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Originally posted by jonnydel:
Going off of what Thl pointed out last week - we continue to add variations or "wrinkles" to some of our more commonly used concepts to get the defense to bite. This is the biggest offensive play of the game - a 41 yarder to TS.


We're going to come out in "12" personnel. We then run a variation of a slide concept. The for TS, I've put the normal cut at the top of the route in black. We normally do a 3 level flood out of a slide concept.


You see the PA to the opposite side - that's what makes it a slide concept.


You see the safety, Rashad Johnson(who grew up in the little town I live in in Alabama and his mom lives a few houses down, she wouldn't want to watch this play haha. The road behind my house is, "rashad Johnson dr." lol.) Anyhoo, Johnson anticipates the outbreaking route on the flood and begins to drive on it - the cards are in a form of cover 3 zone here, btw.


You see how Johnson is anticipating the outbreaking route and now it's vacated the middle of the field.


TS gets behind the defense on a deep post.


41 yard gain. You could split hairs and mention that Gabbert underthrew the pass a little. But, to be fair, palmer had a play on a nearly identical route and underthrew his guy worse; and he's one of the best deep ball throwers in the league.
Torrey ran a nice Corner-Post double move.
To the Corner to get the safety biting.


Stem inside, to the Corner, back to the Post. I think Gabbert did underthrow this pass. Is this his max arm strength?
Originally posted by thl408:
Torrey ran a nice Corner-Post double move.
To the Corner to get the safety biting.


Stem inside, to the Corner, back to the Post. I think Gabbert did underthrow this pass. Is this his max arm strength?
prob not his max arm strength - not sure if there was a headwind during the game? Like I had said though, Palmer made the same underthrow(actually worse, Brock made a poor play on the ball, Ronde scolded him for it on the broadcast) on a nearly identical throw - so I'm not gonna harp on Gabs too much for it. Would I like it be further out there? heck yeah, but, I'll still take a 41 yard completion.
Originally posted by thl408:
Tomsula specifically spoke about this play on local radio. He said (paraphrased) that when they go 5 wide, Gabbert is in charge of hand signaling the WR routes, and that the slide protection falls on someone else. JT said that there was an obvious side of the formation that was overloaded and they called the slide protection to the wrong side (which you showed).
Pretty clear which side is overloaded.

This would've been picked up properly, or at least maybe a little better if Martin picked up the right man.
here's one of my favorite plays in the game -it's the play where Vance blew up Rashad Johnson(sorry Rashad...)


Ari comes with a cover-1 man while rushing 5. We're trying to run a little swing pass to Bell on this play. We keep Draughn in on a PA fake then pass pro, so Ari ends up with a 5 man rush and 1 "lurk" defender with the single safety as well. You can also see how much Ari trusts both Peterson and Mathieu in man-coverage. Rashad is nearly in a 2 deep safety help situation. He's not even in a position to help either PP or HB.


You see Bell flare out immediately and Gabbert looks his way. They want the PA and quick hitter but both defenders are reading the drop, as they've got over-the-top help. So, it's a no go on that.

Gabbert moves off that route and McD does a good job of turning Matheiu's hips and breaking inside, creating separation.


Gabbert does a great job on this play. He puts the ball with some zip, even though he can't step into the throw(I'll show that in a sec) and, with the safety bearing down on him, he throws the pass just behind McD so it slows him down, allowing him to make the catch with just enough time to brace for impact. If he leads him fully, Johnson is gonna make contact at the moment the ball arrives and it's probably an incompletion.


Here's the pocket Gabbert is throwing from. Martin get's straight man-handled. Gabbert had no room to step up into the throw and gets knocked to the ground on this play.


Vance elected to do a little bunny hop to catch the ball instead of turn around, but it's effective in slowing himself down.


BOOM!
Can't wait for more of these. My favorite! Gabbert is really going through his reads man. Loving it.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Also, Gabbet's YPA so far is 8.07 - which, among qualifying QB's, would place him as 5th in the league - just ahead of Tom Brady and behind:
1. Carson Palmer
2.Ben Roethlesberger
3. Russel Wilson
4. Andy Dalton

In contrast, CK was ranked 29th out of 32 qualifying QB's in YPA at 6.62

I had posted this info in the Gabbet but I think it's appropriate here as well.

Here is a comparison of Kap's 2015 and Gabbert's 2015 In relation to where the ball is going(deep is greater than 15 yards). I gathered the Information from the pass distance breakdowns in the box scores provided on pro-football-reference.com. There is a little more expansive breakdown within the Gabbert thread.

KAP PASS CHART
Deep total - 37.5% 567 yards 2 TD
Short total - 63.9% 1047 yards 4 tds

Offense profile
16.5 % pass attempted deep
83.5 % pass attempted short

GABBERT
Deep total - 33.3% 217 yards
Short total - 76.1% 550 yards 4 td

Offense profile
25.3 % of passes attempted deep
74.7 % of passes attempted short.

We have actually attempted more deep passes as a percentage of our attempts with Gabbert. Kap has a slight advantage on completion % deep. Gabbert has a bigger advantage on passes completed short
[ Edited by Niners816 on Dec 2, 2015 at 3:28 PM ]
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We rag on Pears all the time because he sucks, but sometimes he doesn't suck and so it's worth pointing out.

Outside zone right. ARI is in some sort of odd over front with the 3 DL shifted to the strongside. Pears is asked to perform a reach block on the DE (yellow).


Zone step right as Pears has to make up ground and reaches for the DE's outside shoulder. Need quick feet to do this. Patton cracks back on the playside OLB.


Pears continues to move while also driving his block upfield. He clearly has outside positioning and has sealed the edge.


Continue to drive on the block.


+13 yards
Beggars can't be choosers, but some more insight into some of the plays where Gabbert made some nice throws outside the pocket or the goal line stands would be interesting.

Regardless. You guys can't go wrong.
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I'll try to hit on most of the failed 3rd down attempts since the 49ers were 0 fer 9. The sack on the first possession was shown already. Here's the INT. From the TV view it may have looked like a miscommunication on the route.

49ers will run a Mesh concept (orange + purple) and an Inverted Smash concept (yellow + red)
vs Cover 1 robber (with pattern match)


The mesh concept is well defended as the robber walls off one of the crossing routes. ARI pattern matches the Inverted Smash. Normally a zone busting high-low concept, the Corner route (Patton) can also be targeted against man coverage. To run a Corner route correctly, the WR needs to break hard at a 45 degree angle (yellow arrow). Patton takes the path of the orange arrow and lazily leans into his break instead of cutting into it.


Not much separation, but a perfect pass can still hit Patton over the shoulder since Mattieu isn't a tall defender and wouldn't be able to play a well thrown pass.


The route is sloppy and the pass is underthrown. INT'ed.
Originally posted by thl408:


Stem inside, to the Corner, back to the Post. I think Gabbert did underthrow this pass. Is this his max arm strength?


I've seen him throw further than that when he was with Jacksonville, I just think that pass was just underthrown.
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From the Concepts thread. This is how a Corner route should be run - also on an Inverted Smash concept. It's not against man coverage, but notice how much break there is to the Corner route. Then compare it to how Patton ran it.

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by thl408:


Stem inside, to the Corner, back to the Post. I think Gabbert did underthrow this pass. Is this his max arm strength?


I've seen him throw further than that when he was with Jacksonville, I just think that pass was just underthrown.

Okay good. Because he also underthrew Ellington versus SEA on a deep Post - actually more of a "didn't lead enough" type of throw, similar to this one. I know arm strength is not a weakness for Gabbert, but after watching Kap be able to throw it for 60+ yards I had gotten used to it.
Originally posted by thl408:
We rag on Pears all the time because he sucks, but sometimes he doesn't suck and so it's worth pointing out.

Outside zone right. ARI is in some sort of odd over front with the 3 DL shifted to the strongside. Pears is asked to perform a reach block on the DE (yellow).


Zone step right as Pears has to make up ground and reaches for the DE's outside shoulder. Need quick feet to do this. Patton cracks back on the playside OLB.


Pears continues to move while also driving his block upfield. He clearly has outside positioning and has sealed the edge.


Continue to drive on the block.


+13 yards
It looks like an "even" alignment. Where the Dline are all on even numbered techs. Looks like it could be a 2, 4(he could be in a 3, it's kind of in between) and 6.
Originally posted by thl408:
I'll try to hit on most of the failed 3rd down attempts since the 49ers were 0 fer 9. The sack on the first possession was shown already. Here's the INT. From the TV view it may have looked like a miscommunication on the route.

49ers will run a Mesh concept (orange + purple) and an Inverted Smash concept (yellow + red)
vs Cover 1 robber (with pattern match)


The mesh concept is well defended as the robber walls off one of the crossing routes. ARI pattern matches the Inverted Smash. Normally a zone busting high-low concept, the Corner route (Patton) can also be targeted against man coverage. To run a Corner route correctly, the WR needs to break hard at a 45 degree angle (yellow arrow). Patton takes the path of the orange arrow and lazily leans into his break instead of cutting into it.


Not much separation, but a perfect pass can still hit Patton over the shoulder since Mattieu isn't a tall defender and wouldn't be able to play a well thrown pass.


The route is sloppy and the pass is underthrown. INT'ed

Man, Patton didn't even run that like a corner. It almost looks like he's running more of a seam route. As you said very sloppy.
[ Edited by Niners816 on Dec 2, 2015 at 4:46 PM ]
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Here's a nice play to exploit the hole in Cover 1 blitz. Unlike the INT play, where there is a robber over the middle area of the field (short/intermediate), there is no defender over the middle when it's Cover1 blitz (5 man rush, 5 man coverage, 1 deep safety).

Double Slants vs Cover 1 blitz
49ers will pull Boone (orange) to sell the playaction. Because they pull the playside guard, that will influence the playside LB over the middle.


5 rushers. Playaction pulls the LB (Blue) away from the double slants.


Clear throwing lane to an open area in the middle of the field.


+13 yards
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