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Originally posted by thl408:
This is the dropped pass by Boldin that could have extended the drive. Crap result, but I wanted to highlight it as we try to understand Geep's passing offense. There were so many flood concepts in the MIN game that I was sure there was more. I'll try to highlight some passing plays as we take a sneak peak into the 49er playbook.

The progression is shown (white numbers). This type of progression is easy on the QB's eyes. Notice how all the routes break in the same direction. Kap simply scans from right to left with the routes entering his line of sight.
Versus Cover1 blitz


Kap looks to his first read, VD. VD is covered. With the defender on VD playing outside leverage and being able to attack downhill, Kap red lights VD and will move to his next read.


Boldin enters Kap's line of sight.


I like the order of progression and how it works to help the QB. Before anyone says anything like, "oh they dumbed down the progression for Kap", I'll post a play from the SB where Brady has the same type of progression. Good designs aren't effective and complex, good designs are effective and simple

Notice Kap's head as he moves from VD to Boldin. Dropped pass.
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I don't think the guys that would say they "dumb down the playbook" frequent this particular thread.
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Perfect illustration on poor press technique and an even better illustration on how to defeat press. This is where Jerry Rice made a living; defeating press within the first three steps. Acker is defeated on the second move here. Press is an art and while size and strength (Johnson) can help a lot, it's really the technique that is critical here...right at the LOS.

As much as I cringe watching this, now there is GREAT film for all of our CB's to learn from. I can't wait to see if they've learned from this.

physical, JAMMING press coverage at it's finest.

Eek. As a CB, if you're reaching with only one hand, you're dead unless you have epic recovery speed and lots of help over the top.
Originally posted by thl408:
This is the dropped pass by Boldin that could have extended the drive. Crap result, but I wanted to highlight it as we try to understand Geep's passing offense. There were so many flood concepts in the MIN game that I was sure there was more. I'll try to highlight some passing plays as we take a sneak peak into the 49er playbook.

The progression is shown (white numbers). This type of progression is easy on the QB's eyes. Notice how all the routes break in the same direction. Kap simply scans from right to left with the routes entering his line of sight.
Versus Cover1 blitz


Kap looks to his first read, VD. VD is covered. With the defender on VD playing outside leverage and being able to attack downhill, Kap red lights VD and will move to his next read.


Boldin enters Kap's line of sight.


I like the order of progression and how it works to help the QB. Before anyone says anything like, "oh they dumbed down the progression for Kap", I'll post a play from the SB where Brady has the same type of progression. Good designs aren't effective and complex, good designs are effective and simple.


Notice Kap's head as he moves from VD to Boldin. Dropped pass.

I don't think his footwork looks that great here. he delivered a great ball but his front foot should be more out in front of him as he throws should it not? (being nit-picky, but just wanted your opinion)
Originally posted by captveg:
I'd like to see a breakdown of the 2-pt conversion after the Torrey TD as it's the only short yardage goal line success they had in the game. Would be an interesting comparison to the other RZ plays. (No rush on breaking this play down, though).

The play-calling was mostly the problem, and then secondly the execution. Completely unimaginative and the o-line got beat on pretty much every single play. Kap has the mobility and athletic ability to put the ball in the end zone with his feet, yet I don't think I saw a single play call where the defense was forced to respect that as a possibility.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Eek. As a CB, if you're reaching with only one hand, you're dead unless you have epic recovery speed and lots of help over the top.

yes but it's important our corners employ "physical", "jamming" press-man coverage. it's what you wanted lmfaooo
Originally posted by defenderDX:
I don't think his footwork looks that great here. he delivered a great ball but his front foot should be more out in front of him as he throws should it not? (being nit-picky, but just wanted your opinion)

I think maybe no.94 rushed him a bit. I do like how his hips are on a swivel. He eerily looks a little like Brady here, same lanky tall frame hopping thru their progressions. Wishful thinking I know.
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by thl408:
This is the dropped pass by Boldin that could have extended the drive. Crap result, but I wanted to highlight it as we try to understand Geep's passing offense. There were so many flood concepts in the MIN game that I was sure there was more. I'll try to highlight some passing plays as we take a sneak peak into the 49er playbook.

The progression is shown (white numbers). This type of progression is easy on the QB's eyes. Notice how all the routes break in the same direction. Kap simply scans from right to left with the routes entering his line of sight.
Versus Cover1 blitz


Kap looks to his first read, VD. VD is covered. With the defender on VD playing outside leverage and being able to attack downhill, Kap red lights VD and will move to his next read.


Boldin enters Kap's line of sight.


I like the order of progression and how it works to help the QB. Before anyone says anything like, "oh they dumbed down the progression for Kap", I'll post a play from the SB where Brady has the same type of progression. Good designs aren't effective and complex, good designs are effective and simple

Notice Kap's head as he moves from VD to Boldin. Dropped pass.
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I don't think the guys that would say they "dumb down the playbook" frequent this particular thread.
great example of incorporating a trail-type concept onto a "levels" concept.
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Boldin's been dropping passes left and right now it seems like forever. What the hell?
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Eek. As a CB, if you're reaching with only one hand, you're dead unless you have epic recovery speed and lots of help over the top.

yes but it's important our corners employ "physical", "jamming" press-man coverage. it's what you wanted lmfaooo

Not sure where you are going with this. There are different types of press sets...here is a case where you WANT to jam and throw off the WR right at the LOS. But if you have poor technique like Acker here, you're screwed. Like we were here.

In this game, as a DC, I'd ensure all week Brock, Acker, Johnson and Ward were using proper technique within jam press OR change the scheme and play off coverage to respect their speed.
[ Edited by NCommand on Sep 22, 2015 at 1:50 PM ]
Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
Originally posted by captveg:
I'd like to see a breakdown of the 2-pt conversion after the Torrey TD as it's the only short yardage goal line success they had in the game. Would be an interesting comparison to the other RZ plays. (No rush on breaking this play down, though).

The play-calling was mostly the problem, and then secondly the execution. Completely unimaginative and the o-line got beat on pretty much every single play. Kap has the mobility and athletic ability to put the ball in the end zone with his feet, yet I don't think I saw a single play call where the defense was forced to respect that as a possibility.

The only unimaginative RZ trip IMO was the 2nd one (that ended in the incomplete pass to Miller). Execution was lacking on all four, even the one that resulted in Boldin's TD.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
great example of incorporating a trail-type concept onto a "levels" concept.

Agreed....I really like the concept. I also like how in the formation Patton is split out way wide, giving the primary out to VD plenty of room.
[ Edited by Niners816 on Sep 22, 2015 at 1:50 PM ]
Originally posted by Antix:
Boldin's been dropping passes left and right now it seems like forever. What the hell?

I noticed he had his middle and ring fingers taped on one hand and seemed to be favoring them in a couple of shots. I wonder if that maybe played a role in his drops.
Here's one of those "package" plays that Pitt used that looked like a perfectly called screen pass.


Pitt once again goes no-huddle. We show a press alignment before the snap and Reid moves down very late in the set(the slot receiver has already shifted down into the formation, then is on his way back out). The slot receiver shifts around, giving Ben a look at man-coverage.


At the snap, everyone but the LT tackle block down, and a G pulls - they're showing a run to the right. Acker immediately turns and bails out(respecting Brown's speed since he's 1-1 with inside help.


Ben pulls the ball up(that's how we know it's a package play, not a screen pass) he doesn't fake to the RB, he just takes the snap and fires out to Brown. We've seen Kap do this over the years too, in fact, we had one of these in the game to Davis, but CK and Davis weren't on the same page, still completed a pass, but it was broken.


The center red the LB's and when they didn't go play side, he turned and ran out to the screen. Now you have the LT on a block out on Acker and a center on his way out too.


Brown cuts it back inside his man and has 2 blockers.


It's amazing Brown didn't score on this play, gains 17 yards.

I do have to give it to Haley, this is a really well designed play. The key is the center reading the LB's, usually it's the other way around. Great recognition by Ben just before the snap and caught us with our pants down.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Eek. As a CB, if you're reaching with only one hand, you're dead unless you have epic recovery speed and lots of help over the top.

yes but it's important our corners employ "physical", "jamming" press-man coverage. it's what you wanted lmfaooo

Not sure where you are going with this. There are different types of press sets...here is a case where you WANT to jam and throw off the WR right at the LOS. But if you have poor technique like Acker here, you're screwed. Like we were here.

In this game, as a DC, I'd ensure all week Brock, Acker, Johnson and Ward were using proper technique within jam press OR change the scheme and play off coverage to respect their speed.

it's what you were yelling for ever since we got torched in the Denver game last year. and welp you got it lol
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by Antix:
Boldin's been dropping passes left and right now it seems like forever. What the hell?

I noticed he had his middle and ring fingers taped on one hand and seemed to be favoring them in a couple of shots. I wonder if that maybe played a role in his drops.

Agreed. Looked like he was in a lot of pain at the end there...shaking his hand badly in pain. Not sure what's up.
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