2016 Week 2 Carolina Panthers coaches film analysis

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

RAC is the important part there. Blaine throwing these short passes into the dirt do nothing to put the receiver in a position to get any extra yards.

It's a mindset of exhausting the entire concept. That was Walsh's secret. For the play above, it's true that this was a 3rd and situation and rightly the play called had two outs threatening the sticks and another vertical route in the middle. However, I want a QB to be comfortable enough in the offense that if his reads take him to the checkdown because he's redlighted the initial reads he does this. If you fully buy into this it greatly increases the efficiency of your offense. For the play above, if he does this it probably results in either a 1st down or a really short 4th down situation.

Originally posted by thl408:
Here's the big Olsen TD that made the euphoria from the Torrey TD short lived. The way Olsen stems outside makes his route work.
vs Quarters


By stemming outside, Olsen avoids a reroute from Bow (MLB) as most underneath defenders will attempt a re-route of any vertical routes that go by them to help out their safeties. Don't want a route with a full head of steam coming at the safety, which is exactly what happens here.
*sidenote: In this frame, Bow matches the crossing route, evidence of pattern matching.


Either Bethea thought Olsen was going to run a different route, or he expected some form of help to the inside. He should not have expected help to the inside.

Chip and O'Neal have said that almost every time Olson runs a corner route where Bethea guessed. The team drilled it all week and that Bethea just took a chance on what he studied.

THAT being said, do yall think that Olson was running an option route all this time? Or they added it in for this week or recently. Basing it off Bethea's positioning?

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by thl408:

Here is the first Out route that resulted in an incompletion.
When trying to connect on an Out route, the WR tries to sell the Go route, and as soon as the CB turns his hips upfield, break the route for the Out (Comeback). The QB has to identify if the CB is going to turn his hips upfield. Looking at this presnap alignment, which CB is more likely to turn his hips upfield as the WR runs vertical - the CB lined up over red or yellow?
vs Cover3


Gabbert takes the snap and looks to his right. The CB (red) is flat footed and watching. The other CB (yellow) has his hips turned upfield and is much more vulnerable to a comeback type of route. Gabbert targets Burbridge (red). I don't expect Gabbert to move his eyes to the other side of the field and see the other Out route, I expect him to never even look to his right because the positioning of the CB defeats an Out route.


Such a small window and a dangerous throw with the CB never having to turn upfield because he was giving a huge cushion presnap.

Boy, look at how wide open the TE comes after the delay. Would have been nice if Blaine would have redlighted that Out and checked it down to the TE (Can't tell if it Vance, Celek or Bell)

That's a clean pocket. Had he gone through his progressions, he would have seen the TE wide open.

Originally posted by thl408:
I know jonnydel broke this play down, but I also had it cut up and wanted to show how it was a very good route combination given the coverage call and how Gabbert didn't give this play a chance.

CAR shows pressure presnap, but will back off at the snap to play Cover 2 Zone. It looks odd because it's in the red zone and everything is condensed, but it is Cover 2 Zone. The two "deep" safeties are highlighted in blue.
The yellow, orange, and green routes are designed to bust two Cover2 safeties with a horizontal stretch. As the play unfolds, jonny showed how Patton came open.


Gabbert looks to the Smash and it's covered. His next progression should be to move to his left. If the safety covers the Corner (yellow), then who is covering Patton? It's not the other safety because the other safety is covering the green route. It's basically three routes attacking two defenders. Since none of the LBs in the middle of the field gain depth, Patton is uncovered.


Gabbert has a nice pocket but hears ghost and bails out of the pocket for no reason. The moment Patton puts his arm in the air to say "I'm open" is the exact moment Gabbert starts to evade phantom pressure. If Gabbert sticks to his progression, there is a window to hit Patton. That's as big a window as you're going to get versus CAR zone coverage in the red zone.


Gabbert sees dead people.


Could have had a TD to open the game.

Hi guys never miss this thread and think I have seen enough to comment.
The bloke running the yellow (corner?) route does not complete his route, there is another 10 yards to the sideline of the end zone but he ends up taking the safety towards Patton. I know the QB is leaving the pocket but he doesn't know what the QB is thinking now and his unfinished route could be destroying another option.
Many times a WR's route is only a decoy for opening another option they need to stay sharp and keep their route running sharp so as not to f**k up others.

Originally posted by matguy87:

Yes! Exactly, for all his faults Gabbert is a big reason there have only been 2 sacks this year. I saw that in the Rams game too. There were a hand full of times were the o-line was beaten quickly and if Gabbert had waited a quarter of a second later to throw, it would have been a sack.

This is also a product of the front 7s we were playing AND the game plan to combat it. It'll be the same against Seattle as well.

This is the first play of the 2nd half. When using RPOs there are false reads that a defense can give the QB to trick him into doing what the defense wants him to do. Here, CAR shows 6 in the box compared to the 49ers 6 blockers on the LoS. Chip will want to run all day against this.

But at the snap, blue safety comes flying down to provide the 7th man in the box.


There are also tricks being done with gap exchanges that can trick the blocking assignments. This is an overshift of the 4 DLmen. Meaning the 1tech is on the weakside A gap of the center. The letters denote the typical gap responsibilities. Where the DLman is lined up is probably the gap he is responsible for. Nope. Notice Charles Johnson (red) pointing to his left. He is reminding his safety of what to do.


This is the real gap responsibilities. The "Nut stunt" was mentioned in last week's film thread as a way to combat the inside zone run. Here, Star Loutoulou (sp) will execute the nut stunt, which is an exchange of A gap responsibility, done to confuse the center.


Charles Johnson attack the inside shoulder of Trent Brown to attack the B gap as the safety comes down to fill the C gap. Star Loulou swim moves into the adjacent A gap that he was originally lined up in.


Kilgore pancakes himself and it's a mess inside with a clean Luke Keuchly watching and waiting to clean up.


+2. Safeties as part of the run fit coupled with stunts can stuff run plays.

This was a play that had to be looked at again because it was hard to believe.First possession of 2nd half. 3rd & 8.

Gabbert sees that with a 3 blockers vs 2 CBs advantage, a RB screen will work. Makes sense. CAR shows blitz but will rush 3 with reds dropping off.


Maybe WRs should block on a screen pass.

No way that's a screen pass

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
No way that's a screen pass

No way that's a checkdown

After the 49er punt, CAR faces a 3rd down on their drive. This is the Reaser illegal contact penalty that they never showed on TV.



8 in coverage. Benjamin runs right into Reaser who barely moved postsnap.


That's not a penalty. The drive should have ended.

Ward with outside shade on Benjamin. He will be bracketed with Bethea on the inside.



This is when Ward gives up outside positioning. Bethea is now of no help.


Gave attention to the correct target in the passing game and still gave up a TD.

Originally posted by thl408:
This was a play that had to be looked at again because it was hard to believe.First possession of 2nd half. 3rd & 8.

Gabbert sees that with a 3 blockers vs 2 CBs advantage, a RB screen will work. Makes sense. CAR shows blitz but will rush 3 with reds dropping off.


Maybe WRs should block on a screen pass.

That is an odd play. When I saw it live, my initial reaction was to question why the heck Gabbert would checkdown on 3rd & 8.

Looking at it on the all-22, I think you're probably right in that the WRs blew the blocking assignment. Playcall was probably a RB screen.

Originally posted by SofaKing:
That is an odd play. When I saw it live, my initial reaction was to question why the heck Gabbert would checkdown on 3rd & 8.

Looking at it on the all-22, I think you're probably right in that the WRs blew the blocking assignment. Playcall was probably a RB screen.

I know his rep is of checking down too early but this is ridiculously early. I want to believe that it was a busted screen. "3 man rush. Checkdown now!"

This play started the comeback that wasn't. 3rd & 2. Cover1

Haha

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by SofaKing:
That is an odd play. When I saw it live, my initial reaction was to question why the heck Gabbert would checkdown on 3rd & 8.

Looking at it on the all-22, I think you're probably right in that the WRs blew the blocking assignment. Playcall was probably a RB screen.

I know his rep is of checking down too early but this is ridiculously early. I want to believe that it was a busted screen. "3 man rush. Checkdown now!"

Yup, otherwise the play design doesn't make much sense. Had the WRs blocked he may have had enough space to pick up the 1st.