Week 8 St. Louis rams coaches film analysis

So many basic things Kaep is missing, the receivers frustration makes so much sense. These dudes are doing there job and getting open and the QB is not getting them the ball

Excuse my Aussies accent.

How,does,the thread work?

Can I for example ask for tape on the RB snaps with GAskins in at RB?

With the analysis?


Thanks in advance!

Originally posted by thl408:
I got a few examples of why Kap's benching is well deserved, as if it's not obvious. He has a severe case of tunnel vision and indecisiveness.

Is it possible the tunnel vision has been conditioned into him by being under pressure, and the indecisiveness from not trusting what his tunnel vision is telling him? i.e. there's pressure for him to release quickly, but he knows there could be a better option. Once this becomes habit, the poor decision making process could continue even without pressure.

If this is the case, he's broken and needs time out of the real game to recover.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

On this series, I was wondering if Geep was just trying to get more room for a punt and get out of dodge, by calling 3 straight runs.

Just lok at Maftin geting straight pwnt on that. Its like he weighs 125 pounds or something. So weak.

This guys still hasn't got the AZ game out of his head. He see's Reggie the whole way but feels the need to scan the left side before throwing to make sure Tyrann Mathieu isn't flying in from nowhere for a pick, but by the time he does that it's too late. I don't get how he went from answering every mistake with a scoring drive, to letting everything get in his head and fluster him.

Originally posted by thl408:

That technique of ripping the ball out though, nice.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

This guys still hasn't got the AZ game out of his head. He see's Reggie the whole way but feels the need to scan the left side before throwing to make sure Tyrann Mathieu isn't flying in from nowhere for a pick, but by the time he does that it's too late. I don't get how he went from answering every mistake with a scoring drive, to letting everything get in his head and fluster him.


My thinking is, Kaep sees Bush but instead of getting ready for the throw regardless of the rush, he shifts and tried to find more space for the throw. That's just as bad as holding on to the ball. Have to be quick and decisive, stand in there and deliver the ball knowing he's going to get hit. He's seeing the rush early and letting it affect his throw. Kinda looking at the rush more than his receivers.

Originally posted by MFWIC:

Excuse my Aussies accent.

How,does,the thread work?

Can I for example ask for tape on the RB snaps with GAskins in at RB?

With the analysis?


Thanks in advance!

No worries about the accent! Lol. Well, normally, myself and Thl, or anyone else who'd want to join in, will break down different plays as examples of the why's and how's a game turned out the way it did.

Feel free to ask anything you'd like, doesn't mean we'll be able to get to it, but there's no harm in asking.

Unfortunately, I have a business trip that I'm leaving for this morning and will be out of town til Saturday so that put a lot more on my work plate for Tuesday(I normally only work a few hours in tuesday) so u won't have much time. Each breakdown does take, depending on how many different stills you have to capture and edit, anywhere from 15-25 min per play(for me, on average) some take longer. So, trying to do an exhaustive breakdown of that many plays is just too time consuming.

Johnny and THL I know you guys are busy this week, but any chance you can cut up some plays from pre season of Gabbert when he was in there, maybe when it was the early 2nd quarter when there were still some 1st string in as well. Or maybe just give a review about what you think are his strengths and weaknesses. That's if they even have the all 22 available for the preseason games.

I am really interested to see what our offense looks like with Gabbert in there because I think this offense fits his style, short quick passes, he's not much of a down field passer. As we've seen in these cut ups, a lot of those passes are available, but Kap has missed the read. These next few weeks will tell us a lot as to whether our struggles on offense have a lot to do with Kap or are we really just that void of talent on offense.

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Overall, I think our defense played well. Prior to Gurley's long TD on the Tank slip and Reid halfass tackle, we were handling Gurley, which no other team was able to do.

I'm liking the direction our defense is heading.

The Rams' offense is nearly as bad as the Niners' offense. Don't be fooled.

Yes but not their run game. We were playing Gurley very well until our guy slipped. Eric Reid seems good for one missed sloppy tackle a game.

Originally posted by Luckycharms:
Johnny and THL I know you guys are busy this week, but any chance you can cut up some plays from pre season of Gabbert when he was in there, maybe when it was the early 2nd quarter when there were still some 1st string in as well. Or maybe just give a review about what you think are his strengths and weaknesses. That's if they even have the all 22 available for the preseason games.

I am really interested to see what our offense looks like with Gabbert in there because I think this offense fits his style, short quick passes, he's not much of a down field passer. As we've seen in these cut ups, a lot of those passes are available, but Kap has missed the read. These next few weeks will tell us a lot as to whether our struggles on offense have a lot to do with Kap or are we really just that void of talent on offense.

There's no all22 from preseason games so I can't really tell what's going on. I, too, have a feeling that Gabbert will do better with the short range throws, but understand that what looked like improvement came against 2nd/3rd stringers in preseason. Supposedly, ATL has the same defense as SEA, just with inferior personnel. This scheme is attacked with short/intermediate throws which fits with Gabbert and what Geep has been calling.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by MFWIC:
Excuse my Aussies accent.

How,does,the thread work?

Can I for example ask for tape on the RB snaps with GAskins in at RB?

With the analysis?


Thanks in advance!

No worries about the accent! Lol. Well, normally, myself and Thl, or anyone else who'd want to join in, will break down different plays as examples of the why's and how's a game turned out the way it did.

Feel free to ask anything you'd like, doesn't mean we'll be able to get to it, but there's no harm in asking.

Unfortunately, I have a business trip that I'm leaving for this morning and will be out of town til Saturday so that put a lot more on my work plate for Tuesday(I normally only work a few hours in tuesday) so u won't have much time. Each breakdown does take, depending on how many different stills you have to capture and edit, anywhere from 15-25 min per play(for me, on average) some take longer. So, trying to do an exhaustive breakdown of that many plays is just too time consuming.

Sorry, MFWIC. I'm not that interested in breaking down a 4th string RB's snaps. Plus it's hard to tell how good he is when the OL is giving up penetration before the RB receives the handoff.

It wasn't all bad for Kap. Kap had 2 good throws to Simpson that I thought Simpson should have caught down the sideline. This was probably his best throw of the game. This is on the second FG drive.

Z Cross versus Cover3
Torrey is the X WR, lined up on the weakside. Patton is the Z. Patton is running a deep cross, therefore 'Z Cross'. Torrey takes the top off for Patton to attack the underneath.


Torrey pushes the deep zone defenders (black) back.


Being that this is just a two route concept with the 49ers keeping in additional blockers, there's a very small window to target Patton. If Kap throws it too early, then the deep 1/3 defender on Torrey's side can peel off and make a play on the throw. If Kap throws it too late, then Patton runs out of bounds. Kap is mid windup.


+33 yards

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Luckycharms:

Johnny and THL I know you guys are busy this week, but any chance you can cut up some plays from pre season of Gabbert when he was in there, maybe when it was the early 2nd quarter when there were still some 1st string in as well. Or maybe just give a review about what you think are his strengths and weaknesses. That's if they even have the all 22 available for the preseason games.

I am really interested to see what our offense looks like with Gabbert in there because I think this offense fits his style, short quick passes, he's not much of a down field passer. As we've seen in these cut ups, a lot of those passes are available, but Kap has missed the read. These next few weeks will tell us a lot as to whether our struggles on offense have a lot to do with Kap or are we really just that void of talent on offense.

There's no all22 from preseason games so I can't really tell what's going on. I, too, have a feeling that Gabbert will do better with the short range throws, but understand that what looked like improvement came against 2nd/3rd stringers in preseason. Supposedly, ATL has the same defense as SEA, just with inferior personnel. This scheme is attacked with short/intermediate throws which fits with Gabbert and what Geep has been calling.

I made a shallow cross post in the concepts thread a while back and used your gif from Gabbert's TD vs Hou:

So here is Gabbbet running one of Geep's favorite concepts.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

No worries about the accent! Lol. Well, normally, myself and Thl, or anyone else who'd want to join in, will break down different plays as examples of the why's and how's a game turned out the way it did.

Feel free to ask anything you'd like, doesn't mean we'll be able to get to it, but there's no harm in asking.

Unfortunately, I have a business trip that I'm leaving for this morning and will be out of town til Saturday so that put a lot more on my work plate for Tuesday(I normally only work a few hours in tuesday) so u won't have much time. Each breakdown does take, depending on how many different stills you have to capture and edit, anywhere from 15-25 min per play(for me, on average) some take longer. So, trying to do an exhaustive breakdown of that many plays is just too time consuming.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by MFWIC:

Excuse my Aussies accent.

How,does,the thread work?

Can I for example ask for tape on the RB snaps with GAskins in at RB?

With the analysis?


Thanks in advance!

No worries about the accent! Lol. Well, normally, myself and Thl, or anyone else who'd want to join in, will break down different plays as examples of the why's and how's a game turned out the way it did.

Feel free to ask anything you'd like, doesn't mean we'll be able to get to it, but there's no harm in asking.

Unfortunately, I have a business trip that I'm leaving for this morning and will be out of town til Saturday so that put a lot more on my work plate for Tuesday(I normally only work a few hours in tuesday) so u won't have much time. Each breakdown does take, depending on how many different stills you have to capture and edit, anywhere from 15-25 min per play(for me, on average) some take longer. So, trying to do an exhaustive breakdown of that many plays is just too time consuming.

Sorry, MFWIC. I'm not that interested in breaking down a 4th string RB's snaps. Plus it's hard to tell how good he is when the OL is giving up penetration before the RB receives the handoff.

He may well be the starting RB this week.

Just trying to learn the game a little, HC put him on the roster as a power back, so want to see how he was used as the power back in this game.

We all know thenOL is a cluster f**k, but all our RB have been behind the same O line all year. But still it seemed the RB were ineffective, is HYde that much better or just willing to get banged up ( paying price now).

Have seen tape and analysi on these RB plays previous games in this type of thread.

Again , would appreciate the effort and understand the time and real life pressure.

Guess I can just go back to thenhayne thread, but wanted to venture out and learn some detail so I am bette informed.