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Originally posted by defenderDX:Originally posted by LA9erFan:Both of you guys need to take it down a notch. Thanks.
we did. if you continued to read we were cool and found some common ground on our own
+1, truth bombOriginally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Both of you guys need to take it down a notch. Thanks.
we did. if you continued to read we were cool and found some common ground on our own
so, a pass to torrey would have been useless?Originally posted by Joecool:There's really only two reads for Kap here:
His left: The FS over Torrey and the underneath flat backer. If Kap picks this side to read first, then his first read should be the LB since the FS is obviously playing help over Torrey. The LB floats too far back for an EASY quick pass to Patten who may have beaten the LB with his speed after the catch.
His right: This read is easier since Boldin isn't going deep. If Kap picks this side to read first, all he needs to do is ready the LB. This LB floats too far back as well shutting off the Boldin out. Quick hit to Vernon is a no brainer.
What's odd is that Kap climbs the pocket here with two hitches as if he wanted to go deep. WHY!!!!!??? Why would he do that with the FS shading to Torrey's side over the top? All in all, it was terrible recognition on a play that could have picked up close to 1st down yardage.
Actually, Vernon short of the first shouldn't have even been a thought in Kap's mind considering he's horrible after a standstill catch.
What should he have done? You have two burners on your left. With Torrey getting shaded over, it should have been a quick pass to Patton. If that was taken, then that means Boldin's under backer is probably jumping Vernon so you go straight back to Boldin on the out.
Also notice the DT staying back as a spy. Good call on keeping Kap in.
Originally posted by audick:Someone earlier asked about why Kap was not under center as much as he was the last game when it seemed to really help his game. I ADMIT I turned it off at the half (I had a pressing need to redecorate the closet) but: is it true that he wasn't under center as much, and if so, any theories as to why?
Kap hits his back foot hitch and fire that to smith! I understand the safety is on smiths hash but maybe kap can perhaps use his eyes to manipulate the safety plenty of time in the pocket. Sherman falls and smith is wise ass open with his speed that a td! Smfh dude isn't gonna ever get it period time to move on!Originally posted by thl408:After the failed attempt to execute a pick/rub, this is the next play.
High-low read to each side versus Cover3 (man cover on backside WR, Sherman vs Torrey).
Kap completes the dropback and looks to Boldin. Because VD and Patton were kept in tight to help widen the pass rushers, they are slow to get into their routes. Blue does a good job impeding Boldin, then takes a deep zone drop and prevents any throwing lane to Boldin's Out.
I get that the 49ers wanted to protect Pears/Staley by lining up Patton and VD next to the OTackles, but that affects the high-low read. Help OL and reduce effectiveness of route combinations, or protect Kap so he can make a throw? One way to beat zones is to get 5 routes in play and move defenders around. Keeping WRs in to protect doesn't help other routes get open as far as route combinations and how they work in unison with one another.
Kap hits a trainer with the pass. Pow! Right in the kisser! Two drives, two 3&outs.
Originally posted by communist:so, a pass to torrey would have been useless?Originally posted by Joecool:There's really only two reads for Kap here:
His left: The FS over Torrey and the underneath flat backer. If Kap picks this side to read first, then his first read should be the LB since the FS is obviously playing help over Torrey. The LB floats too far back for an EASY quick pass to Patten who may have beaten the LB with his speed after the catch.
His right: This read is easier since Boldin isn't going deep. If Kap picks this side to read first, all he needs to do is ready the LB. This LB floats too far back as well shutting off the Boldin out. Quick hit to Vernon is a no brainer.
What's odd is that Kap climbs the pocket here with two hitches as if he wanted to go deep. WHY!!!!!??? Why would he do that with the FS shading to Torrey's side over the top? All in all, it was terrible recognition on a play that could have picked up close to 1st down yardage.
Actually, Vernon short of the first shouldn't have even been a thought in Kap's mind considering he's horrible after a standstill catch.
What should he have done? You have two burners on your left. With Torrey getting shaded over, it should have been a quick pass to Patton. If that was taken, then that means Boldin's under backer is probably jumping Vernon so you go straight back to Boldin on the out.
Also notice the DT staying back as a spy. Good call on keeping Kap in.
I'm not disagreeing with you on that but he was looking right the whole time by doing that the safety sifted his backpedal in that direction he had a clean pocket with enough time for not one but two hitches if he knows it's not there look to the other side of he does its 7 instead a trainer gets concussion protocol!!!Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by communist:so, a pass to torrey would have been useless?Originally posted by Joecool:There's really only two reads for Kap here:
His left: The FS over Torrey and the underneath flat backer. If Kap picks this side to read first, then his first read should be the LB since the FS is obviously playing help over Torrey. The LB floats too far back for an EASY quick pass to Patten who may have beaten the LB with his speed after the catch.
His right: This read is easier since Boldin isn't going deep. If Kap picks this side to read first, all he needs to do is ready the LB. This LB floats too far back as well shutting off the Boldin out. Quick hit to Vernon is a no brainer.
What's odd is that Kap climbs the pocket here with two hitches as if he wanted to go deep. WHY!!!!!??? Why would he do that with the FS shading to Torrey's side over the top? All in all, it was terrible recognition on a play that could have picked up close to 1st down yardage.
Actually, Vernon short of the first shouldn't have even been a thought in Kap's mind considering he's horrible after a standstill catch.
What should he have done? You have two burners on your left. With Torrey getting shaded over, it should have been a quick pass to Patton. If that was taken, then that means Boldin's under backer is probably jumping Vernon so you go straight back to Boldin on the out.
Also notice the DT staying back as a spy. Good call on keeping Kap in.
Presnap and the drop showed safety shading over so, considering the OL blocking and presnap read, it wasn't the best initial decision.
Originally posted by philosoraptor:Originally posted by thl408:Originally posted by SoCold:Originally posted by JDMathews49ers:Sadly the coaches film thread has become more and more depressing.
it's like nfl bloopers
Yeah, each week the thread gets shorter and shorter in pages. Soon, no one is going to gaf anymore. Usually I am anxious to watch the film. This week I was not.
I was honestly expecting you guys to take a week off, I wouldnt have blamed you.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Both of you guys need to take it down a notch. Thanks.
we did. if you continued to read we were cool and found some common ground on our own
Well, the multiple people who asked you to knock it off in the within thread and whomever reported your posts after the last part of your exchange didn't seem to think so.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
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The Brock TD, I think we got caught in a different type of cover-2 defense. I've seen it a couple times before, but it's not too common. Where your 2 outside corners act as your 2 deep safeties in a cover 2. So, it allows your safeties to play the hook/curl/seam aggressively, which was a result of how Sea was attacking us. I'll show it in a little bit.
