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So many missed plays by Kaep, no wonder the receivers are getting pissed, they are getting open its just Kaep is refusing to pull the trigger. Dudes confidence is gone. This was a winnable game but Kaep cant play scared, he has to pull the trigger
Originally posted by defenderDX:
good stuff from the Better Rivals co-host David.





This has to be the dumbest decision making throw I've seen. It's embarrasing... How can we not look at the two open receivers. The possibilities if we had a QB who could see just a little of the field.
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On the next play.

It looks like the 49ers were anticipating more man coverage. The red drag route (Celek) is designed to remove a defender from the middle of the field for Boldin's slant to work. Drag routes are normally used against man coverage as well. Then Torrey is running another route that requires him to stem inside before breaking back to the outside.


As Kap is dropping back, he is looking to Boldin. Once he hits the top of his dropback, he has red lighted Boldin. This is what he is seeing - two defenders bracketing Boldin.


Kap has moved to his next progression towards his left. I can't tell who he's looking at. Either Celek or Torrey.


At this point, Kap can either make a tight window throw before Torrey breaks back to the outside, or check it down to Hyde for a minimal gain.


Kap looks to scramble. Good bait set by GB to present a scrambling lane for Kap only to fill it with a looping DE.


Sacked for -7


This is an unusual play. It's like a Texas combined with a curl-flat. Boldin curl gets pushed inside and you almost have too many guys over the middle. Maybe something happen in regards to that and it threw kap off.

Looking at the gif again, I wonder if Boldin was to run a whip route and got knocked off. That could have provided some horizontal stretch.
[ Edited by Niners816 on Oct 6, 2015 at 11:15 PM ]
Originally posted by thl408:
On the next play.

It looks like the 49ers were anticipating more man coverage. The red drag route (Celek) is designed to remove a defender from the middle of the field for Boldin's slant to work. Drag routes are normally used against man coverage as well. Then Torrey is running another route that requires him to stem inside before breaking back to the outside.


As Kap is dropping back, he is looking to Boldin. Once he hits the top of his dropback, he has red lighted Boldin. This is what he is seeing - two defenders bracketing Boldin.


Kap has moved to his next progression towards his left. I can't tell who he's looking at. Either Celek or Torrey.


At this point, Kap can either make a tight window throw before Torrey breaks back to the outside, or check it down to Hyde for a minimal gain.


Kap looks to scramble. Good bait set by GB to present a scrambling lane for Kap only to fill it with a looping DE.


Sacked for -7

Looking at this play i wonder who is at fault here. Our C to RT is our weakest part of the line yet staley and boone are double teaming 1 RDE while martin is singled up on the RDT. The RDT lined up in the gap and Boone could have picked him up leaving martin to help on the right side and probabably would have negated that looping DE

Edit: after rewatching staley and boone did a piss poor job for a double team. I know a lot of focus has been on the right side but for the name and talent that boone and staley carry that left side should be a bulldozer/wall and its not. Wonder if its the scheme or they dropping off as well
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After a FG to make it 7-3. The ensuing GB drive. After an offensive holding call, GB is facing a 2nd & 17.

Slant-Flat concept vs Cover 3
Purple are the underneath zones. The key players to watch are Bow and Reid.


Reid goes to the flat to cover the RB flat route out of the backfield. This is fine. Bow takes too shallow and wide a drop (red line).


Bow should be where the blue cross is, maybe not as wide - but similar to Wilhoite's depth (other Hook defender) on the other side of the field. Because Bow is so shallow and wide, there is a nice passing lane to the slant.


+36 yards after the RAC due to a bad angle by Acker on the attempted tackle. The 49ers could have gotten the ball back, but they allow GB to convert a 2nd & 17.
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Same drive. Facing a 3rd and 10 with 12 seconds left in the first half, the 49ers can force a FG to keep the score a 1 possession game.

It's either Cover2 Man or Cover 2 Zone with Acker (backside CB in man coverage).
Acker is aligned in press with outside shade.


Jones tries to win an outside release. Due to Acker's presnap positioning (outside shade), Acker is going to make it hard for Jones.


Jones goes for the swim move, but Acker is completely in front of Jones.


Jones has to run parallel to the LoS and that's a win for Acker. Rodger's is looking backside to Jones as his first read.


Acker has defeated Jones's fade route. Brook's has gotten around the corner on the RT.


The RT leans too far forward and Brooks rips past him for the sack.


49ers hold GB to a FG.
Originally posted by teylo31:
Looking at this play i wonder who is at fault here. Our C to RT is our weakest part of the line yet staley and boone are double teaming 1 RDE while martin is singled up on the RDT. The RDT lined up in the gap and Boone could have picked him up leaving martin to help on the right side and probabably would have negated that looping DE

Edit: after rewatching staley and boone did a piss poor job for a double team. I know a lot of focus has been on the right side but for the name and talent that boone and staley carry that left side should be a bulldozer/wall and its not. Wonder if its the scheme or they dropping off as well

It's Kaepernicks fault, if he doesn't try to run then that sack doesn't happen
Originally posted by thl408:
On the next play.





Kap has moved to his next progression towards his left. I can't tell who he's looking at. Either Celek or Torrey.


At this point, Kap can either make a tight window throw before Torrey breaks back to the outside, or check it down to Hyde for a minimal gain.


Looks to me like Boldin is getting himself open between the backer and the safety. But even if Kaep don't like it or can't see it, the next most logical step would be a quick check down to Hyde. It's so tight around the goal line, I don't think he could have come off the middle, go to his left and make a tight window throw to Torrey

That's 2 consecutive plays that was designed for Kaep to simply look down the middle, have 2 guys available, to make a quick decision. At the very worst it would have gotten positive yards had he thrown the ball.

This is maddening the more I look at it.

I initially thought he could've have look to Torrey for the 1on1. The Packers gave him a lot of room to the corner. And it looked like Torrey was held by the CB as he tried to break to the outside.

That was a nice pocket given to Kaep by the oline. Had he stayed in it, even with the DE looping inside , Kaep could have gotten the ball to Torrey in the corner.
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Oct 7, 2015 at 1:02 AM ]
Originally posted by mayo49:
I just don't think Kap has that key talent that great Qb's have, that is, seeing the field and reacting quickly to what he's seeing. He's just a tick off and that's where the INT's come.



Joe Montana threw an INT every 38.8 pass attempts for his career.

Colin Kaepernick throws an INT every 47.4 pass attempts for his career.

Kap being a "pick machine" is such a misnomer. Hes been pretty darn careful with the football in his young career.
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Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by mayo49:
I just don't think Kap has that key talent that great Qb's have, that is, seeing the field and reacting quickly to what he's seeing. He's just a tick off and that's where the INT's come.



Joe Montana threw an INT every 38.8 pass attempts for his career.

Colin Kaepernick throws an INT every 47.4 pass attempts for his career.

Kap being a "pick machine" is such a misnomer. Hes been pretty darn careful with the football in his young career.

Where in mayos post did he call Kaep a pick machine?
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by mayo49:
I just don't think Kap has that key talent that great Qb's have, that is, seeing the field and reacting quickly to what he's seeing. He's just a tick off and that's where the INT's come.



Joe Montana threw an INT every 38.8 pass attempts for his career.

Colin Kaepernick throws an INT every 47.4 pass attempts for his career.

Kap being a "pick machine" is such a misnomer. Hes been pretty darn careful with the football in his young career.

Where in mayos post did he call Kaep a pick machine?

mayo didnt, and I never said he did. I was referencing the fan tendency to suggest he was. People have been calling him Kaeperpick for the last 2+ years, and the numbers dont even back it up.
Originally posted by thl408:



There are pretty much 3 receivers open here, at the point the ball should be coming out.
Easy TD for Celek, Miller and possibly Boldin (not quite as open as the other 2).

I'm sure with another half second from Staley, Kaep would have got it done. Unfortunately our O-Line is what it is, and we don't have that luxury, so the ball needs to come out fast. Has Kaep ever made the quick reads like we need now?
Originally posted by braap49er:
This has to be the dumbest decision making throw I've seen. It's embarrasing... How can we not look at the two open receivers. The possibilities if we had a QB who could see just a little of the field.

He wasn't even trying to read the field at that point. To make it worse he just continually chucked the ball deep hoping someone would come down with it lol. Arizona ruined this kid. After that debacle, Kap doesn't trust what he sees. Even if he sees a man wide open, he thinks a defender will come flying out of nowhere to pick it. It's all mental, but it seems like he's not mentally strong enough to bounce back.
[ Edited by CharlieSheen on Oct 7, 2015 at 5:06 AM ]
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