Week 1 2016 Rams Game coaches film analysis

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Can you guys take a look at that quick out from Gabbert to Torrey Smith, 2nd offensive play of the game. You can clearly see Smith took a couple of shuffle steps backward before catching the ball. It looks to me like that was the reason the pass ended up short. That one look like it's more on Smith to me. Had Smith stayed where he was it would have been most likely at his waist.

I think that one is still on Gabbert. It looks to me like he was more concerned with making sure it was a forward pass, which is good, then lame ducked it too much, which is bad. That ball needed a bit more on it. Luckily it was more of an issue that can be fixed rather than a scheme thing

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Can you guys take a look at that quick out from Gabbert to Torrey Smith, 2nd offensive play of the game. You can clearly see Smith took a couple of shuffle steps backward before catching the ball. It looks to me like that was the reason the pass ended up short. That one look like it's more on Smith to me. Had Smith stayed where he was it would have been most likely at his waist.

I think that one is still on Gabbert. It looks to me like he was more concerned with making sure it was a forward pass, which is good, then lame ducked it too much, which is bad. That ball needed a bit more on it. Luckily it was more of an issue that can be fixed rather than a scheme thing

He was shuffling back to the outside as he was looking at the ball coming towards him. He looked like a guy shuffling back trying to field a punt. It didn't help the situation. Actually made it worse. Almost like he misjudged the ball.

I love Robinson and can't wait to see what he can do going forward

Originally posted by BuZzB05:
You don't notice that Stanley was ready to block a defense guy coming there then us blocking 4 guys because they are work to block for protect our quarterback (Gabbert). Give him plenty time and throw to any wide receivers for forwards yards and score for TDs. I am watch the cowboys Oline had a great block and protect when I am figure out that I am intrigued and understand the football game. I want 49ers Oline can copy them cowboys Oline are great. Did you watch Cowboys Oline vs Seahawks defense at 2014 when cowboys won cuz they are great block and fight to beat on Seahawks defense.

Totally! But it appears initially to be a 3 man rush with the end showing on the RB in the flat and then to rush delayed which is what Staley is waiting for.

Either way, great pocket but great execution all around and it's obvious they really practiced this one because it is NOT easy to throw a TD in the RedZone against almost max coverage. That's a crowded field.

Johnny D! or TH

Your opinion please: Noticing DE's are flashing over to the RB often to cover the quick outlet since the DB's are busy with the WR's and the LBs are frozen with the zone read. This makes Staley just stand there and wait for that DE on a delayed rush.

How effective would a draw play or delayed run or QB draw off tackle or in between Staley and LG be in this situation?

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by thl408:

Here's a play that spreads the field. This is a variant of the Hank concept that uses three Curls and two Flat routes to place a WR at all parts of the field. This forces zone defenders to cover more area.
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+35

It's another one of those plays where he'll look really good - he's able to move through his progressions and get the ball out on time - watch his footwork, 5 steps and a hitch after the plant foot - perfect time and the hitch moves him up in the pocket just enough to help Staley out who's trying to drive Quinn past the QB. He's got great accuracy and a lot of zip on the ball - there's many QB's who don't have the quick release or arm strength to get that ball in without the corner breaking on the ball. It's just some of those other passes and things - "he's teasing me, he's teasing me!!!!" It's just that right now he's part Aaron Rodgers and part Case Keenum...

Damn, the OL blocked good on that. Wow...

OLine is nice. Kelly did a great job for that game.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Can you guys take a look at that quick out from Gabbert to Torrey Smith, 2nd offensive play of the game. You can clearly see Smith took a couple of shuffle steps backward before catching the ball. It looks to me like that was the reason the pass ended up short. That one look like it's more on Smith to me. Had Smith stayed where he was it would have been most likely at his waist.

I think that one is still on Gabbert. It looks to me like he was more concerned with making sure it was a forward pass, which is good, then lame ducked it too much, which is bad. That ball needed a bit more on it. Luckily it was more of an issue that can be fixed rather than a scheme thing

He was shuffling back to the outside as he was looking at the ball coming towards him. He looked like a guy shuffling back trying to field a punt. It didn't help the situation. Actually made it worse. Almost like he misjudged the ball.

I also think it's on Gabbert. Just a case of short hopping the throw because it wasn't thrown with enough distance. btw Cossell mentioned how the Rams were not lined up properly on the 2nd play of the game. Notice the 49ers had a favorable situation on the outside and had this pass been completed, Torrey might have a had a chance to get some RAC.


On second thought, the lone CB did a good job of edge contain and the only place for Torrey to run is back towards the middle where a bunch of defneders were rallying to the ball.

Originally posted by thl408:
I also think it's on Gabbert. Just a case of short hopping the throw because it wasn't thrown with enough distance. btw Cossell mentioned how the Rams were not lined up properly on the 2nd play of the game. Notice the 49ers had a favorable situation on the outside and had this pass been completed, Torrey might have a had a chance to get some RAC.


On second thought, the lone CB did a good job of edge contain and the only place for Torrey to run is back towards the middle where a bunch of defneders were rallying to the ball.

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I couldn't make one. Screen recording isn't free anymore with Quicktime 7. Sucks

Would love to get a breakdown on Kerley's game Monday night. He seems to be a great fit for Kelly's spread attack, and he made a bunch of great plays throughout the game. He also seemed to have a couple of communication breakdowns with Gabbert that could have resulted in INTs. I guess it is to be expected with the limited amount of reps he's had with Gabbert. How in the world does he end up with 11 targets? Were we drawing up plays for him specifically, or was he the only one getting open? And where in the world did the $10M man Torrey Smith disappear to? All I remember from him is the two dirt ball screen passes going his way.

Is Kerley the best receiving threat on the Niners moving forward? It seems after game 1 that he will be the most potent WR threat on the team.

Originally posted by Joecool:
Johnny D! or TH

Your opinion please: Noticing DE's are flashing over to the RB often to cover the quick outlet since the DB's are busy with the WR's and the LBs are frozen with the zone read. This makes Staley just stand there and wait for that DE on a delayed rush.

How effective would a draw play or delayed run or QB draw off tackle or in between Staley and LG be in this situation?

Draw plays are most effective when the DL are going all out pass rush and the LBs start their coverage drops right at the snap. In other words, they are quick to get into pass defense. In the case you mentioned, with Quinn taking wide angles on his pass rush, it can also work, but if he's only taking wide angles to flash over the RB that is running a route, well that won't happen if the RB is standing next to the QB getting ready to receive a draw.

But the reason LBs would be quick to get into their coverage drops is because they want to provide pass defense support by playing the passing lanes to WRs. If LBs are more concerned with a scrambling QB than they are with WRs trying to get open behind them, then they aren't going to be quick dropping into coverage, gaining depth, leaving the box. The way the 49ers offense was going on Monday, the Rams were probably more concerned with not letting Gabbert scramble since he got in a few successful scrambles. I know that the Rams started the game with more man coverage, then after Gabbert got in some scrambles to move the chains, Rams quickly started to show more zone looks, saving man coverage for obvious passing downs.

Originally posted by thl408:
I also think it's on Gabbert. Just a case of short hopping the throw because it wasn't thrown with enough distance. btw Cossell mentioned how the Rams were not lined up properly on the 2nd play of the game. Notice the 49ers had a favorable situation on the outside and had this pass been completed, Torrey might have a had a chance to get some RAC.


On second thought, the lone CB did a good job of edge contain and the only place for Torrey to run is back towards the middle where a bunch of defneders were rallying to the ball.

That totally seemed like Blaine tried to step avoid hitting the RB's legs there. You can see him pull his knee up high and then put his leg straight down which resulted in less power. See him try to get more forward power by lifting his back leg for a better follow through due to the short step.

The best element about all this: I see very, very few (if any?) misreads or mental mistakes by Gabbert. He noticed the mismatch on the poor throw to Torrey on the 2nd play. He noticed later when a WR wasn't being covered and they got an easy gain out of it. He's knowing where to go with the ball by reading the way the defenders align / shift. This is a REAL SOLID foundation for Kelly to build upon. Will he improve on his mechanics and consistency? Maybe, maybe not. But at least Kelly doesn't have to overcome *concepts* deficiencies as well.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Johnny D! or TH

Your opinion please: Noticing DE's are flashing over to the RB often to cover the quick outlet since the DB's are busy with the WR's and the LBs are frozen with the zone read. This makes Staley just stand there and wait for that DE on a delayed rush.

How effective would a draw play or delayed run or QB draw off tackle or in between Staley and LG be in this situation?

Draw plays are most effective when the DL are going all out pass rush and the LBs start their coverage drops right at the snap. In other words, they are quick to get into pass defense. In the case you mentioned, with Quinn taking wide angles on his pass rush, it can also work, but if he's only taking wide angles to flash over the RB that is running a route, well that won't happen if the RB is standing next to the QB getting ready to receive a draw.

But the reason LBs would be quick to get into their coverage drops is because they want to provide pass defense support by playing the passing lanes to WRs. If LBs are more concerned with a scrambling QB than they are with WRs trying to get open behind them, then they aren't going to be quick dropping into coverage, gaining depth, leaving the box. The way the 49ers offense was going on Monday, the Rams were probably more concerned with not letting Gabbert scramble since he got in a few successful scrambles. I know that the Rams started the game with more man coverage, then after Gabbert got in some scrambles to move the chains, Rams quickly started to show more zone looks, saving man coverage for obvious passing downs.

f**k, just have Staley chase down the wide DE flash on the RB, Pull the Center or RG to the left to take care of the LB and let Gabbert run right up there.

Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Would love to get a breakdown on Kerley's game Monday night. He seems to be a great fit for Kelly's spread attack, and he made a bunch of great plays throughout the game. He also seemed to have a couple of communication breakdowns with Gabbert that could have resulted in INTs. I guess it is to be expected with the limited amount of reps he's had with Gabbert. How in the world does he end up with 11 targets? Were we drawing up plays for him specifically, or was he the only one getting open? And where in the world did the $10M man Torrey Smith disappear to? All I remember from him is the two dirt ball screen passes going his way.

Is Kerley the best receiving threat on the Niners moving forward? It seems after game 1 that he will be the most potent WR threat on the team.

There were definitely plays designed to go to Kerley. The 4th down catch he made, he was the primary option on that side of the field. They ran 2 middle screens for Kerley that were not well blocked. Gabbert seems to look to him. I think this could be a testament to the role that Ellington was supposed to have in this offense. Imagine practicing in OTAs/TC with Ellington being featured, then he gets IR'ed right before the season starts and Kerley steps in. All throughout summer Gabbert was throwing to Ellington on these plays. So now the plays didn't change, but the player did. Hard to say who was at fault for the communication breakdowns.

No idea what's up with Torrey. He had what, two downfield targets (caught one, no chance on the other) and two WR screens behind the LoS? The staff needs to find a way for Gabbert to find Torrey. He needs to be a threat or else defenses will start to creep forward.