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Week 1 2016 Rams Game coaches film analysis

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  • thl408
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Originally posted by LeoWong:
Originally posted by thl408:
I think that does it. Let me know if there's a certain play you'd like to see cut up. Fun looking at a 49ers win. Let's hope there's more of it. Defense was awesome this game regardless of the lowly Rams offense is. So many Ram '3 and outs'. That was a dominating defensive performance.

Would like to see how Ronald Blair did on the few plays he was in. Thanks.

He only had 7 defensive snaps and the only one I noticed him in was when he was unblocked and pressured Keenum. Doesn't mean he did good/bad, just didn't notice him on the other 6 snaps. Pretty sure he was playing DT most of the time, not as an edge rusher.

Did Streater play at all and if so, what was his role?
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by thl408:
I also think it's on Gabbert. Just a case of short hopping the throw because it wasn't thrown with enough distance. btw Cossell mentioned how the Rams were not lined up properly on the 2nd play of the game. Notice the 49ers had a favorable situation on the outside and had this pass been completed, Torrey might have a had a chance to get some RAC.


On second thought, the lone CB did a good job of edge contain and the only place for Torrey to run is back towards the middle where a bunch of defneders were rallying to the ball.

That totally seemed like Blaine tried to step avoid hitting the RB's legs there. You can see him pull his knee up high and then put his leg straight down which resulted in less power. See him try to get more forward power by lifting his back leg for a better follow through due to the short step.

Why are you making excuses for him dirt balling it?

He shouldn't have even thrown to that side. He's on the left hash and has a quicker shorter throw to the left to the wife open WR. Plus the defender on that side bites on the RB.
Thank you JD and THL for all your time making this thread. I can't say enough about how much I enjoy it. THL can you post a GIf of the supposed missed TD pass to Kerley early in the game, I think he was running a deep cross or post and Gabbert just put too much on it. I know Steve young mentioned it should of been a TD but I was curious what the coverage was and if it was just a terrible throw or maybe Kerley ran his route to shallow, just curious as to how 'open' Kerley actually was. Thank you guys again!
Originally posted by SoCold:
Why are you making excuses for him dirt balling it?

He shouldn't have even thrown to that side. He's on the left hash and has a quicker shorter throw to the left to the wife open WR. Plus the defender on that side bites on the RB.

When you have one CB covering two WRs you absolutely throw in that direction.
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by thl408:
I also think it's on Gabbert. Just a case of short hopping the throw because it wasn't thrown with enough distance. btw Cossell mentioned how the Rams were not lined up properly on the 2nd play of the game. Notice the 49ers had a favorable situation on the outside and had this pass been completed, Torrey might have a had a chance to get some RAC.


On second thought, the lone CB did a good job of edge contain and the only place for Torrey to run is back towards the middle where a bunch of defneders were rallying to the ball.

That totally seemed like Blaine tried to step avoid hitting the RB's legs there. You can see him pull his knee up high and then put his leg straight down which resulted in less power. See him try to get more forward power by lifting his back leg for a better follow through due to the short step.

Why are you making excuses for him dirt balling it?

He shouldn't have even thrown to that side. He's on the left hash and has a quicker shorter throw to the left to the wife open WR. Plus the defender on that side bites on the RB.

Also if that's a designed play to be thrown on that side it's horrible. I'm going to hope Blaine just forgot how to QB on that one.

The LDE and LOLB are both left unblocked on the play. They are the first ones to the ball. Is the WR supposed to block 3 guys at the same time?!?

The MLB and ROLB both bite on the RB plus the entire OL blocks short side. That leaves a one on one block for the WR on CB to the other side (short side) of the field. That's should be a completion and easy first down run down the sideline.
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Why are you making excuses for him dirt balling it?

He shouldn't have even thrown to that side. He's on the left hash and has a quicker shorter throw to the left to the wife open WR. Plus the defender on that side bites on the RB.

When you have one CB covering two WRs you absolutely throw in that direction.

should have gone to the other side where there was also 1 CB covering 2 WR
lol
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Originally posted by Luckycharms:
Thank you JD and THL for all your time making this thread. I can't say enough about how much I enjoy it. THL can you post a GIf of the supposed missed TD pass to Kerley early in the game, I think he was running a deep cross or post and Gabbert just put too much on it. I know Steve young mentioned it should of been a TD but I was curious what the coverage was and if it was just a terrible throw or maybe Kerley ran his route to shallow, just curious as to how 'open' Kerley actually was. Thank you guys again!

To Gabbert's left is Patton and Kerley running a Double Post concept. When the boundary safety (safety on short side) sees Torrey down the sideline, he moves over to cover Torrey. That exposes the seam down the middle of the field.
vs Cover2 Zone




Good job by Gabbert to move that safety by looking at Torrey first. But no need to rush this throw. Clean pocket. Large window to complete the pass.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Would love to get a breakdown on Kerley's game Monday night. He seems to be a great fit for Kelly's spread attack, and he made a bunch of great plays throughout the game. He also seemed to have a couple of communication breakdowns with Gabbert that could have resulted in INTs. I guess it is to be expected with the limited amount of reps he's had with Gabbert. How in the world does he end up with 11 targets? Were we drawing up plays for him specifically, or was he the only one getting open? And where in the world did the $10M man Torrey Smith disappear to? All I remember from him is the two dirt ball screen passes going his way.

Is Kerley the best receiving threat on the Niners moving forward? It seems after game 1 that he will be the most potent WR threat on the team.
There were definitely plays designed to go to Kerley. The 4th down catch he made, he was the primary option on that side of the field. They ran 2 middle screens for Kerley that were not well blocked. Gabbert seems to look to him. I think this could be a testament to the role that Ellington was supposed to have in this offense. Imagine practicing in OTAs/TC with Ellington being featured, then he gets IR'ed right before the season starts and Kerley steps in. All throughout summer Gabbert was throwing to Ellington on these plays. So now the plays didn't change, but the player did. Hard to say who was at fault for the communication breakdowns.

No idea what's up with Torrey. He had what, two downfield targets (caught one, no chance on the other) and two WR screens behind the LoS? The staff needs to find a way for Gabbert to find Torrey. He needs to be a threat or else defenses will start to creep forward.

Torrey did also have the drop on a crossing pattern in the red zone too, so 5 total targets. To me, in 35 passes he should have at least 8-9. But, coverage also dictates where the ball goes, like TO catching 20 balls on Jerry Rice day...
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Why are you making excuses for him dirt balling it?

He shouldn't have even thrown to that side. He's on the left hash and has a quicker shorter throw to the left to the wife open WR. Plus the defender on that side bites on the RB.

When you have one CB covering two WRs you absolutely throw in that direction.

should have gone to the other side where there was also 1 CB covering 2 WR
lol

And made an executive decision to NOT play fake. Just get the ball to the top side WR.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Could it be that Gabbert isn't used to having time? I recall SY taking some time to getting used to not running, that he could trust the play and his protection. I'm hoping coaching can help him understand that he has help and doesn't need to rush critical plays like this.

This one is 90% on Gabbert not setting properly and rushing the throw, causing it to sail, but I gotta think that Kerley only being with the team 2 weeks contributed to the overthrow to some degree. There's a reason QB/WR combos need practice time together.
[ Edited by captveg on Sep 15, 2016 at 1:06 PM ]
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Luckycharms:
Thank you JD and THL for all your time making this thread. I can't say enough about how much I enjoy it. THL can you post a GIf of the supposed missed TD pass to Kerley early in the game, I think he was running a deep cross or post and Gabbert just put too much on it. I know Steve young mentioned it should of been a TD but I was curious what the coverage was and if it was just a terrible throw or maybe Kerley ran his route to shallow, just curious as to how 'open' Kerley actually was. Thank you guys again!

To Gabbert's left is Patton and Kerley running a Double Post concept. When the boundary safety (safety on short side) sees Torrey down the sideline, he moves over to cover Torrey. That exposes the seam down the middle of the field.
vs Cover2 Zone




Good job by Gabbert to move that safety by looking at Torrey first. But no need to rush this throw. Clean pocket. Large window to complete the pass.

It's a situation where he has to trust what his eyes have done, move the safety. With the safety moved, he doesn't have to laser it in. He overthrows because he's trying to get it over the lb and rushed everything.

This is a big boy throw, one where if you put some touch on it, you'll look next level good.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Why are you making excuses for him dirt balling it?

He shouldn't have even thrown to that side. He's on the left hash and has a quicker shorter throw to the left to the wife open WR. Plus the defender on that side bites on the RB.

When you have one CB covering two WRs you absolutely throw in that direction.

should have gone to the other side where there was also 1 CB covering 2 WR
lol

And made an executive decision to NOT play fake. Just get the ball to the top side WR.

Well that was extremely dumb choice.

he had RB on LB and WR on CB to the short side with no one else to stop the play
vs
WR on CB/DE/LB and two guys left wide open to stop the play

dumb
Originally posted by jonnydel:
It's a situation where he has to trust what his eyes have done, move the safety. With the safety moved, he doesn't have to laser it in. He overthrows because he's trying to get it over the lb and rushed everything.

This is a big boy throw, one where if you put some touch on it, you'll look next level good.

Look at that pass pro too. Gigantic throwing lane right in front of him, he had all the time and pocket space in the world.

Steve Young made an interesting comment in his KNBR interview. I'm paraphrasing here, but he said QBs do this when they are fearful of their ball staying in the air for too long. They think something bad is going to happen, so he wants to laser it and get it over with. Patience, poise, confidence are hard skills to learn.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Luckycharms:
Thank you JD and THL for all your time making this thread. I can't say enough about how much I enjoy it. THL can you post a GIf of the supposed missed TD pass to Kerley early in the game, I think he was running a deep cross or post and Gabbert just put too much on it. I know Steve young mentioned it should of been a TD but I was curious what the coverage was and if it was just a terrible throw or maybe Kerley ran his route to shallow, just curious as to how 'open' Kerley actually was. Thank you guys again!

To Gabbert's left is Patton and Kerley running a Double Post concept. When the boundary safety (safety on short side) sees Torrey down the sideline, he moves over to cover Torrey. That exposes the seam down the middle of the field.
vs Cover2 Zone




Good job by Gabbert to move that safety by looking at Torrey first. But no need to rush this throw. Clean pocket. Large window to complete the pass.

It's a situation where he has to trust what his eyes have done, move the safety. With the safety moved, he doesn't have to laser it in. He overthrows because he's trying to get it over the lb and rushed everything.

This is a big boy throw, one where if you put some touch on it, you'll look next level good.

Damn that should've been 6
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