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Originally posted by Boagrius49:
Love your work, dude!
Just putting this out there: Greg Cosell of NFL films said on KNBR yesterday, that this play is on Gabbert. He said Gabbert has to make these "easy" throws.
Originally posted by susweel:How much creativity do you expect when the pass pro can barely hold up against a 4 man rush? As soon as there's more "creativity" we start b***hing about route concepts that take too long to develop and get the QB sacked.
One thing is for sure our pass plays are easy as f**k to defense. No creativity at all in play design.
Originally posted by thl408:How much creativity do you expect when the pass pro can barely hold up against a 4 man rush? As soon as there's more "creativity" we start b***hing about route concepts that take too long to develop and get the QB sacked.Originally posted by susweel:One thing is for sure our pass plays are easy as f**k to defense. No creativity at all in play design.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by susweel:How much creativity do you expect when the pass pro can barely hold up against a 4 man rush? As soon as there's more "creativity" we start b***hing about route concepts that take too long to develop and get the QB sacked.
One thing is for sure our pass plays are easy as f**k to defense. No creativity at all in play design.
Originally posted by jonnydel:Maybe there was another one, but this is the double swim move I saw.
Yep, yep and yep, lol.
Brooks bolded - Yes!! There was one run Seattle had for chunk yards where Brooks put an inside swim move on not one, but 2 blockers!!! you don't do that as the outside contain man!! Not only that, but he did it twice on the same F'n play!!!!
Gabbert made some real tough throws staying in the pocket and taking a hit. One thing that's really impressed me is that he has a really good knack for knowing when to stay in and make the throw and take a hit and knowing when to escape.
Originally posted by Niners816:If there is one thing missing from the 49ers passing attack it is the intermediate crossing routes - behind LBs, in front of safeties. This is a long developing route (5 plus hitches or 7 step timing).
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by susweel:How much creativity do you expect when the pass pro can barely hold up against a 4 man rush? As soon as there's more "creativity" we start b***hing about route concepts that take too long to develop and get the QB sacked.
One thing is for sure our pass plays are easy as f**k to defense. No creativity at all in play design.
Also how much more creativity is there? There really isn't a lot of new concepts out there. Pretty much offenses are expanded based on running multi concepts together and adding tempo.
Basically if you and Johnny broke down every team you'd see similar stuff....it would just be presented a little different.
Originally posted by dj43:Originally posted by thl408:How much creativity do you expect when the pass pro can barely hold up against a 4 man rush? As soon as there's more "creativity" we start b***hing about route concepts that take too long to develop and get the QB sacked.Originally posted by susweel:One thing is for sure our pass plays are easy as f**k to defense. No creativity at all in play design.
Actually, as we have already seen from some of the cut-ups, there were some good route concepts in play on Sunday.
Greg Cosell also mentioned the improvement although I disagree with a couple of his blanket comment.
Originally posted by thl408:If there is one thing missing from the 49ers passing attack it is the intermediate crossing routes - behind LBs, in front of safeties. This is a long developing route (5 plus hitches or 7 step timing).
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Niners816:If there is one thing missing from the 49ers passing attack it is the intermediate crossing routes - behind LBs, in front of safeties. This is a long developing route (5 plus hitches or 7 step timing).
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by susweel:How much creativity do you expect when the pass pro can barely hold up against a 4 man rush? As soon as there's more "creativity" we start b***hing about route concepts that take too long to develop and get the QB sacked.
One thing is for sure our pass plays are easy as f**k to defense. No creativity at all in play design.
Also how much more creativity is there? There really isn't a lot of new concepts out there. Pretty much offenses are expanded based on running multi concepts together and adding tempo.
Basically if you and Johnny broke down every team you'd see similar stuff....it would just be presented a little different.
Originally posted by thl408:
More suspect edge contain from Brooks. SEA's second drive of the game.
Power right vs Nickel front.
I mislabeled the guard. It should be the Left Guard.
The left guard is coming. As the edge defender, Brooks has to take this block head on and compress the lane that the RB has to run through. Make it difficult for the RB to squeeze through.
Ole! (Matador defense)
Brooks don't want none. +8 yards.
Originally posted by dj43:The 49ers do call 7 step timing drops, but it is always off play action with additional protection (6 or 7 blockers). Like the deep bomb to Ellington.
Originally posted by thl408:Those were staples in the Mike Martz offense but it also put some welts on QBs waiting for the routes to develop.
Originally posted by Niners816:If there is one thing missing from the 49ers passing attack it is the intermediate crossing routes - behind LBs, in front of safeties. This is a long developing route (5 plus hitches or 7 step timing).
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by susweel:How much creativity do you expect when the pass pro can barely hold up against a 4 man rush? As soon as there's more "creativity" we start b***hing about route concepts that take too long to develop and get the QB sacked.
One thing is for sure our pass plays are easy as f**k to defense. No creativity at all in play design.
Also how much more creativity is there? There really isn't a lot of new concepts out there. Pretty much offenses are expanded based on running multi concepts together and adding tempo.
Basically if you and Johnny broke down every team you'd see similar stuff....it would just be presented a little different.
In on the tanking fix.Originally posted by dj43:Originally posted by thl408:More suspect edge contain from Brooks. SEA's second drive of the game.
Power right vs Nickel front.
I mislabeled the guard. It should be the Left Guard.
The left guard is coming. As the edge defender, Brooks has to take this block head on and compress the lane that the RB has to run through. Make it difficult for the RB to squeeze through.
Ole! (Matador defense)
Brooks don't want none. +8 yards.
Also note Lynch's upfield move, opening up the same gap on the other side. That happened on a couple of other occasions.
Very uncharacteristic of other 49er defenses. Most of the times the OLB would hang in and do their job, or at least get blown up trying.
Originally posted by thl408:The 49ers do call 7 step timing drops, but it is always off play action with additional protection (6 or 7 blockers). Like the deep bomb to Ellington.
Originally posted by Niners816:
2015 - "shallow cross"
Note:gif and 2015 play illustration borrowed from Thl408
2015 play
1994 Niner version
Flip this play and you have the concept we used to score a red zone TD on Saturday night.
