Week 1 2016 Rams Game coaches film analysis

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Luckycharms:

Thank you JD and THL for all your time making this thread. I can't say enough about how much I enjoy it. THL can you post a GIf of the supposed missed TD pass to Kerley early in the game, I think he was running a deep cross or post and Gabbert just put too much on it. I know Steve young mentioned it should of been a TD but I was curious what the coverage was and if it was just a terrible throw or maybe Kerley ran his route to shallow, just curious as to how 'open' Kerley actually was. Thank you guys again!

To Gabbert's left is Patton and Kerley running a Double Post concept. When the boundary safety (safety on short side) sees Torrey down the sideline, he moves over to cover Torrey. That exposes the seam down the middle of the field.
vs Cover2 Zone




Good job by Gabbert to move that safety by looking at Torrey first. But no need to rush this throw. Clean pocket. Large window to complete the pass.

It's a situation where he has to trust what his eyes have done, move the safety. With the safety moved, he doesn't have to laser it in. He overthrows because he's trying to get it over the lb and rushed everything.

This is a big boy throw, one where if you put some touch on it, you'll look next level good.

Originally posted by eforbes12:
Gabbert pulled the "locking the plant leg" mechanics issue that Alex smith famously had. This is what frustrates me about gabbert. His mechanical mistakes seem to change from play to play. I just don't know how to get a beat on them

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by eforbes12:
Gabbert pulled the "locking the plant leg" mechanics issue that Alex smith famously had. This is what frustrates me about gabbert. His mechanical mistakes seem to change from play to play. I just don't know how to get a beat on them

Part of the reason why he was such a project coming out of college, and the Jags made a big mistake playing him right away.

His skill set screams pro-style QB, but the film shows a player that needs a lot of refinement to his game. He didn't get a shot at developing his first 3 years in the league, he was setup to fail, so he's behind. Still has youth on his side tho, only 26 y/o.

He's got improve on his lower body mechanics though, much of his accuracy issues are do to that.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Not impressed with the Jaguars coaching circus over the past five years! If Kelly can work his magic perhaps both Gabbert and Kaepernick will reach their potential.

Originally posted by Niners816:
Chip broke down this concept on that video above. Here is actually how he drew it up:

Now it's a flipped formation(TE runs flat for us....it was a slot WR to the flat on they philly example)as to how we ran it on the play in question, but that second route from the top is called by him a deep drag route. From top to bottom of the screen it's Deep post, Deep Drag, flat route and fly. The back gets a fake and goes to the opposite flat.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by bzborow1:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Hey THL. I was looking at this and was wondering if there is any chance kerley was suppsed to cut up to the post instead of going to the pylon. Gabbert threw the ball straight up the hashes. You would think he could hit that throw easily. It just looked off.

his feet look off. look at his feet as he's throwing it. not underneath him at all it looks like.

Yes, too bad because he set up that throw beautifully with his eyes only to miss it.

Already seeing a pattern here with him though. He seems to always go to the middle/slot even though he looks to the WR's and the WRs are NFL open.

I have a feeling CAR won't respect the WR's and overplay the hash marks. They may get one from that until Gabbert adjusts.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by thl408:
I don't think Patton was ever a poor route runner. He's always had good burst and some shake to him. His biggest problem imo is he can't fight off bump and run and gets rerouted easily when CBs get physical at the LoS. When he's given a free release, he's quick and fast enough to get separation.

This...he's always been a smooth route runner but like you said he has issues getting off the line with the bigger CBs. Needs to get a little stronger.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by thl408:
I don't think Patton was ever a poor route runner. He's always had good burst and some shake to him. His biggest problem imo is he can't fight off bump and run and gets rerouted easily when CBs get physical at the LoS. When he's given a free release, he's quick and fast enough to get separation.

This...he's always been a smooth route runner but like you said he has issues getting off the line with the bigger CBs. Needs to get a little stronger.

He's not quick or fast either. I actually think he'd be a really good slot WR b/c he has that feel in holes. But he's not fast enough outside to back CB's off and command a S over the top "just in case" and he's not quick enough or strong enough to beat jam press often. He's like the Tank Carradine of WR's.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Nice route by patton there. Shook that dude. Looks like his route running has improved.

yea, took him having real coaching to do so....

Fixed this for you.

I don't think Patton was ever a poor route runner. He's always had good burst and some shake to him. His biggest problem imo is he can't fight off bump and run and gets rerouted easily when CBs get physical at the LoS. When he's given a free release, he's quick and fast enough to get separation.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Nice route by patton there. Shook that dude. Looks like his route running has improved.

yea, took him having real coaching to do so....

Fixed this for you.

I don't think Patton was ever a poor route runner. He's always had good burst and some shake to him. His biggest problem imo is he can't fight off bump and run and gets rerouted easily when CBs get physical at the LoS. When he's given a free release, he's quick and fast enough to get separation.

I guess i consider that as part of route running but I see how fighting off a DB is a different thing.

Also, if you recall we talked last season about how he was dropping his hands when he was stopping which was a tell to the DB that a player is stopping. I also considered that to be poor route running.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by thl408:
I don't think Patton was ever a poor route runner. He's always had good burst and some shake to him. His biggest problem imo is he can't fight off bump and run and gets rerouted easily when CBs get physical at the LoS. When he's given a free release, he's quick and fast enough to get separation.

This...he's always been a smooth route runner but like you said he has issues getting off the line with the bigger CBs. Needs to get a little stronger.

He's not quick or fast either. I actually think he'd be a really good slot WR b/c he has that feel in holes. But he's not fast enough outside to back CB's off and command a S over the top "just in case" and he's not quick enough or strong enough to beat jam press often. He's like the Tank Carradine of WR's.

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Maybe he's just now hitting his stride putting it all together from all the different WR coaches he's had.. Harbaugh and Kelly now.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Nice route by patton there. Shook that dude. Looks like his route running has improved.

yea, took him having real coaching to do so....

Fixed this for you.

I don't think Patton was ever a poor route runner. He's always had good burst and some shake to him. His biggest problem imo is he can't fight off bump and run and gets rerouted easily when CBs get physical at the LoS. When he's given a free release, he's quick and fast enough to get separation.

I guess i consider that as part of route running but I see how fighting off a DB is a different thing.

Also, if you recall we talked last season about how he was dropping his hands when he was stopping which was a tell to the DB that a player is stopping. I also considered that to be poor route running.

Originally posted by thl408:
No idea what's up with Torrey. He had what, two downfield targets (caught one, no chance on the other) and two WR screens behind the LoS? The staff needs to find a way for Gabbert to find Torrey. He needs to be a threat or else defenses will start to creep forward.