Week 3 Arizona Cardinals coaches film analysis

It's been shown that Kap's first pick is a throw he has easily made before. It's been shown that his mechanics were off on this one.

I'm asking you to bear with me because you can talk about the mechanics of what went wrong, but no one has been able to explain the incredibly curious case of Kap's inconsistency. Psychologists have noted that the fight-or-flight response creates tunnel vision-a measurable decrease in peripheral vision. I believe Kap's problem is not "IQ" but emotional. It seems that he doesn't know what to do with feelings of anxiety. He denies that they exist and covers them up with bravado instead of recognizing that anxiety is normal, all manly men have it, and it must be dealt with. instead, he denies it, and is often really bad in the beginnings of games when anxiety is at its highest. Remember the Super Bowl. Remember the first play of the Raider game, another simple throw that he could do in his sleep.

I know that people in this thread rightfully don't want to talk about emotion. But I wonder if fundamentally people respond to Kap the way I do. I feel his anxiety on every play. He doesn't seem to realize it's there.

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Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by JamesGatz83:


I don't know enough about their protections to make definitive statements, and I've never coached beyond the HS level, but Martin chasing the slanting nose like that goes against every basic pass protection fundamental I know. This is not a complicated stunt and it made Martin and Devey look absolutely helpless.

I'd love to understand more about pass protection schemes. What should Martin have done here? Push the nose to the side, then disengage and take one of the A gap blitzers? The DL lined up over Devey that loops around does a good job faking the rush, then looping. Devey is dead in the water and can't give chase.

Basic line blocking goes inside out.
But on the line you identify players and stunts and blitzes.
Fix can be as simple as trust and familiarity.

I can't pretend to say I know more. As my playing was mostly outside at TE and some T.

So to my knowledge, fundamentally, Martin should of passed the DT to Devey and stayed and picked up the DE while Devey passed the DE to Martin and picked up the DT. Leaving Hyde the remaining blitzer

Yep, there are variables and adjustments, just like any other aspect of the game, but solidg summed it up pretty well.

Not knowing anything about what protection was called, Martin should've stayed home and passed the slanting NT to Devey and picked up the DE on the loop. There is actually only one A-gap blitzer (the other guy rushing the A-gap is the DE on a twist stunt) and he should've been picked up by Hyde.

It's very rare for interior OLs to chase defenders in pass protection as it leaves you vulnerable to stunts, games and blitzes. Pass protection requires patience, trust, and experience--things these two are sorely lacking.

Based on Devey's step, it looks likely that some kind of slide protection was called on the right side, which played right into the hands of the blitz. But that's what happens when you start a 21-year-old at center.

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by JDMathews49ers:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
That's the thing I've seen with Kaep. At this stage, he knows enough to know where to go with the ball, but isn't confident enough to trust it. If that makes any sense...He has to sometimes see it and confirmed, to throw the ball.

I understand the hesitation though, inside your own 20, better make sure before making that throw. Sometimes a good CB can smell it out like the Cards did. 20/20 said he should have thrown it early, but that's good vet confidence in the offense, himself, and his receivers for that.

Yup, I've seen the same tendency from him as well.

Throwing on time, precise, with proper footwork is something he has to learn to do. There's no getting around it. That's a pretty routine play, not a bad play call. The throw was there to be made, he was late, pick 6. It can crumble that easily when the timing is off.

THL mention that it's not the best route for VD. In the post additional post, THL shows Kap making the throw and getting good yardage to a WR. If it's out early it's a catch, but you see he is late. I wonder if that's because it's an out route to VD instead of the WR?

No, VD has tremendous straight line speed. Which is his greatest strength. While the out pattern isn't his bread and butter, he ran a crisp route. He was open. Just like Boldins curl, as soon as that cut foot is planted, the ball should be thrown. It's a timing route. Every WR/TE/RB/FB know that as soon as you plant that cut foot you turn and look for the ball because it should already be on the way.

Agreed. I have no problem with that route at all.

It's been beaten to death, but we know Kap is not a great anticipation passer and likely never will be. That said, I do still think we can win with him; he's proven that. After all, there are only so many great rhythm passers in the game anyway: Brady, Rodgers, Manning, Brees. Having one of those guys is nice, but it's not required to win a Super Bowl.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by JamesGatz83:


I don't know enough about their protections to make definitive statements, and I've never coached beyond the HS level, but Martin chasing the slanting nose like that goes against every basic pass protection fundamental I know. This is not a complicated stunt and it made Martin and Devey look absolutely helpless.

I'd love to understand more about pass protection schemes. What should Martin have done here? Push the nose to the side, then disengage and take one of the A gap blitzers? The DL lined up over Devey that loops around does a good job faking the rush, then looping. Devey is dead in the water and can't give chase.

Wouldn't the center and the RG stay in their lanes and transfer guys from one to the other? This way Martin isn't shoving his guy right into Devey as the 2nd guy in the stunt hooks through? Hard to tell because from the image above both Devey and Martin get caught flat footed.

The more I see the footage the more I begin to thinking the scheme is causing major issues. On defense, there is simply no way that many guys can look as foolish as they have without it being scheme related. What happened to Eric Reid and Antoine Bethea? They were good players for years and suddenly they both go sour? Same for Brock, same for Bowman. This has to be a coaching problem. Of course, then you consider the defense lost the following players this off-season: Ray MacDonald, Justin Smith, Aldon Smith, Chris Boreland and Patrick Willis. I'm not sure many teams could recover from that in just one off-season.

I guess it's frustrating because I knew they weren't going to be good, but right now it seems this version of the 49ers want to break the record from futility.

Originally posted by thl408:
Here's the second pick 6.


Late throw, bad throwing position which leads to the low velocity.

It almost looks like he did the initial pump fake here because the nose tackle took away his throwing lane... thl408?

Question for the film guys.

How many times did Kap changed the play at the line? Many audibles if any?

What did he look like pre snap?

Originally posted by thl408:
Going back a bit. Here is the first pick6.

This is a pick a side play that puts in beaters to the two coverages Kap sees the most.
Left side: Cover3 beater. If this was cover3, the orange drag route pulls the underneath defenders towards the middle of the field to get a throwing lane for the red Curl. The red Curl (Torrey) pushes the deep 1/3 back, then curls.
Right side: Cover1 beater (Fade/Out concept). The 49ers have executed this combination many times versus ARI. If I know it, ARI knows it. To come out of the gate, on the first '3rd and pass it' situation and call this concept is a bit arrogant. Come on Geep, you don't think ARi studies and knows what has worked against them?
versus Cover 1 blitz


Kap takes the snap and properly looks to his right towards the fade/out. In this pic, he has completed his dropback, but for whatever reason, doesn't want to pull the trigger. When Kap sees the CB's back turned to the play (Patton's CB), that should tell Kap that the area along the sideline is open for targeting.


Kap takes a slight shuffle step, then decides to throw, by then it's too late. With VD running an Out pattern, not his specialty because any route consisting of a 90 degree cut is not VD's specialty, the DB breaks on the route.


To the endzone camera to see why the throw had little velocity. Triple A gap blitz. The NT slants to Martin's right shoulder to create space. Two defenders (red, yellow) fill the space.


This is Kap with his dropback completed. His footwork is good and he is in a throwing position. He's looking right at VD. Hyde is facing a 2v1. If Kap starts his throwing motion now, he should release the ball in time. At this moment in time, the DB over the top of VD is still in his backpeddle (not shown).


Instead, Kap takes a slight shuffle step to get his front foot out of position. He moves that front foot (left) towards the middle of the field, away from where VD is. A QB wants to point his toes towards where he throws. This shuffle step is counter productive.


Notice the hop step that gets his left foot out of position.


Easy pickings. If Kap throws this as soon as his drop back is completed, the pass is thrown with anticipation (before VD breaks), and with velocity, because Kap can step into his throw.

footwork footwork footwork

Kap has been bad with it so far on the year

What I don't like is how Kap doesn't ever throw to a spot on the field where a receiver should be.

He needs to read that LB coming on a blitz and know he has Boldin on the shallow cross.

Originally posted by SoCold:
What I don't like is how Kap doesn't ever throw to a spot on the field where a receiver should be.

He needs to read that LB coming on a blitz and know he has Boldin on the shallow cross.

yup, or anticipate VD on that out pattern and throw it before his break. This will slow down the pressure also because he'll get rid of the ball so quickly. The anticipation throws separate the levels of QBs.

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
footwork footwork footwork

Kap has been bad with it so far on the year

the big question was how would he do with Warner's teaching once the bullets started flying?


I think we might know now

I don't know if you can teach poise. He has none of it.

Cam Inman ‏@CamInman 54m54 minutes ago
Kaepernick said after Monday film review of his Arizona miscues, he moved onto Packers. Says should have thrown elsewhere, changed plays



Weren't the calls correct? Just that he was late?

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
footwork footwork footwork

Kap has been bad with it so far on the year

the big question was how would he do with Warner's teaching once the bullets started flying?


I think we might know now

His footwork is one reason why we can't throw quick screen passes.

Originally posted by Luckycharms:

Originally posted by thl408:
Okay cool. I agree if Lewis was with LeBeau then he has been in a pattern match scheme. I am about to email Matt Barrows to ask him to ask Mangini why he isn't pattern matching.

I messaged him on istagram earlier today to do the same thing, maybe if some of us do it, the question will get asked and we can get an answer

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