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Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
i think they're all retarded
you can actually apply that better to life than "who's got it better than us?"
try that when you get arrested see which one puts things in proper perspective
ijs
Originally posted by defenderDX:
i think they're all retarded
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
i think they're all retarded
Originally posted by kujon11:
any chance you can cover the fade route to torrey smith?
Originally posted by irief:
Gentleman, would it be possible to get a few breakdowns of how the Patriots were able to limit the Steelers from scoring vs where the Niners failed? On paper it seems like the Niners would have a better defense than the Pats. A compare and contrast would be really informative. Thanks in advance.
Originally posted by thl408:It's also important to note, and I failed to do that on the breakdowns, all but the last TD came on 3rd down. So, I think there was the assumption on defense that Pitt was more trying for a first down in that situation, not going for the home run. Because, let's be real, how many teams swing for the fences on 3rd and 2, 3rd and 7 and such???
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Then why keep doing it? Throwing a 6th round rookie against a pro bowler...you should figure out the outcome by the end of the first quarter.
Brown has gone for 150+ yards against some of the best CB's in football. I don't think it matters much who they put on him when they had no pass rush to speak of. When you have an elite QB like Big Ben and an elite WR like Brown, it doesn't matter much who you have in your secondary if you can't force the QB off his spot and make him less comfortable.
Why use man then? I'm not saying you're wrong, what I'm asking is why even flirt with the idea. These guys are on a short week with a tall order. Having the safety's play close against WR's faster than what we have seems more reckless than ballsy.
My guess is that Mangini had a feeling his 4 man pass rush was not going to get it done so he crowded the LoS to try and confuse PIT's pass protection. As jonnydel showed, the 49ers came with a 4 man rush even after all the exotic fronts that showed possible blitz pressure. He was trying to get a free rusher into Ben's face due to confusion in pass pro. PIT had their stuff together.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by sking20854:
Hey jonny or thl, did you notice a big difference in the first half and second half with the Steelers defense?
I have not gotten to the 2nd half. But I'll be sure to check it out. I am assuming this is whether to see if Kap's 2nd half success in the passing game was aided by PIT easing off the gas pedal?
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by irief:
Gentleman, would it be possible to get a few breakdowns of how the Patriots were able to limit the Steelers from scoring vs where the Niners failed? On paper it seems like the Niners would have a better defense than the Pats. A compare and contrast would be really informative. Thanks in advance.
I wouldn't say the Patriots limited the Steelers. They put up 464 yards on the Pats, more than they put on the 49ers (453). Pats didn't give up the chunk plays we did. Pitt moved the ball down the field more methodically. Just didn't convert into points, and their kicker missed 2 FGs.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Niners816:
That's shallow cross again. How it used to be is that backside route is an alert. So, something in coverage or speed of the guy running that route had to catch the QBs eye. Of course I'm assuming they are using a similar progression.
This is from 1994 niner playbook.
Love that you can bring this historical info to the modern day table.
Aside from the shotgun, are you seeing more WCO thus far?
Originally posted by thl408:
Wanted to get your thoughts on the lack of pattern matching in Mangini's coverage scheme. I thought the lack of it in the MIN game was just because he didn't feel the need to do it since Teddy is a young QB and maybe it wasn't required to fool him. With the loss in talent for pass rushing, you mentioned during the offseason, and I agree, that the coverage would have to step up to buy time for the pass rushers to get home. Nothing gets the job done more than good pattern matching.
I know Mangini likes to get fancy pre-snap, then rotate and shift post snap, but the coverage scheme in this PIT game was for the most part simple. Just spot dropping zones or man coverage. This is everything that the previous defense was not. It seems like all that work by the previous coaching staff will be lost if Mangini moves away from pattern matching. I thought for sure it would continue because Mangini comes from Belichick's school of defense. The only players not versed is Acker, who was obviously in team meetings, but not on the field last season. The safeties excel at pattern matching. Brock did fine in 2013. Ward was exposed to it as well.
Originally posted by irief:
Gentleman, would it be possible to get a few breakdowns of how the Patriots were able to limit the Steelers from scoring vs where the Niners failed? On paper it seems like the Niners would have a better defense than the Pats. A compare and contrast would be really informative. Thanks in advance.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by thl408:
Wanted to get your thoughts on the lack of pattern matching in Mangini's coverage scheme. I thought the lack of it in the MIN game was just because he didn't feel the need to do it since Teddy is a young QB and maybe it wasn't required to fool him. With the loss in talent for pass rushing, you mentioned during the offseason, and I agree, that the coverage would have to step up to buy time for the pass rushers to get home. Nothing gets the job done more than good pattern matching.
I know Mangini likes to get fancy pre-snap, then rotate and shift post snap, but the coverage scheme in this PIT game was for the most part simple. Just spot dropping zones or man coverage. This is everything that the previous defense was not. It seems like all that work by the previous coaching staff will be lost if Mangini moves away from pattern matching. I thought for sure it would continue because Mangini comes from Belichick's school of defense. The only players not versed is Acker, who was obviously in team meetings, but not on the field last season. The safeties excel at pattern matching. Brock did fine in 2013. Ward was exposed to it as well.
jonnydel, your thoughts?
