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SunDevilNiner79
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Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Swing pass to RB and pray he makes a play
Also the play design could be to open up the top WR. The CB picks up the RB on the swing pass (maybe with a fake?), MLB follows crossing route, safety can't step up in time.
a swing pass to the RB matched up on Chancellor you say?? We tried that later - failed....
What about my 2nd option, that the play design was intended to go to the top WR (sorry I can't memorize who is who to be more specific). When I looked at the play again it looks like its setting up Seattle to be drawn to the Swing, with MLB following the crossing route to open up space for the top WR. Ofcourse if the top CB doesn't bite, its no bueno. But it looks like the top CB has his hips turned towards the RB.
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Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by susweel:
Purcell was getting blown off the ball, reid was getting puked for the ball, hodges was awful but pff says they did great lol.
I'd like for Purcell to be played as a 3-4 DE, not at the NT. He doesn't have the strength of leverage to be the NT IMO.
agree. purcell is better than AA and DB at this point. he makes plays every now and then.
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Originally posted by lamontb:
Bruh are you watching the games? Fozzy Whitaker never had a 100 yards rushing til he played the Niners. One of the worse o line's in the league just ran all over the Niners. And a journeyman running back that never had a td scored twice.
And Todd Gurley couldn't run against the 49ers...
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Originally posted by dj43:
IIRC, Smith is at the top of the screen and comes open just as Gabbert releases the ball to the right flat. So yes, it could have been to open him up, unfortunately, Brown whiffs and Gabbert is under pressure to get rid of the ball so he goes wide instead of holding it to see if Smith comes free.
If Smith doesn't come free Gabbert is either sacked or throws it away. There is no chance of a 1st because of the way Seattle plays their zone coverage on those swing plays.
ah thanks, thats what I thought after looking at the freeze frame more
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week 1 is always a fluke. teams still adjusting.
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Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by Blindfury:
Originally posted by awp8912:
I called it last week. Again taking it easy on the current QB, who has a better Oline and Chip Kelly running the offense but struggling worse than Kap last season with Tomsula and Pears blocking for him and while injured.
Pretty much what I predicted as well.
y'all really are convinced that I'm extremely biased towards CK and am all over Gabbert's nuts aren't you?? I call it how I see it...but whatev....
Just so you know, this was from a film thread several years ago:
"From the offensive side of the ball:
I saw a LOT of growth in CK this week. I'll be posting some examples, but, he made some incredible reads and throws, and on one play in particular(which I'll show) he got to his 5th read on the play"
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/176305-analysis-atlanta-falcons-game-coaches-film/page2/
First play I broke down there, was a throwaway that I credited CK for making it a non-negative play....but you're right...I only go easy on gabs.....smh
JD and THL any competent poster that has been on this board for a few years and has followed these threads knows your not biased one way or the other. Thank you for your time and input, don't let these other bums take away from that. Its tough to determine whose at fault for what based off the live game, you really have to go back and watch the film to determine what happened which is why this thread is so valuable. So thanks!
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Originally posted by ChazBoner:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by susweel:
Purcell was getting blown off the ball, reid was getting puked for the ball, hodges was awful but pff says they did great lol.
I'd like for Purcell to be played as a 3-4 DE, not at the NT. He doesn't have the strength of leverage to be the NT IMO.
agree. purcell is better than AA and DB at this point. he makes plays every now and then.
dial is way better than AA
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Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by susweel:
Purcell was getting blown off the ball, reid was getting puked for the ball, hodges was awful but pff says they did great lol.
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I'd like for Purcell to be played as a 3-4 DE, not at the NT. He doesn't have the strength of leverage to be the NT IMO.
agree. purcell is better than AA and DB at this point. he makes plays every now and then.
dial is way better than AA
easily. he's my favorite DL on the team.
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Originally posted by ChazBoner:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by susweel:
Purcell was getting blown off the ball, reid was getting puked for the ball, hodges was awful but pff says they did great lol.
I'd like for Purcell to be played as a 3-4 DE, not at the NT. He doesn't have the strength of leverage to be the NT IMO.
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agree. purcell is better than AA and DB at this point. he makes plays every now and then.
dial is way better than AA
easily. he's my favorite DL on the team.
Yah he tough southern boy not some soft west coast dude went to a p***y ass college like Oregon.
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I guess this is over simplification, but...
One is a better team because of the owner's mindset, front office personnel, talented players being chosen, HC, hard working players and superior game plans and preparation.
The other team does not have most of this. It cannot be fixed in the next 1-2 years (or more).
End result is a blowout.
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Dajanksta:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Dajanksta:
Well if he's going to f**king suck and get dominated he shouldn't be playing.
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One problem... He is not "sucking".
Your definition of sucking must be different than mine. Mine means he's not playing well, not getting to the passer, not stopping the run. So if he's not doing his job then I think he is sucking.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-seahawks-49ers-grades/
Get those PFF rankings outta here. It's like playing on Rookie mode in Madden. IT DOESNT COUNT
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
I don't think Gabbert did anything in that game to lose the game for us but he didn't do anything to win it.. The INT he had wasn't his fault, the ball was right where the receiver would want it, Patton simply blew it. I really hated a number of the play calls. I think Modkins hit it right on the head in his presser when he said they have to give their guys a better plan and a better situation. There were a number of designed play calls that were just bad ideas. I don't care who would've been our QB in this game, I don't think we win. We could've had Steve Young under center and I don't think we win this game.

didn't do anything to lose the game? How about converting 1st downs? Helping our defense to rest, TO FEEL MOTIVATED TO STAY IN THE GAME. How about waiting for something else to be open than hitting the first short pass he feels comfortable with
of course you don't care who could've been the QB this game. The point is, we don't know what could've happened. BUT what we do know, is Gabbert continues to play as the worse Starting QB in the League.
I got to get back to work.. I'll edit it this later....
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The defense gave up a TD in 3 plays on the first drive of the game - they then gave up another TD the very next drive - yet that's on the offense?? C'mon, man. How many teams you know get down to Seattle 14-0 in the first quarter and win in Seattle??
Personally, I was going to be WAY more harsh to Chip in my OP than I was. I thought our game-plan was absolute garbage. Seattle snuffed out so many of our plays it wasn't even funny. His offense was exposed for what it has been - too simple and relies too much on misdirection.
I'll give you this shot - you can analyze this and tell me what should've happened:

This was 3rd and 4 - Seattle has a free rusher at Gabbert off the RT because Brown screwed up - where does he go with the ball to get a 1st??
No one is running a deep enough rout.
And that LB could easily jump the route to Patton for a possible INT or pick 6. Crappy play call on this third down IMO.
I don't see anything wrong with this playcall. It worked. Gabbert made a misread and threw to his first read. The correct throw is to Torrey. I've cut this concept up multiple times (Hank concept). The read is inside-out and Gabbert never went to his second read, and it was obvious which sideline he should move towards. I'll cut this up later.