Week 1 2016 Rams Game coaches film analysis

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by Buchy:

Any chance you guys can post a breakdown of any plays that are not considered typical Chip Kelly offense? I think I saw someone posting on twitter that he had never seen Chip run the play that Hyde scored his first TD on, just curious if there are any more examples of plays that show Chip is developing his offense.

Ooooh, that's a hard one. I don't have my Kelly playbook in front of me(the one that I diagrammed out in the off-season, though it wasn't exhaustive). So, I can't really say. That play though, has been around the NFL for a long time. It's just a zone split or counter run. If you play Madden 17 or even 16, you can see the play art under, "inside zone-split"



Here it is in Madden - they don't draw the RB, coming back, but with an inside zone, it's up the RB to find the hole.


Here's an instance of the Packers running the same play - it's been in the league for a while. It was either Holmgren or Shanny that first ran it IIRC.

Here is the TD run. There's some Counter action going on here.

Tiller with the kickout block on the force defender. Celek is actually leading through the hole, except he ends up just removing the defender from the hole completely. This play is more similar to the Redskins old school Counter Trey than it is Split zone imo.


This is Counter Trey how the 80s Redskins did it with two backside OL pulling. What the 49ers did above was pull two backside blockers - one OG + one TE.


This is split zone. Inside zone blocking with a pulling TE (VD) to execute the kickout block. I know it looks similar but just a subtle change regarding who is executing the kickout block can change the blocking scheme.

I think Kelly threw a curve here. I don't remember seeing him do any counter trey stuff and I've seen other guys who studies his offense say the same thing.

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by susweel:
Are all of Chip's plays out of the shotgun ? I don't think I noticed any plays from center.

I profiled his offense over his Philly career and he was about 90-95% out of the gun.

There were plays from under center in PHI but yeah it's an oddity. This is from 2015.

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Damn, Staley was a beast blocking down the field. check him out on the TD blocking the safety

Celek also with a huge block on that play, and a pull by the RG s well. oh and LG too

4awesome blocks = TD

That's a LB that he's blocking, Alec Ogletree.

Originally posted by thl408:


Pass is well placed to the inside of Kerley. +18

I originally thought this was bad ball placement, but it looks like a timing/route issue. Kerley sits coming out of his break and it looks like Gabbert expected him to accelerate.

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by Buchy:
Any chance you guys can post a breakdown of any plays that are not considered typical Chip Kelly offense? I think I saw someone posting on twitter that he had never seen Chip run the play that Hyde scored his first TD on, just curious if there are any more examples of plays that show Chip is developing his offense.

Ooooh, that's a hard one. I don't have my Kelly playbook in front of me(the one that I diagrammed out in the off-season, though it wasn't exhaustive). So, I can't really say. That play though, has been around the NFL for a long time. It's just a zone split or counter run. If you play Madden 17 or even 16, you can see the play art under, "inside zone-split"


Here it is in Madden - they don't draw the RB, coming back, but with an inside zone, it's up the RB to find the hole.


Here's an instance of the Packers running the same play - it's been in the league for a while. It was either Holmgren or Shanny that first ran it IIRC.

Here is the TD run. There's some Counter action going on here.

Tiller with the kickout block on the force defender. Celek is actually leading through the hole, except he ends up just removing the defender from the hole completely. This play is more similar to the Redskins old school Counter Trey than it is Split zone imo.


This is Counter Trey how the 80s Redskins did it with two backside OL pulling. What the 49ers did above was pull two backside blockers - one OG + one TE.


This is split zone. Inside zone blocking with a pulling TE (VD) to execute the kickout block. I know it looks similar but just a subtle change regarding who is executing the kickout block can change the blocking scheme.

I think Kelly threw a curve here. I don't remember seeing him do any counter trey stuff and I've seen other guys who studies his offense say the same thing.

Beautiful footwork by Brown is beautiful.

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by susweel:
Are all of Chip's plays out of the shotgun ? I don't think I noticed any plays from center.

I profiled his offense over his Philly career and he was about 90-95% out of the gun.

It's what sets up that zone-read. Can't do it from under center and Kelly always wants the threat of that zone-read for the defense to consider.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Great stuff jonnydel!

Most excited about the play of the lines. We can be competitive in every game if we're solid in the trenches.

Excited about O'Neil's defense moving forward. It's just one game and offenses will adjust, but he's got some cool ideas using a deep rotation and varied play-calling to put players in a position to succeed.

Gabbert is extremely frustrating to watch, because he looks like the prototype QB. But man, his accuracy issues are dumbfounding. Does he have "it"? I don't know, but I'm inclined to say no. He's still a very young player by QB standards and is in an offense that best suits his skills. So he has a chance, and I'll give him time to develop. But some of his miscues are truly inexcusable.

Agreed. Very good post. The O-line & D-lines have me very excited to watch this team every week

Thank you for everything you do on the webzone. Look forward to your threads after every game!

This play is on the drive that ended with the Bow INT. Forgot to show it earlier. It was tied for the longest pass play of the day for the Rams and is another example of a mix up in coverage.

Daggers concept vs Cover1?
The red Go route is to clear the middle of the field and occupy the deep safety so that the Dig (yellow) can work.


Not sure what is supposed to happen but when the Dig breaks inwards, Brock continues to bail as if he was playing Cover3. Reid has matched the slot's Go route so Reid isn't going to cover the Dig either.


+22

Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
I originally thought this was bad ball placement, but it looks like a timing/route issue. Kerley sits coming out of his break and it looks like Gabbert expected him to accelerate.

It sure does look like Kerley holds up for a split second and that's what forced him to have to dive for the catch.

Originally posted by thl408:
This play is on the drive that ended with the Bow INT. Forgot to show it earlier. It was tied for the longest pass play of the day for the Rams and is another example of a mix up in coverage.

Daggers concept vs Cover1?
The red Go route is to clear the middle of the field and occupy the deep safety so that the Dig (yellow) can work.


Not sure what is supposed to happen but when the Dig breaks inwards, Brock continues to bail as if he was playing Cover3. Reid has matched the slot's Go route so Reid isn't going to cover the Dig either.


+22

It looks like a cover 3 match "liz" where the middle hook/curl defender is supposed to carry a vertical release. I think we just got out-schemed on this one. This is one play that Mike Martz used to run vs Tenn when Fisher was the coach in the SB, it works really well to beat that match cover 3 where the inside defender carries the inside vertical release.



This is near identical to how we play that defense.

How did Harold and Tank look after watching the tape? I really didn't see much from either out

After the conversion on 4th down, the 49ers would end up scoring on a 3 yard Draughn run. The Rams end up punting on their ensuing drive. This is from the next 49er's drive.
One more mention of the Fade/Out concept. This time facing man coverage. Exact same route combination as in post #38. After Kerley motions and has a CB follow him, Gabbert confirms man coverage.
vs Cover2 Man


Patton's Fade clears the area for Kerley to work. Kerley's route also benefited from a partial pick from the TE. Gabbert mid windup.


The pass leads Kerley safely towards the sideline for +10. Draughn would fumble on the next play killing this drive.

Originally posted by JamesGatz83:

Originally posted by thl408:


Pass is well placed to the inside of Kerley. +18

I originally thought this was bad ball placement, but it looks like a timing/route issue. Kerley sits coming out of his break and it looks like Gabbert expected him to accelerate.

On the next drive, we run a pass out of the same formation with a very similar read to it



Same formation as above, this time we'll run a super short curl with Patton and a streak from McD. On the top, we'll run a "divide" concept with Torrey running a streak and Kerley running a deep slant/shallow post. The read is pretty much the same. You have a streak from T. Smith with an inside route shorter from Kerley


LA is in cover -1 man


The safety has over-the top help on T. Smith, the other 2 guys are covered, so it's up to Kerley to beat his man-coverage. Though, after just getting beat from an in-breaking route on the previous drive, the DB is ready for it.


Aaron Donald pancakes Beadles and with Donald bearing down Gabs tries to get it into Kerley as on the previous drive. However, this time the DB is ready for the in-breaking route and jumps the route. It's nearly picked, but Donald gets flagged for roughing the passer.

To me, the two plays were too similar too soon in succession. These defenders are too good not to pick up on things like that - especially after giving up a 17 yard gain.

Originally posted by lamontb:
How did Harold and Tank look after watching the tape? I really didn't see much from either out

Solid games. Nothing spectacular from either one, but they looked solid. Carradine held up containment well a few times, same with Harold. Neither got amazing pressure on passing plays, but it wasn't too needed either.