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Sep 30, 2016 at 12:04 PM
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please explain why he didn't throw to blake bell here

Sep 30, 2016 at 12:21 PM
Originally posted by miked1978:
So in other words, we suck at just about everything.

We suck, we suck, we really really suck!
Sep 30, 2016 at 12:43 PM
Originally posted by DRnSFw:
please explain why he didn't throw to blake bell here


Looks like he still doesn't trust his OL. Waaaaaaaay to jittery and quick to pull the trigger.

Phoenix, Gabs is waaaaaay to jumpy here. It's one thing to patter but he jumps like he thinks he should be ready to flee. SMH

Also, the reason for not seeing the TE, you can tell he is looking for receivers and not reading the defense. His key should have been the ILB. The instant that LB even takes one step to the cross, he should blindly throw to the TE. SMH.
[ Edited by Joecool on Sep 30, 2016 at 12:47 PM ]
Sep 30, 2016 at 12:57 PM
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by DRnSFw:
please explain why he didn't throw to blake bell here


Looks like he still doesn't trust his OL. Waaaaaaaay to jittery and quick to pull the trigger.

Phoenix, Gabs is waaaaaay to jumpy here. It's one thing to patter but he jumps like he thinks he should be ready to flee. SMH

Also, the reason for not seeing the TE, you can tell he is looking for receivers and not reading the defense. His key should have been the ILB. The instant that LB even takes one step to the cross, he should blindly throw to the TE. SMH.

I thought this is what QBs are taught what to do.... They know where their receivers are going to be (know the play design duh right?) and focus on the defense... in this case the ILB.

heck he could've stepped up and ran a few steps (to threat a run) to get the ILB, to commit more to his side.. to make sure Bell was going to be open, and tossed it for an easy conversion.
[ Edited by Afrikan on Sep 30, 2016 at 12:58 PM ]
Sep 30, 2016 at 1:02 PM
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by 49erphan:
If you have the time and inclination, could you break down the 9ers offenses' "second and six" play on the second offensive series of the first quarter? It looks to me like a read option where Gabbert hands off to Hyde but it seems like Gabbert should have kept it.

Normally, the zone read will read the DE, but the way SEA lines up Bennett (Staley's inside shoulder) prevents Bennett from being the unblocked key defender to read. Because of this alignment, Staley is forced to block Bennett, otherwise Bennett will just fly in a blow up the mesh point since he's so close to the QB/RB.


Read KJ Wright. By doing this small teak to the DL alignment, it changes the blocking assignments and changes who the read defender is. Now, if Gabbert keeps, he isn't on the edge 1v1 with a DE, he's 1v1 versus a LB (more athletic than a DE).


Same moment in time as above. Gabbert can go 1v1 against KJ Wright if he chooses to, although there's a second LB that's also clean.


+3. Maybe the QB keeper gets more yards, but it's not a definite imo.

What interesting is only one side of line shifts just prior to snap and it appears to be based on where the RB is positioned at snap. How do you counter that? Because it's not going to change until the do.

On the flip side, SF doesn't have to play Seattle's defense every week so that should be an improvement right there. It's remarkable actually how on virtually every play you've posted the LB's hold for a second in a spy type of position waiting for a gap.

Seems to me we're right back where we have been on offense for years. The defense can do this type of stuff because we don't have the QB nor the WR's to push the ball in the passing game.
[ Edited by bzborow1 on Sep 30, 2016 at 1:04 PM ]
Sep 30, 2016 at 1:05 PM
Originally posted by Joecool:
Looks like he still doesn't trust his OL. Waaaaaaaay to jittery and quick to pull the trigger.

Phoenix, Gabs is waaaaaay to jumpy here. It's one thing to patter but he jumps like he thinks he should be ready to flee. SMH

Also, the reason for not seeing the TE, you can tell he is looking for receivers and not reading the defense. His key should have been the ILB. The instant that LB even takes one step to the cross, he should blindly throw to the TE. SMH.

He should be. Stanley whiffed on a stunt. Only saved it with a last second push.
Sep 30, 2016 at 1:17 PM
Originally posted by DRnSFw:
please explain why he didn't throw to blake bell here


Reminds me of this play..Gabbert still can't read a defense to save his life. Continues to throw to the covered receiver over the free man.......nothings changed in all these years.......


Sep 30, 2016 at 4:51 PM
Originally posted by DRnSFw:
please explain why he didn't throw to blake bell here


That's a good question in my opinion. This looks like a shallow cross concept with the TE hooking over center and the WR dragging across.
The TE is usually the Primary. I'd have to see the entire play though from the all22 view to see if it was a straight shallow cross or if it's a combined play with a couple concepts.
[ Edited by Niners816 on Sep 30, 2016 at 4:54 PM ]
Sep 30, 2016 at 4:54 PM
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by DRnSFw:
please explain why he didn't throw to blake bell here


That's a good question in my opinion. This looks like a shallow cross concept with the TE hooking over center and the WR dragging across.
The TE is usually the Primary.

This is how bad QBing can make the play-calling look inept when it's not. The play calling wasn't great by any means, but there's only so much you can do when you don't have the talent to execute. That's a throw that simply has to be made. Bell is wide open in the middle of the field with Gabbert starting straight down the barrel.
[ Edited by SofaKing on Sep 30, 2016 at 4:55 PM ]
Oct 1, 2016 at 7:06 PM
Originally posted by bzborow1:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by 49erphan:
If you have the time and inclination, could you break down the 9ers offenses' "second and six" play on the second offensive series of the first quarter? It looks to me like a read option where Gabbert hands off to Hyde but it seems like Gabbert should have kept it.

Normally, the zone read will read the DE, but the way SEA lines up Bennett (Staley's inside shoulder) prevents Bennett from being the unblocked key defender to read. Because of this alignment, Staley is forced to block Bennett, otherwise Bennett will just fly in a blow up the mesh point since he's so close to the QB/RB.


Read KJ Wright. By doing this small teak to the DL alignment, it changes the blocking assignments and changes who the read defender is. Now, if Gabbert keeps, he isn't on the edge 1v1 with a DE, he's 1v1 versus a LB (more athletic than a DE).


Same moment in time as above. Gabbert can go 1v1 against KJ Wright if he chooses to, although there's a second LB that's also clean.


+3. Maybe the QB keeper gets more yards, but it's not a definite imo.

What interesting is only one side of line shifts just prior to snap and it appears to be based on where the RB is positioned at snap. How do you counter that? Because it's not going to change until the do.

On the flip side, SF doesn't have to play Seattle's defense every week so that should be an improvement right there. It's remarkable actually how on virtually every play you've posted the LB's hold for a second in a spy type of position waiting for a gap.

Seems to me we're right back where we have been on offense for years. The defense can do this type of stuff because we don't have the QB nor the WR's to push the ball in the passing game.

Hyde should =n't have cut back. The hole was there front side, and Tiller was out in front to cut off the 1st LB to arrive. Bad read/cut by Hyde, imo.
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