Week 2 Pittsburg Steelers coaches film analysis

I believe somebody said it best in this thread" it's like Chess" we just happen to get outplayed. I have faith in Jim T , Geep and Mangini and this coaching staff to make the correct adjustments and instill them in the players as the season evolves, we will see just how well next game as Arizona has similar capabilities as Pitt. We will however have the 2 main concerns ALL season regardless off scheme,tactics adjustments and that is the weak right side of the Oline and the inability to get pressure bringing 4.

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

3rd down for the steelers after Bruce Miller's TD drop. Can you please explain to me wtf armstead is doing? Clear shot on Ben, doesn't take it. Instead stands there and does the shuffle/raise the roof dance. A gif would be nice.

AA as the left DT on a loop.
No idea why he hesitated to pressure Ben. He should have been chomping at the bit to finally smack Ben. Perhaps he thought is was a screen pass?

Looks like a young inexperienced guy who's thinking too much and not just reacting.

End result of this play is what Mangini probably expected or wanted with the defense he called. Acker in press slowing down Brown a little bit, Reid in position to take away the deep sideline. It just didn't work all game like it did here.

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
3rd down for the steelers after Bruce Miller's TD drop. Can you please explain to me wtf armstead is doing? Clear shot on Ben, doesn't take it. Instead stands there and does the shuffle/raise the roof dance. A gif would be nice.

AA as the left DT on a loop.
No idea why he hesitated to pressure Ben. He should have been chomping at the bit to finally smack Ben. Perhaps he thought is was a screen pass?

Looks like a young inexperienced guy who's thinking too much and not just reacting.

If you look at the stunt, he is the last defender on the right side of the dline. He likely has contain responsibilities. It looks like he focuses contain first then heads up field. Disciplined.

Originally posted by thl408:
This play looks like something straight out of the 2014 playbook. Going too deep for a down and distance that doesn't require it.

2Q 3rd & 7
4 verticals (I think) vs cover1 blitz
When running 4 verticals, the WRs can be asked to curl their route if they feel the defense is playing with 'over the top' positioning where a GO route would be easily defeated. I think this is what is happening here as Boldin curls his route.
Versus Cover 1 blitz.


The pass protection brain farts as Devey and Martin allow a free rusher up the middle (blue).




Not a fan of 4 Verticals in a 3rd & 7 situation, but the pass protection is what really fails here.


Sacked for -17. After the punt. PIT scores on the bomb to DHB on the first play of the possession.

If not for the free rusher Kap probably hits Boldin for the 1st

For what it's worth, Cosell on KNBR saying conceptually our defense was fine. Tape was not as bad as the score. Only play we really got beat conceptually was TD to DHB, when he got a clean release running right past Bethea in coverage. Doesn't think our defense is bad, just got beat by a great offense.

Originally posted by SisterFister:
Is there any chance someone could post a gif or stills of correct technique for press coverage in cover 2 man and cover 6? I saw the up close stills and gif of Acker's poor technique vs Brown. And the poor technique vs Heyward Bey. I would like to see up close how that situation is supposed to be played. Great work guys. Thanks a lot! This is my favorite thread to read every week.

In Cover2 Man (I am assuming you are referencing Acker versus Brown on the first big chunk play), the CB will want to funnel the WR away from the middle of the field because that is where the large seam between the safeties is. This is why Acker aligned with inside shade. To make it hard for Brown to release inside. There is another factor that comes in to play and that's is how far is the WR split, but let's not go into that.

Generally speaking, the CB wants to put the jam/punch right into the chestplate of the WR because that's what is most effective in stalling a WR's momentum and ability to get off the LoS with speed. The WR isn't going to allow this so there's a lot of hand fighting involved. This is why long arms can help a CB play press. If the CB can stay low, it will help him move laterally to stay in front of the WR.

For the Brock play where Bethea got burned for a TD (DHB). Brock isn't necessarily jamming DHB as much as he is being asked to redirect DHB. What Brock needed to do was impede DHB in a way that DHB can't run straight up the field. Simply get in front of DHB and force DHB to go around Brock. In doing so, that would have slowed DHB down before he is passed over to Bethea's responsibility.

Unfortunately, there are no closeups from the TV broadcast, that I know of, that show a CB press/jamming effectively. TV broadcast is only going to show offensive highlights for the most part. I'm not about to go watch SEA games hoping they show Sherman close up playing press grab and run.

Originally posted by SofaKing:
For what it's worth, Cosell on KNBR saying conceptually our defense was fine. Tape was not as bad as the score. Only play we really got beat conceptually was TD to DHB, when he got a clean release running right past Bethea in coverage. Doesn't think our defense is bad, just got beat by a great offense.

lack of pass rush also made our defensive secondary look poor too

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by thl408:
This play looks like something straight out of the 2014 playbook. Going too deep for a down and distance that doesn't require it.

2Q 3rd & 7
4 verticals (I think) vs cover1 blitz
When running 4 verticals, the WRs can be asked to curl their route if they feel the defense is playing with 'over the top' positioning where a GO route would be easily defeated. I think this is what is happening here as Boldin curls his route.
Versus Cover 1 blitz.


The pass protection brain farts as Devey and Martin allow a free rusher up the middle (blue).




Not a fan of 4 Verticals in a 3rd & 7 situation, but the pass protection is what really fails here.


Sacked for -17. After the punt. PIT scores on the bomb to DHB on the first play of the possession.

If not for the free rusher Kap probably hits Boldin for the 1st

Is it illegal to just duct tape Devey to Martin or tie them together and make a wall?

Originally posted by Buckethead:
Is it illegal to just duct tape Devey to Martin or tie them together and make a wall?

good lord both of them focused on a rusher already being blocked while one strolls right past them. What morons.

Originally posted by Nuns:
If you look at the stunt, he is the last defender on the right side of the dline. He likely has contain responsibilities. It looks like he focuses contain first then heads up field. Disciplined.

he saw the running back take off. What's there to contain? You come around that corner screaming and bury the burger. I'm sure tomsula is telling him that very thing right now!

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Here's another play where Martin went full on potato....

It's 3rd and 17 3rd QTR.


We're going to try and get VD deep on a deep "smash" concept. It's not too dissimilar to what Pitt ran on us on the previous play I showed. Mixed with a "levels" concept. We're trying to get VD over the corner on the short side of the field.


The underneath defender locks on to Davis and the corner onto T. Smith. I've highlighted the area we're trying to hit.


You see the corner jump T. Smith's route. With the safety having to play mid because of the coming underneath routes, we have the possibility to take a shot to Davis - might work, might not. But, I like the concept.


Pitt comes with a strong side blitz and pulls a stunt up the middle.


Martin and Boone take the 1 Tech and Devey take #95. I think Martin was supposed to stay middle and let Boone take the DT alone.


Because Martin helped on the DT and a wide rush by #95, you see a gaping hole open up for the end looping around. Staley is trying to push his man upfield, but CK doesn't have anywhere to step up.


CK is effed...the next event will be censored for those who are squeamish to seeing CK sacked...


After the play, Staley had just motioned at Martin, then both Boone and Devey point him out. Martin was obviously wrong about his protection on this play....when you have 3 members of the O-line pointing at you after a sack....yeah....
Full....on...Potato...

jonnydel, Martin screwed up the snap count on this play. It was supposed to be "on two" and Martin snapped it "on one". I cut this play up in the Good,Bad,Ugly thread.
Reposting:
Notice Staley, Boone, and Boldin still in their pre-snap stance. Kap already has the ball.


Very slow get off from Staley.


Staley says it's on 2.


Boone says it's on 2. Pears is pointing at Martin. You showed this in your pics.


Martin with the derp. This isn't some inexperienced mistake. Players have done snapcount since peewee football. This is lack of focus.

Originally posted by Nuns:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
3rd down for the steelers after Bruce Miller's TD drop. Can you please explain to me wtf armstead is doing? Clear shot on Ben, doesn't take it. Instead stands there and does the shuffle/raise the roof dance. A gif would be nice.

AA as the left DT on a loop.
No idea why he hesitated to pressure Ben. He should have been chomping at the bit to finally smack Ben. Perhaps he thought is was a screen pass?

Looks like a young inexperienced guy who's thinking too much and not just reacting.

If you look at the stunt, he is the last defender on the right side of the dline. He likely has contain responsibilities. It looks like he focuses contain first then heads up field. Disciplined.

think he's supposed to shoot the gap in between the T and G not go all the way around the end lol

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by Nuns:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
3rd down for the steelers after Bruce Miller's TD drop. Can you please explain to me wtf armstead is doing? Clear shot on Ben, doesn't take it. Instead stands there and does the shuffle/raise the roof dance. A gif would be nice.

AA as the left DT on a loop.
No idea why he hesitated to pressure Ben. He should have been chomping at the bit to finally smack Ben. Perhaps he thought is was a screen pass?

Looks like a young inexperienced guy who's thinking too much and not just reacting.

If you look at the stunt, he is the last defender on the right side of the dline. He likely has contain responsibilities. It looks like he focuses contain first then heads up field. Disciplined.

think he's supposed to shoot the gap in between the T and G not go all the way around the end lol

It looks like a stunt with Carradine to me. Would have gotten the safety if he shoots that gap. Contain would make sense if it was Russel Wilson, but Big ben isnt running very far. Even i f that was his assignment, why did he stop to play patty cake real quick?

Maybe some of our experts can help us out here

^^^^ this O line fail just makes me mad. the freaking snap count???!!!

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by Nuns:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
3rd down for the steelers after Bruce Miller's TD drop. Can you please explain to me wtf armstead is doing? Clear shot on Ben, doesn't take it. Instead stands there and does the shuffle/raise the roof dance. A gif would be nice.

AA as the left DT on a loop.
No idea why he hesitated to pressure Ben. He should have been chomping at the bit to finally smack Ben. Perhaps he thought is was a screen pass?

Looks like a young inexperienced guy who's thinking too much and not just reacting.

If you look at the stunt, he is the last defender on the right side of the dline. He likely has contain responsibilities. It looks like he focuses contain first then heads up field. Disciplined.

think he's supposed to shoot the gap in between the T and G not go all the way around the end lol

It looks like a stunt with Carradine to me. Would have gotten the safety if he shoots that gap. Contain would make sense if it was Russel Wilson, but Big ben isnt running very far.

It's a line stunt. No doubt about it. Notice how the two rushers on the right side of the DLine crash inwards. It's to create space for AA to loop around.