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Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Armstead is still fighting with the lineman when the runner is ten yards behind him.

Might have been Bowman's error. Armstead had two guys tied up so Bowman could have a clean shot. Bowman went left, runner went right. If Armstead was suppose to keep crashing down then it was his error. If Bowman was suppose to read and react he erred.
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:


Odd alignment here. Bowman starts in the middle gap...Hodges outside. Both DL slant in right at the snap but then Bowman moves out left and leaves the middle gap wide open. It looks like Hodges was supposed to slide left with Bowman too and perhaps, cover the vacated middle gap for Bowman or Bowman should not have abandon his original gap. I can't tell.

This is a lot more of Mangini's scheme. You'll see DL move to another spot a second before the snap, some slant one way while the ILB's slant another, S blitz to fill another gap, etc. More designed pre and post-snap confusion. But as you can see, sometimes with the right play call, it can work against you.
[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 11, 2015 at 7:24 AM ]
Originally posted by solidg2000:
Originally posted by thl408:
Here's the 49ers longest run of the game (by a RB).

1st & 10
Power Left
Bell with the kickout (orange). Double team at the point of attack (Staley/Boone). Tiller will pull.

+7

Is it just me or was that a bad read. I think he'd have a bigger gain of he cuts it outside

Put that together with his cut to the right in heavy traffic on the goal line run - that was successful - though it's not much to go on, could it indicate that he has an inclination to cut right in tight situations?
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I wanted to show a bit more in the second half to highlight some good defensive plays, but I'll just move to the Gabbert TD run.

This is the same play as in post#30, but the play is flipped - fade/out + Trail
versus Cover1 robber


Blaine completes his drop and is looking to the Fade-Out concept. Staley engages his pass rusher., but is not head on, leaning a bit too far to his left.


Inside swim move, and Staley is beat.


Same moment in time as picture above. Boldin has yet to complete his pivot route.


Gabbert starts to escape the pocket. I have to think Staley yelled, "look out!", otherwise it was a superb display of instincts to escape the pocket when he did. At the exact same moment, the robber (blue) removes himself from the middle of the field.


The Blaine Train is on the move


Choo choo motherf**ker
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Smash Flood concept. I think CHI is in some sort of soft Cover1. They drop 8 into coverage and rush 3. Might be some distorted Cover6.
49ers will pull Tiller to help sell the playaction.


The blue CB is playing over the top on Torrey, but with plenty of time due to only 3 rushers, Gabbert will wait for the routes to fully develop.


Boldin's route is designed to go deep enough so that if CHI was in Quarters, which they might be if this is Cover6, then red will consider Boldin as "vertical", and will match Boldin in man coverage. Once Boldin pulls up on the Curl, it will draw red forward, leaving the sidelines for Torrey to work.
The blue CB still has not turned his hips upfield to run with Torrey and looks flat footed. This is the moment right before Gabbert starts his windup. Gabbert sees the positioning of the blue CB and will start his windup.


The middle safety was defending the deep middle of the field in case Torrey ran a Post, while depending on the blue CB to cover any outside breaking route. For whatever reason, the blue CB just stops running with Torrey. Perhaps because he saw Boldin pull up.


gg Bears
I remember when another labeled first round bust QB trying to resurrect his career had a nice run against an NFC central team:

Precursor? Who the hell knows, but there's never a bad time to see Steve's iconic run
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^^ That has got to be the best QB scramble for a TD in the history of ever.
Originally posted by thl408:
^^ That has got to be the best QB scramble for a TD in the history of ever.

You know it's good when you go to a search engine and type "Steve Young" and it auto fills "run vs Minnesota"
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by thl408:
^^ That has got to be the best QB scramble for a TD in the history of ever.

You know it's good when you go to a search engine and type "Steve Young" and it auto fills "run vs Minnesota"

Here's an underated Steve run vs the Lambs in 1992:

Originally posted by solidg2000:
Is it just me or was that a bad read. I think he'd have a bigger gain of he cuts it outside
Just you There are indeed some Bears on the outside.
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Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by thl408:
^^ That has got to be the best QB scramble for a TD in the history of ever.

You know it's good when you go to a search engine and type "Steve Young" and it auto fills "run vs Minnesota"

Here's an underated Steve run vs the Lambs in 1992:
Meh. Didn't exhaust the play.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by thl408:
^^ That has got to be the best QB scramble for a TD in the history of ever.

You know it's good when you go to a search engine and type "Steve Young" and it auto fills "run vs Minnesota"

Here's an underated Steve run vs the Lambs in 1992:
Meh. Didn't exhaust the play.

I'm still waiting for us to go with that split back look. Why don't teams do that anymore? Think it would work great vs umbrella defense teams.
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Originally posted by Joecool:
I'm still waiting for us to go with that split back look. Why don't teams do that anymore? Think it would work great vs umbrella defense teams.

The split backs look was mainly to get the RBs closer to the edge of the formation for passing plays - it gave them a head start in getting to the flats. This was in the 80s/early90s. Now that LBs are as fast, or faster than RBs, this is no longer a good way to get RBs into the flat. Plus it dictates your running strength - HBs aren't going to lead block for the FB. Nowadays, if an offense wants to have passing strength, just put in a slot WR, don't bother messing around with split backs.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Joecool:
I'm still waiting for us to go with that split back look. Why don't teams do that anymore? Think it would work great vs umbrella defense teams.

The split backs look was mainly to get the RBs closer to the edge of the formation for passing plays - it gave them a head start in getting to the flats. This was in the 80s/early90s. Now that LBs are as fast, or faster than RBs, this is no longer a good way to get RBs into the flat. Plus it dictates your running strength - HBs aren't going to lead block for the FB. Nowadays, if an offense wants to have passing strength, just put in a slot WR, don't bother messing around with split backs.

All this^^^^^

Also, the split backs are still around but it's just in a gun look. Also, in base personnel, you can pretty much do everything from strong and weak I's that you could've have done from horizontal stacked forms.
[ Edited by Niners816 on Dec 11, 2015 at 2:43 PM ]
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by thl408:
^^ That has got to be the best QB scramble for a TD in the history of ever.

You know it's good when you go to a search engine and type "Steve Young" and it auto fills "run vs Minnesota"

Here's an underated Steve run vs the Lambs in 1992:
Meh. Didn't exhaust the play.

Haha....had Rathman open for a 3 yard gain.
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