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Week 9 ATL Falcons coaches film analysis

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Originally posted by jonnydel:
Here's the Simpson drop for an INT - whoever said it was criminal is right - a great play by Gabbert, horrid play by Simpson....


I just realized I forgot to draw the routes at the top - but, it's a seam streak by Simpson and a flat route by the RB. It creates an interesting concept on that side, almost like a smash or dagger concept. Because they have 3 receivers to the other side, the OLB on the single receiver side is going to have flat coverage in a cover 3 zone. So, if Gabbert reads that side, that LB is his key. If the LB drops with the receiver up the seam then he'll dump is off to the RB, if not, he's gonna take a shot at the seam. On the other side, it's a spacing concept - just a little different than normal. Normally, you have the routes crossing, but here, it's just a straight spacing concept. ATL is running cover 3 zone, you can see it pre-snap and so does Gabbert.


After the snap you can see Gabbert read the OLB. He's reading which route he'll take in coverage.


When the LB doesn't keep dropping back, Gabbert knows he's going for the seam.


Gabbert lets it rip and you see the hole between the defenders he has.


He drops it over the LB and between the corner and the safety right in the bread basket. If Simpson catches it, he might take it to the house. But.....



But...oh....uhgh.....


From this angle you can clearly see Gabbert reading the LB, he's not staring the receiver down.


He's got great knee bend and a good high arm slot on his throw.


You see the prettiness of Gabbert's throw. It had to have both touch and velocity to get over the LB but between the safety and corner. That's a pretty darn good throw.
That weakside CB did a really poor job of gaining depth here and allows Simpson to get behind him. That CB needs to be over the top. By going 3x1 here, with Torrey being one of the three WRs to the stronside, that influenced the deep middle safety to shade towards the strong side, leaving a nice seam. I like having speed and size opposite Torrey (Simpson). Speed is something Boldin cannot provide. Simpson has to start catching the ball though. He dropped a couple good throws from Kap versus STL too.
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Originally posted by jonnydel:
Here's the Simpson drop for an INT - whoever said it was criminal is right - a great play by Gabbert, horrid play by Simpson....


I just realized I forgot to draw the routes at the top - but, it's a seam streak by Simpson and a flat route by the RB. It creates an interesting concept on that side, almost like a smash or dagger concept. Because they have 3 receivers to the other side, the OLB on the single receiver side is going to have flat coverage in a cover 3 zone. So, if Gabbert reads that side, that LB is his key. If the LB drops with the receiver up the seam then he'll dump is off to the RB, if not, he's gonna take a shot at the seam. On the other side, it's a spacing concept - just a little different than normal. Normally, you have the routes crossing, but here, it's just a straight spacing concept. ATL is running cover 3 zone, you can see it pre-snap and so does Gabbert.


After the snap you can see Gabbert read the OLB. He's reading which route he'll take in coverage.


When the LB doesn't keep dropping back, Gabbert knows he's going for the seam.


Gabbert lets it rip and you see the hole between the defenders he has.


He drops it over the LB and between the corner and the safety right in the bread basket. If Simpson catches it, he might take it to the house. But.....



But...oh....uhgh.....


From this angle you can clearly see Gabbert reading the LB, he's not staring the receiver down.


He's got great knee bend and a good high arm slot on his throw.


You see the prettiness of Gabbert's throw. It had to have both touch and velocity to get over the LB but between the safety and corner. That's a pretty darn good throw.

It was me that said it was criminal that it resulted in an Int. I thought it was a great throw by Gabbert. Thanks for cutting it up.
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After forcing a FG on ATL's first drive, the 49ers get the ball back trailing 3-0. Here's an example of Gabbert throwing on time, into open space in zone coverage. When trying to beat zone, it's about understanding where the quiet areas in the zone coverage is, knowing whether the play called will have a route coming into a quiet area, when that route is going to come into that area, and throwing before the WR gets there.

Inverted Mills concept versus Cover3 - This is a two route concept that looks to attack the area behind the underneath zone defenders.
Mills concept has the #1 running a Post and the #2 running a Dig. Here, it's reversed as the slot WR runs the Post and the outside WR runs the Dig. The orange defender is the a Hook defender and is key in allowing the Dig to be targeted.


Playaction to that side of the formation sucks in the orange Hook defender.


The red Post is designed to get the attention of the deep middle safety and the deep 1/3 on the other side of the field. Notice orange turned around and hustling back to gain depth. With orange removed, there is a clear passing lane to the yellow quiet area. Gabbert is mid throwing motion just as Torrey enters his break. Good timing.


7 step timing with a hitch. The pass is a bit underthrown so Torrey has to adjust by getting down. The ball hits Torrey in the breadbasket but is dropped. What's good to see is that Gabbert has trust in the concept to get the WR open. The playaction, the red Post, all work to get a passing lane to the quiet area of cover3.
I noticed a huge thing that Gabbert did after the play action. Haven't seen Kap turn his head around that quick after a fake hand-off ever...I think. Kap has been more casual about resetting after a play fake.
Originally posted by thl408:
After forcing a FG on ATL's first drive, the 49ers get the ball back trailing 3-0. Here's an example of Gabbert throwing on time, into open space in zone coverage. When trying to beat zone, it's about understanding where the quiet areas in the zone coverage is, knowing whether the play called will have a route coming into a quiet area, when that route is going to come into that area, and throwing before the WR gets there.

Inverted Mills concept versus Cover3 - This is a two route concept that looks to attack the area behind the underneath zone defenders.
Mills concept has the #1 running a Post and the #2 running a Dig. Here, it's reversed as the slot WR runs the Post and the outside WR runs the Dig. The orange defender is the a Hook defender and is key in allowing the Dig to be targeted.


Playaction to that side of the formation sucks in the orange Hook defender.


The red Post is designed to get the attention of the deep middle safety and the deep 1/3 on the other side of the field. Notice orange turned around and hustling back to gain depth. With orange removed, there is a clear passing lane to the yellow quiet area. Gabbert is mid throwing motion just as Torrey enters his break. Good timing.


7 step timing with a hitch. The pass is a bit underthrown so Torrey has to adjust by getting down. The ball hits Torrey in the breadbasket but is dropped. What's good to see is that Gabbert has trust in the concept to get the WR open. The playaction, the red Post, all work to get a passing lane to the quiet area of cover3.

Loved this play - it's almost a dagger concept. I think the key read is the same. one of those plays that's most likely the result of not working too much together, you can see TS rounds off his route a little, if he ran it flat from his break at the 50 the ball wouldn't be as under-thrown and Gabbert is probably used to throwing that pass to slower WR's so it's a little behind.
Originally posted by Joecool:
I noticed a huge thing that Gabbert did after the play action. Haven't seen Kap turn his head around that quick after a fake hand-off ever...I think. Kap has been more casual about resetting after a play fake.
It's his footwork. He's got quicker feet to get around and be in time on his steps. All through the game, I saw Gabbert's footwork and, specifically, timing of his footwork, was better than Kaep's. I was actually quite impressed.

Footwork is absolutely essential to a QB. Bill Walsh said it was what made Joe Montana so great. I remember seeing an interview with Randy Cross and he talked about how Bill Walsh would gush over Montana's footwork to him. He said Bill said to him, one day in practice, "Randy, just look at Joe's feet! They're absolutely sensual in the way they move".
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by Joecool:
I noticed a huge thing that Gabbert did after the play action. Haven't seen Kap turn his head around that quick after a fake hand-off ever...I think. Kap has been more casual about resetting after a play fake.
It's his footwork. He's got quicker feet to get around and be in time on his steps. All through the game, I saw Gabbert's footwork and, specifically, timing of his footwork, was better than Kaep's. I was actually quite impressed.

Footwork is absolutely essential to a QB. Bill Walsh said it was what made Joe Montana so great. I remember seeing an interview with Randy Cross and he talked about how Bill Walsh would gush over Montana's footwork to him. He said Bill said to him, one day in practice, "Randy, just look at Joe's feet! They're absolutely sensual in the way they move".

It not only keeps you in position to throw but it keeps a QB in better position to move or get the f**k out of there. Some just aren't athletic enough with the quick feet to reset quickly after they do move.
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FWIW, I love it when you both cut the same play. I know its not intentional, but seeing the differences between two experienced perspectives on the same action is really quite valuable.
Just perused the entire thread. Great stuff, and thanks for putting in the hours to illustrate.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
It's his footwork. He's got quicker feet to get around and be in time on his steps. All through the game, I saw Gabbert's footwork and, specifically, timing of his footwork, was better than Kaep's. I was actually quite impressed.

Footwork is absolutely essential to a QB. Bill Walsh said it was what made Joe Montana so great. I remember seeing an interview with Randy Cross and he talked about how Bill Walsh would gush over Montana's footwork to him. He said Bill said to him, one day in practice, "Randy, just look at Joe's feet! They're absolutely sensual in the way they move".

Footwork really is the secret to the WCO. That's why I always loved Steve youngs description of the WCO, when he said it is specifically an offense that tied the QBs feet to the WR routes. I loved how Bill would tell his QBs that their feet would tell them where the ball was suppose to go. It's just beautiful when it's ran to perfection. It really is art.


Warning: QB footwork porn It's safe for work though.
[ Edited by Niners816 on Nov 11, 2015 at 4:07 PM ]
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
It's his footwork. He's got quicker feet to get around and be in time on his steps. All through the game, I saw Gabbert's footwork and, specifically, timing of his footwork, was better than Kaep's. I was actually quite impressed.

Footwork is absolutely essential to a QB. Bill Walsh said it was what made Joe Montana so great. I remember seeing an interview with Randy Cross and he talked about how Bill Walsh would gush over Montana's footwork to him. He said Bill said to him, one day in practice, "Randy, just look at Joe's feet! They're absolutely sensual in the way they move".

Footwork really is the secret to the WCO. That's why I always loved Steve youngs description of the WCO, when he said it is specifically an offense that tied the QBs feet to the WR routes. I loved how Bill would tell his QBs that their feet would tell them where the ball was suppose to go. It's just beautiful when it's ran to perfection. It really is art.


Warning: QB footwork porn It's safe for work though.

Interesting how it was obvious Joe was not going to throw to the right. That was all to move the defense. He knew if he moved the defense, Taylor or Rice would get open.
Originally posted by thl408:
Lol jonny. Beat you to this play by 4 minutes. Good display of team D. Like the aggressiveness of Wilhoite on this play.

when i watch that play. Wilhoite stands out a lot. He caught my eye right away. And thanks for all your time you put in. I appreciate it.
[ Edited by PA49ersfan on Nov 11, 2015 at 5:25 PM ]
Originally posted by Joecool:
Interesting how it was obvious Joe was not going to throw to the right. That was all to move the defense. He knew if he moved the defense, Taylor or Rice would get open.

It's a sticks concept, the primary and secondary are on the side the motion is going. In the play design, Jerry is the 3rd option.

This is basically the play. Absolute staple of our 80s and 90s offense. This concept is still run by a ton of teams out of a variety of formations. Note the Y route actually sits vs zone and runs away from man. It's not always just an out route.
[ Edited by Niners816 on Nov 11, 2015 at 5:35 PM ]
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