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Week 4 Dallas Cowboys coaches film analysis

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Jonny,thl I still haven't finished watching the panther's film .
Have a lot going on at home and at work right now, so my free time is in small spades. I like looking at coaches film after games and can appreciate the time and detail that goes into it so I appreciate the time that you guys put into establishing your analysis of what you see for everyone. Keep up the good work.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
But it's also disingenuous to show a couple of CK highlights and not act like he hasn't had his own struggles throwing the ball. What about this one from a game against the Packers??


That time he had 2 receivers wide open and threw an INT into double coverage to Boldin...

It's not that CK does this every time, but saying that he'd throw a strike on that throw to T Smith every time doesn't mean it'd be true. Both Gabbert and CK have shown a lot of reason why they shouldn't be starting for any team.

I can't take that comment seriously about a QB who has taken the team to two championship games and a Superbowl.
Seems like everyone on defense is looking to make the big play instead of covering their assignments. To me, that shows a combination of both immaturity and poor coaching. They are looking for personal glory instead of being focused on winning. Its just poor teamwork and a lack of trust on the field. And I have a feeling its going to get WAY worse now that Bowman is on the shelf. Its going to be a 11 1s out there trying to make a big play, instead of 1 11 out there trying to get the ball back.

This team is obliterated. Worse, the team has taken on the desperate, selfish, glory-hog, back-stabbing, paranoid and untrusting persona of Jed and Trent.

I am seriously ashamed to represent this team, even as just a fan.
Originally posted by thl408:
Fourth drive of 2nd half. First play of the drive.

Looks like Chip ran this play out of a different formation

Here are some examples of it that we've seen in the first couple of games. It keeps getting guys open. We've seen throws to the fade, the deep drag (as chip calls it)over the middle and the post.




Originally posted by NCommand:
It really is...we lost cornerstones on defense right down the middle with Williams + Bowman + Ray-Ray. And it doesn't even include the fact that guys are already playing through injuries or not playing at all such as Tartt, Ward, Dorsey, Lynch, Redmond, Davis, Armstead, Buckner, etc. That's 11 players right there. And it's only going to get worse.
Ward down, both of the starting ILBs down, NT down, a rookie in the d-line, the sophomore is injured. This indeed does not contribute to success at all.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Please show the 4th down pass. Depth of WR's, who was open/not open, etc
Last drive of the game.
right side: Smash divide. Don't know what left side is.
vs Cover1 with two underneath zone as DAL rushes 3.


The play is busted here. Blue will drop back into coverage. Red attacks Tiller. This isolates Brown 1v1 with the DE.


DE takes a step towards the outside rush.


THen attacks Brown's inside shoulder. The DE will bust through and get Gabbert to escape the pocket.


Gabbert starts to escape as nothing is open downfield.


This is what Gabbert would have seen had the pocket held up. Not much separation anywhere with possible windows to Burbridge who has inside positioning on his Post route, and Torrey who's CB is playing with a cushion, but that's a far throw.


Good pressure from rushing 3.


gg

My buddy called me right after that play happen stemming mad. He said Staley had his guy and Gabbert bailed too quick. I wasn't all that sure, so I really couldn't say. I knew I saw pressure, but wasn't sure where it came from. Now that I've seen the play, my buddy was absolutely right. Gabbert left the pocket way early.
Originally posted by awp8912:
Originally posted by thl408:

Short hops the throw.

Isn't this just a bad play call here in the redzone, on 3rd and 14?

Might have had a chance with Torrey but the throw itself, to me, was just a throw away (3 defenders quickly converge on AB). Just take the points on 3rd and 14.
Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by NCommand:
It really is...we lost cornerstones on defense right down the middle with Williams + Bowman + Ray-Ray. And it doesn't even include the fact that guys are already playing through injuries or not playing at all such as Tartt, Ward, Dorsey, Lynch, Redmond, Davis, Armstead, Buckner, etc. That's 11 players right there. And it's only going to get worse.
Ward down, both of the starting ILBs down, NT down, a rookie in the d-line, the sophomore is injured. This indeed does not contribute to success at all.

It's very unfortunate. Fans will just b***h about talent but talent can't grow from the training room. I have a feeling this defense would look significantly better with this healthy lineup for a full year (or at least 95%).

RDE: Quinton Dial/DeForest Bucker
NT: Ian Williams/Glenn Dorsey
LDE: Arik Armstead
WILL: Ahmad Brooks
TED: Ray-Ray Armstrong
MIKE: Navarro Bowman
SAM: Aaron Lynch
RCB: Jimmie Ward
SLOT: Will Redmond
LCB: Rashard Robinson
FS: Eric Reid
SS: Jaquiski Tartt
[ Edited by NCommand on Oct 5, 2016 at 10:24 AM ]
Originally posted by thl408:
Later on the opening drive of second half. Due to some minimal runs and a false start penalty, 3rd & 14.
Hank concept versus Tampa2
I do get it that Hank is quite useful against Tampa 2 but was it a good call on this particular play? I mean we had to go for 14 yards.
Or am I misled by the poor execution, i.e. if Burbridge had caught the ball and had turned inside, he would have converted the 3rd to a 1st down?
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Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by thl408:
Later on the opening drive of second half. Due to some minimal runs and a false start penalty, 3rd & 14.
Hank concept versus Tampa2
I do get it that Hank is quite useful against Tampa 2 but was it a good call on this particular play? I mean we had to go for 14 yards.
Or am I misled by the poor execution, i.e. if Burbridge had caught the ball and had turned inside, he would have converted the 3rd to a 1st down?

I think the bolded was the only chance to get the first down. Seemed like a "safe" playcall to ensure the FG, and the 3 point lead. Gabbert short hopped the throw and immediately pointed to himself after the incompletion as if to say "my bad".
Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Seems like everyone on defense is looking to make the big play instead of covering their assignments. To me, that shows a combination of both immaturity and poor coaching. They are looking for personal glory instead of being focused on winning. Its just poor teamwork and a lack of trust on the field. And I have a feeling its going to get WAY worse now that Bowman is on the shelf. Its going to be a 11 1s out there trying to make a big play, instead of 1 11 out there trying to get the ball back.

This team is obliterated. Worse, the team has taken on the desperate, selfish, glory-hog, back-stabbing, paranoid and untrusting persona of Jed and Trent.

I am seriously ashamed to represent this team, even as just a fan.

Based on what we know from JoN's tenure in Cleveland, it looks like more of the same issues with guys having no idea wtf to do on any given play as opposed to everyone out there freelancing.
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Seems like everyone on defense is looking to make the big play instead of covering their assignments. To me, that shows a combination of both immaturity and poor coaching. They are looking for personal glory instead of being focused on winning. Its just poor teamwork and a lack of trust on the field. And I have a feeling its going to get WAY worse now that Bowman is on the shelf. Its going to be a 11 1s out there trying to make a big play, instead of 1 11 out there trying to get the ball back.

This team is obliterated. Worse, the team has taken on the desperate, selfish, glory-hog, back-stabbing, paranoid and untrusting persona of Jed and Trent.

I am seriously ashamed to represent this team, even as just a fan.

Based on what we know from JoN's tenure in Cleveland, it looks like more of the same issues with guys having no idea wtf to do on any given play as opposed to everyone out there freelancing.

Could also be the style JoN prefers to play. Of course he doesn't want them to be reckless and blow assignments, but he's also said in his pressers he wants his players to be aggressive and try to make a plays and force turnovers.
Looking at all the plays, there looks to be several guys "NFL open" on each play. Not like the Harbaugh days when there seemed to be only 1 guy open or even on a route. It looks to me like Gabbert is just not seeing the whole field, or usually pulling the trigger too early. He needs to sit in there and trust the OL, which is't likely to happen.

Grr... I am soooo irritated that they did not drafft a QB this year!
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by NCommand:
It really is...we lost cornerstones on defense right down the middle with Williams + Bowman + Ray-Ray. And it doesn't even include the fact that guys are already playing through injuries or not playing at all such as Tartt, Ward, Dorsey, Lynch, Redmond, Davis, Armstead, Buckner, etc. That's 11 players right there. And it's only going to get worse.
Ward down, both of the starting ILBs down, NT down, a rookie in the d-line, the sophomore is injured. This indeed does not contribute to success at all.

It's very unfortunate. Fans will just b***h about talent but talent can't grow from the training room. I have a feeling this defense would look significantly better with this healthy lineup for a full year (or at least 95%).

RDE: Quinton Dial/DeForest Bucker
NT: Ian Williams/Glenn Dorsey
LDE: Arik Armstead
WILL: Ahmad Brooks
TED: Ray-Ray Armstrong
MIKE: Navarro Bowman
SAM: Aaron Lynch
RCB: Jimmie Ward
SLOT: Will Redmond
LCB: Rashard Robinson
FS: Eric Reid
SS: Jaquiski Tartt

It's very true. I cannot believe the number of injuries this team has. It's beginning to look like the pre-Nolan days before he got rid of all the machines in the training room. Every year since after the super bowl, the team is decimated early on in the season.
Originally posted by PowderdToastMn:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by NCommand:
It really is...we lost cornerstones on defense right down the middle with Williams + Bowman + Ray-Ray. And it doesn't even include the fact that guys are already playing through injuries or not playing at all such as Tartt, Ward, Dorsey, Lynch, Redmond, Davis, Armstead, Buckner, etc. That's 11 players right there. And it's only going to get worse.
Ward down, both of the starting ILBs down, NT down, a rookie in the d-line, the sophomore is injured. This indeed does not contribute to success at all.

It's very unfortunate. Fans will just b***h about talent but talent can't grow from the training room. I have a feeling this defense would look significantly better with this healthy lineup for a full year (or at least 95%).

RDE: Quinton Dial/DeForest Bucker
NT: Ian Williams/Glenn Dorsey
LDE: Arik Armstead
WILL: Ahmad Brooks
TED: Ray-Ray Armstrong
MIKE: Navarro Bowman
SAM: Aaron Lynch
RCB: Jimmie Ward
SLOT: Will Redmond
LCB: Rashard Robinson
FS: Eric Reid
SS: Jaquiski Tartt

It's very true. I cannot believe the number of injuries this team has. It's beginning to look like the pre-Nolan days before he got rid of all the machines in the training room. Every year since after the super bowl, the team is decimated early on in the season.

I was OK with them last year b/c we got to see players we probably would not have seen such as Tiller and Brown, etc. and they grew into quality starters for this year. But not THIS year. This is the year everyone needs to be healthy so we can figure out what we have and don't have.
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