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Originally posted by braap49er:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
good stuff from the Better Rivals co-host David.
This has to be the dumbest decision making throw I've seen. It's embarrasing... How can we not look at the two open receivers. The possibilities if we had a QB who could see just a little of the field.
Originally posted by SoCold:I count about 5.5 sec before he goes YOLO Bolding Pick. Dudes getting dumber by the game.
Originally posted by teylo31:Hard to say who is at fault. But when Kap can take a 5 step drop, then 3 hitches, then get sacked, that's on the QB to get rid of the ball. You may be right with your take. I see what you mean by having Boone take the 1 tech so Martin can help with the right side of the OL. But remember that on the previous play, Staley got worked and gave up a sack.
Originally posted by thl408:
On the next play.
It looks like the 49ers were anticipating more man coverage. The red drag route (Celek) is designed to remove a defender from the middle of the field for Boldin's slant to work. Drag routes are normally used against man coverage as well. Then Torrey is running another route that requires him to stem inside before breaking back to the outside.
As Kap is dropping back, he is looking to Boldin. Once he hits the top of his dropback, he has red lighted Boldin. This is what he is seeing - two defenders bracketing Boldin.
Kap has moved to his next progression towards his left. I can't tell who he's looking at. Either Celek or Torrey.
At this point, Kap can either make a tight window throw before Torrey breaks back to the outside, or check it down to Hyde for a minimal gain.
Kap looks to scramble. Good bait set by GB to present a scrambling lane for Kap only to fill it with a looping DE.
Sacked for -7
Looking at this play i wonder who is at fault here. Our C to RT is our weakest part of the line yet staley and boone are double teaming 1 RDE while martin is singled up on the RDT. The RDT lined up in the gap and Boone could have picked him up leaving martin to help on the right side and probabably would have negated that looping DE
Edit: after rewatching staley and boone did a piss poor job for a double team. I know a lot of focus has been on the right side but for the name and talent that boone and staley carry that left side should be a bulldozer/wall and its not. Wonder if its the scheme or they dropping off as well
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by mayo49:
I just don't think Kap has that key talent that great Qb's have, that is, seeing the field and reacting quickly to what he's seeing. He's just a tick off and that's where the INT's come.
Joe Montana threw an INT every 38.8 pass attempts for his career.
Colin Kaepernick throws an INT every 47.4 pass attempts for his career.
Kap being a "pick machine" is such a misnomer. Hes been pretty darn careful with the football in his young career.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Well, I try an be careful about such a polarizing issue. I also have to be careful about myself, about not letting my own frustration over the team o love losing, that I let emotion cloud the view. Further, I don't want a thread about the team performance to get derailed into another kaep thread. Now, considering the past 2 weeks, it's hard for it not to turn into that.
All that to say, where I'm getting at with him, is that the time for patience and, "give him a chance to learn it" is running out, for me. He's been in the league 5 years and is 27. Are we supposed to wait til he's 30 and starts losing the speed that makes him special to get start putting it together?
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:It's the exact same play, from the exact same formation, as earlier in the game (2nd quarter) that the 49ers were able to complete for 13 yards. Broken down here:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Not sure where the blame goes on this play, if it's Pears, McDonald or Kaep - you can chime in on what you think... This is one of the most crucial plays of the game. 4th down in the RZ, less than 5 minutes go.
Both Pears and Boone stand up, right before this, and turn to say something or point something out to Kaepernick. After that, he moves McD to the othere side of the line.
One of 3 things happened here. Either McD didn't realize the call was for him to stay in to block now that he was moved over in the formation, or Kaep never made the, "stay in to block" call for him, or Pears was wrong and only thought McD was staying in to block.
Because McD releases straight up the field, Pears comes down on 76 and Peppers is freely released.
From here, I have to think it was McD, cause Pears helps and then moves to a blitzing Matthews - I'd only assume that's why they'd move him over, so that they'd have the blocking power to pick up Matthews(who blitzed a lot in this game). But, that left peppers untouched.
Huge 4th down sack....I guess, unless we're in the meeting room, we won't know who it was on. But someone effed up, bigtime!
Can you post a screenshot of the rest of the field during the play (not from behind the goal posts)? Kap is looking to his right as if he expects someone over there (McDonald or someone off screen) to be the target.
Originally posted by thl408:It's the exact same play, from the exact same formation, as earlier in the game (2nd quarter) that the 49ers were able to complete for 13 yards. Broken down here:
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/183436-week-green-bay-packers-coaching-film-analysis-thread/page2/#post29
It would have worked too if it wasn't for those meddling pass rushers.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:I already know which play you are talking about. It was a TD, but Miller had to tippy toe to get both feet in.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Well, I try an be careful about such a polarizing issue. I also have to be careful about myself, about not letting my own frustration over the team o love losing, that I let emotion cloud the view. Further, I don't want a thread about the team performance to get derailed into another kaep thread. Now, considering the past 2 weeks, it's hard for it not to turn into that.
All that to say, where I'm getting at with him, is that the time for patience and, "give him a chance to learn it" is running out, for me. He's been in the league 5 years and is 27. Are we supposed to wait til he's 30 and starts losing the speed that makes him special to get start putting it together?
I think this is very reasonable, based on analysis. Sure, the oline is making it impossible for Kap to get the long looks that he seems to need. But you know, having a capable line would just make it more obvious that he needs a lot of time to process what he sees. I think that's the issue.
You know, I remember a game last year where we were on the 20 or so, he rolls right, and sees a rb in the flat completely wide open. 7 yards away from the goal line. And, it took him over a second to get him the ball. I remember thinking man, this dude just can't make a decision. I wish I had the gif. But that really summed it up for me in a nutshell. Don't know how to beat that. It's not about technical form. Not at all.
Originally posted by thl408:
It's the exact same play, from the exact same formation, as earlier in the game (2nd quarter) that the 49ers were able to complete for 13 yards. Broken down here:
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/183436-week-green-bay-packers-coaching-film-analysis-thread/page2/#post29
It would have worked too if it wasn't for those meddling pass rushers.
Originally posted by thl408:Just have to make a not about the footwork, it's terrible here. He should have 3 long steps, and 2 short, balance steps. He never takes those balance steps, with his last balance step pushing him forward in the pocket. With the blitz, he should hot this to a 3 step drop. but doesn't, he takes 5 lazy steps. Not how you want your QB's footwork to look....
Going back to a key drive early in the game, that had this play:
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/183436-week-green-bay-packers-coaching-film-analysis-thread/page2/#post29
Sacked for -10.
Originally posted by HydeURwife:
Who is this guy and what did he do with our Kaep?
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Thanks. Hard to draw any conclusions from that. I was thinking that, if McDonald was alone on that side of the field and Kap was looking over there as if to pass, it would be clear that those two were on the same page (placing culpability for the sack on Pears). With another receiving option on the right side, there's no telling what went wrong / who was confused (like Jonny said).
