Week 9 ATL Falcons coaches film analysis

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by SJniner7:

Originally posted by Joecool:

I noticed a huge thing that Gabbert did after the play action. Haven't seen Kap turn his head around that quick after a fake hand-off ever...I think. Kap has been more casual about resetting after a play fake.

One of the big things i can't flipping stand about kaps game, his fake handoff. Kaps playaction fake handoff are horrendous and often on the wrong side. You watch guys like Rodgers and even wilson, those guys sell the crap out of the playaction and it guys them an extra second or two

I'm pretty sure our RBs are coached to break the playaction and go after a free defender if they see one. Gore/Dixon/Hyde did that here.

but don't let me stop the bashing.

But that also comes back to the qb. That shows a lack of understanding the fronts and personnel assignments on every play. He's not always identifying where the rushers are coming from-which leads into where to go with the ball.

Originally posted by thl408:
The NFL's leading rusher came into the game averaging 4.4 ypc while getting 25, then 21 carries the previous two weeks - workhorse status. The 49ers held him to 12 yards on 12 carries. His runs were: 6, 0, -4, 1, -3, 1, 5, 4, -3, -3, 7, 1. I wanted to see which 49er was so instrumental to this, but couldn't come up with any one name because it seemed there was a different player making the play every time Freeman was tackled for loss or minimal gain.

Players to watch are Dial, Wilhoite, Tartt, and Brooks. Throughout the game, Tartt would creep up to the LoS on almost every run play it seemed, and did his job eating up a block or disrupting the play.
Stretch Left vs Nickel front


Dial (92) gets inside hand position on the LG and stands him upright. This is not a good look for an OLman. This allows Dial to control both sides of that LG. Wilhoite does a good job of diagnosing the play and will shoot the A gap, right past the Center. Brooks sets the edge very well, dominating the TE.


Wilhoite is in the backfield and Dial puts up a wall while giving up no ground. Tartt gets blasted by Julio. We know Tartt will get payback later in the game. Brooks continues to hold the edge which limits what Freeman can do on a stretch run. DJ gets into his run fit.


With no where outside to go, Freeman turns inside and Wilhoite is there to meet him. No gain. Wilhoite gets the Tackle stat, but Dial and Brooks give Freeman no running room.

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Wanted to give the D some love. There's nothing to show for him on his drive, but, I thought Bow played a killer game. He really started to look like pre-injury Bow.

Anyhoo, this is a 3 play series of how we stopped ATL to hold them to their first FG of the game.


ATL is gonna do a stretch run to the strong side, should look familiar.


As Thl noted earlier, there was something, either in the play call or in something the offense showed because just before the snap, Tartt came flying down into the box.


The two guys who really do the dirty work on this play are Dial and Brooks. Brooks does a great job of setting the edge, it forces the RB to turn it up. You see how Bow is pretty free right now. The G has to choose between the LB and the safety.


The guard blocks Bow and the receiver blocks Tartt, but this free's up Johnson who steps up and Wilhoite has disengaged to slide into the backside hole.


The whole team, just about, clogs up the point of attack so that the RB doesn't have anywhere to go.

On a side note, I don't know what is happening to Williams....not sure how that's not a hold...or a personal violation of some sort.


Freeman is stopped for no gain.

LOL

Johnny or THL can you show the dropped pass by McDonald on the 1 attempt Kap had, I had read that TS was open on the other side for a TD if Kap would of looked his way. And I'm not trying to take a shot at Kap if this is true, cus I thought Vance should of caught that pass, it's just more out of curiosity . Thank you guys again for all the work, love this thread

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by SJniner7:

Originally posted by Joecool:
I noticed a huge thing that Gabbert did after the play action. Haven't seen Kap turn his head around that quick after a fake hand-off ever...I think. Kap has been more casual about resetting after a play fake.

One of the big things i can't flipping stand about kaps game, his fake handoff. Kaps playaction fake handoff are horrendous and often on the wrong side. You watch guys like Rodgers and even wilson, those guys sell the crap out of the playaction and it guys them an extra second or two

I'm pretty sure our RBs are coached to break the playaction and go after a free defender if they see one. Gore/Dixon/Hyde did that here.

but don't let me stop the bashing.

But that also comes back to the qb. That shows a lack of understanding the fronts and personnel assignments on every play. He's not always identifying where the rushers are coming from-which leads into where to go with the ball.

lack of understanding fronts and assignments huh? on every play?

Have you noticed if Gore does the same thing in Indy?

we'll have to see how our RBs and Gabbert do as well.

Originally posted by Luckycharms:
Johnny or THL can you show the dropped pass by McDonald on the 1 attempt Kap had, I had read that TS was open on the other side for a TD if Kap would of looked his way. And I'm not trying to take a shot at Kap if this is true, cus I thought Vance should of caught that pass, it's just more out of curiosity . Thank you guys again for all the work, love this thread

I'm going to piggy back on this. If you guys can look at the Atlanta defense on the play. It looks to me like it's the same defense for this one that got Torrey going behind half of their defense:



Just replace Patton with Torrey Smith. No one follows Patton. All defenders playing zone except 1 and the safety on top. It looks to me like the Atlanta defense got away with giving up a big play twice. BTW, Gabbert had seen this alignment so I wonder if he could've taken advantage had he been in on the play where he had to come out for concussion protocol.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
lack of understanding fronts and assignments huh? on every play?

Have you noticed if Gore does the same thing in Indy?

we'll have to see how our RBs and Gabbert do as well.

When people are done with a player they will grasp at anything to criticize him.

Originally posted by Luckycharms:
Johnny or THL can you show the dropped pass by McDonald on the 1 attempt Kap had, I had read that TS was open on the other side for a TD if Kap would of looked his way. And I'm not trying to take a shot at Kap if this is true, cus I thought Vance should of caught that pass, it's just more out of curiosity . Thank you guys again for all the work, love this thread

Versus Cover3. On the whiteboard, this play busts Cover 3 by having Torrey (red) remove the deep 1/3 defender for Vance to attack the area behind the LBs and in front of the removed deep 1/3 defender. Patton's route holds the middle safety. Black circles are the deep zones.


The playaction sucks in the field side deep 1/3 defender (black). He's in trouble.


As the play develops, the mistake by that black deep 1/3 defender is magnified as Patton has room to work his Post route.


I'm fairly certain that on the whiteboard, Vance is the most likely WR to be open versus Cover3. It isn't until the field side deep 1/3 defender bites so hard on the playfake that Patton really becomes an option. If that defender doesn't bite hard, there's no way Patton is open. It would have been nice if Kap had quickly checked to exploit that mistake, because the window to Patton is larger, but Kap went with how the play was drawn up for the primary WR (Vance). I do think Patton's route develops quicker than Vance's so it's not impossible to check Patton, then go to Vance (deep crossing routes are very long to develop).

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by Luckycharms:

Johnny or THL can you show the dropped pass by McDonald on the 1 attempt Kap had, I had read that TS was open on the other side for a TD if Kap would of looked his way. And I'm not trying to take a shot at Kap if this is true, cus I thought Vance should of caught that pass, it's just more out of curiosity . Thank you guys again for all the work, love this thread

I'm going to piggy back on this. If you guys can look at the Atlanta defense on the play. It looks to me like it's the same defense for this one that got Torrey going behind half of their defense:



Just replace Patton with Torrey Smith. No one follows Patton. All defenders playing zone except 1 and the safety on top. It looks to me like the Atlanta defense got away with giving up a big play twice. BTW, Gabbert had seen this alignment so I wonder if he could've taken advantage had he been in on the play where he had to come out for concussion protocol.

This is why establishing passes to the flats is so essential vs a cover 3. That end one play, the defense seemed worried about the flat which gives a wide open backside post. Sort of wish we wouldn't have played a cover 3 team so that SEA doesn't have film of us against it.

All this game proved to me, is that Atlanta is a fluke.

Originally posted by thl408:

Versus Cover3. On the whiteboard, this play busts Cover 3 by having Torrey (red) remove the deep 1/3 defender for Vance to attack the area behind the LBs and in front of the removed deep 1/3 defender. Patton's route holds the middle safety. Black circles are the deep zones.


The playaction sucks in the field side deep 1/3 defender (black). He's in trouble.


As the play develops, the mistake by that black deep 1/3 defender is magnified as Patton has room to work his Post route.


I'm fairly certain that on the whiteboard, Vance is the most likely WR to be open versus Cover3. It isn't until the field side deep 1/3 defender bites so hard on the playfake that Patton really becomes an option. If that defender doesn't bite hard, there's no way Patton is open. It would have been nice if Kap had quickly checked to exploit that mistake, because the window to Patton is larger, but Kap went with how the play was drawn up for the primary WR (Vance). I do think Patton's route develops quicker than Vance's so it's not impossible to check Patton, then go to Vance (deep crossing routes are very long to develop).

Patton was gone, dude got behind the defense pretty fast.

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
All this game proved to me, is that Atlanta is a fluke.

So we're not Super Bowl bound?

Originally posted by Blindfury:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

All this game proved to me, is that Atlanta is a fluke.

So we're not Super Bowl bound?

Sadly, no

Originally posted by Afrikan:

lack of understanding fronts and assignments huh? on every play?

Have you noticed if Gore does the same thing in Indy?

we'll have to see how our RBs and Gabbert do as well.

Have yiu noticed Gore doing it?

Originally posted by Blindfury:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

lack of understanding fronts and assignments huh? on every play?

Have you noticed if Gore does the same thing in Indy?

we'll have to see how our RBs and Gabbert do as well.

When people are done with a player they will grasp at anything to criticize him.

Please, tell me where in the past 2 years I've ever grasped to criticize CK?....

Though, I guess someone, a little while back, did say that this year I was, "showing my true colors" lol

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
All this game proved to me, is that Atlanta is a fluke.

If we beat SEA you'll say the same thing