Here's a 3rd down near goal to go - This is what Modkins alluded to when he said Seattle forces you to throw underneath and then make the yard to gain afterwards. Personally, I don't like this play design - I'll go into that later.
Here, I think we're trying to fake a flood concept to get the safety to bite - if it is, it doesn't work. We going to run china concept to the bottom and, like I said, it's more of a flood look. However, I would've preferred a flood concept - as I think that would've worked. Seattle is in quarters coverage.
Torrey's route starts to show like it might go outside then he turns it into a skinny post. This gives no vertical threat to Sherman to create depth in his zone drop. You also see how Seattle has dropped everyone to the 1 yard line or so, it makes it real tough to get the line to gain.
The LB jams McD on his route(it's still legal within 5 yards) and does a good job covering McD. The outside route on the china is bracketed and a LB is sitting on Patton's route(he runs it kind of half-speed....) You see with no vertical threat, Sherman plays underneath. If we had a corner route called in it would put Sherman in an either/or situation. Sea also drops the DE on that side for contain against a QB run.
With Sherman playing underneath I really want to see a route to the outside back pylon. That way, Gabs could look off Sherman with the flat route and get a TD, or vice versa. He tries to get it to the only open receiver while he might still have a chance to pick up the 1st.
Draughn aint Marshall Faulk and Gabs leads him a little away from Sherman so he can't get any RAC and it's 4th down.
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Sep 27, 2016 at 1:31 PM
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Sep 27, 2016 at 1:33 PM
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Originally posted by DRnSFw:
Get those PFF rankings outta here. It's like playing on Rookie mode in Madden. IT DOESNT COUNT
That must be why most NFL teams buy their stuff. It is just to confuse their opponents.
Sep 27, 2016 at 1:34 PM
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Originally posted by TheRambler:Originally posted by susweel:f**k this game I want forget it ever happened.
naw dude. remember it so one day when we beat them it'll be that much sweeter.
[waits for Chaz to quote and bold "when we beat them" and post Charlton Heston laughing gif]
Srsly can't see that happening any time soon.
Sep 27, 2016 at 1:35 PM
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Originally posted by awp8912:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Yes, I'm sure they'll provide tons of counter-proof.
Nice work JD...keep it up.
Who needs counter-proof? All off-season the talk was about how great Gabbert is for Chip Kelly's system. Weird, he's statistically the worst QB in the NFL. Let me go spend 5 hours re-watching his garbage play to prove a point that the rest of the world already knew, years ago. The guy's a bust with zero skills......zero.
Then clearly, no need to post in here, eh? Let the boys do their work and explain how they ALL came to these conclusions. 'Zero' is what you're adding to this thread.
Sep 27, 2016 at 1:36 PM
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that one pissed me off. Garb should've immediately gone to draughn. all he has to do is beat Sheman, and he's in.
Sep 27, 2016 at 1:36 PM
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Originally posted by OneMoreRing:
LB - we desperately need another playmaker or at least solid LB next to Bow.
There was NO EXCUSE for Baalke ignoring ILB the draft this year - we desperately needed 1 or 2 plug and play ILBs and he ignored it completely. I given him the benefit of the doubt until now but he is an ignoramus.
He even ignored it in F/A. We need to drop this need to run the 3-4 when we simply don't have the talent to successfully execute it. The old school 4-3 that siefert ran in the 90's would work better.
Sep 27, 2016 at 1:36 PM
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Bruh are you watching the games? Fozzy Whitaker never had a 100 yards rushing til he played the Niners. One of the worse o line's in the league just ran all over the Niners. And a journeyman running back that never had a td scored twice.
And Todd Gurley couldn't run against the 49ers...
AP couldn't run on them last year and how did that turn out the rest of the season?
Sep 27, 2016 at 1:37 PM
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Ewwww, that is a bad play design
Before I even saw your last comment I wondered why Torrey would not be going to the far corner of the end zone to pressure Sherman back....
Before I even saw your last comment I wondered why Torrey would not be going to the far corner of the end zone to pressure Sherman back....
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Sep 27, 2016 at 1:41 PM
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Originally posted by TheRambler:
Originally posted by ChazBoner:And you are posting this in the game film review thread because? Subtle trolling for the loss.
Originally posted by 49ersking:
I guess this is over simplification, but...
One is a better team because of the owner's mindset, front office personnel, talented players being chosen, HC, hard working players and superior game plans and preparation.
The other team does not have most of this. It cannot be fixed in the next 1-2 years (or more).
End result is a blowout.
true dat.
No disrespect to film review/analysis in general.
My thoughts are that reviews would result in some breakthrough/improvements when done between two (near) equally matched teams. For e.g., possibly the Steelers and Patriots. When teams like the 49ers, which are so mismatched even before the game starts...it might look like a scheme thing, but ...oh well, life goes on.
Sep 27, 2016 at 1:43 PM
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Originally posted by ChazBoner:that one pissed me off. Garb should've immediately gone to draughn. all he has to do is beat Sheman, and he's in.
Yep. I remember thinking it could have went for something had it not come in so late and off target.
Sep 27, 2016 at 1:44 PM
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Originally posted by ChazBoner:
that one pissed me off. Garb should've immediately gone to draughn. all he has to do is beat Sheman, and he's in.
Draughn was like his 3rd option. You can see it on the telecast where he was looking initially. Then had to go quickly to Draughn as check down.
Sep 27, 2016 at 1:46 PM
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Originally posted by jonnydel:
After I watched the game on Sunday I was ready to call for the head of everyone on the team, from Jed-Baalke-Chip-Modkins-JoN-Gabbert-every receiver we have-everyone on defense but Bow....
Where I'm at, especially after watching the film is in a pretty similar place to Marvin49. I don't think Gabbert did anything in that game to lose the game for us but he didn't do anything to win it.. The INT he had wasn't his fault, the ball was right where the receiver would want it, Patton simply blew it. I really hated a number of the play calls. I think Modkins hit it right on the head in his presser when he said they have to give their guys a better plan and a better situation. There were a number of designed play calls that were just bad ideas. The game-plan was one that seemed to want to attack Seattle horizontally in the passing game more than vertically. When we tried to attack vertically near the seams we were successful, but far too often we tried to attack horizontally towards the sidelines and failed.
Good stuff JD...that was my exact feelings during the game and good to see my eyes didn't fail me on my concerns of design. I watched a lot of football this week and I have real concerns about the scheme and game plans and even, personnel choices (at times). It's no secret we don't have all-world talent but there is a lot a HC/OC/DC can do to put his players in positions to succeed via scheme. The bottom line is I felt we were massively outschemed and outcoached and I was happy to here Modkins at least recognize it. That said, both Kelly and Gabbert talked about having better first down production coming into the Seattle game and I didn't seen any changes there so...until I see it...I'll remain skeptical.
Sep 27, 2016 at 1:47 PM
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Gabbert even sucks at his specialty, the dump off
Sep 27, 2016 at 1:47 PM
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Where are all the screens and quick hitters to the backs that we heard about in the off season?
Sep 27, 2016 at 1:48 PM
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Originally posted by lamontb:
Where are all the screens and quick hitters to the backs that we heard about in the off season?
and exotic run plays? Seems like the same o' s**t we always ran.