John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It's true. He made good on a really bad situation. At worst we have the best 1, 2 in the league. 2 good QB's isn't bad to have. QB's often get injured. The have the deepest QB room in the league. A talented one too. It's not really bad at all.

No way this is the best 1, 2 in the league.

Jimmy is a very limited QB and we don't even know for sure what we have in Trey.

He made the NFC Championship game multiple times and the Super Bowl 1 time. Plenty of "great QB's" who haven't sniffed anything close to that. LOL.

QB insurance for $6.5-10m this year with a QB that knows the system and doesn't create internal drama in the locker room?

A steal.

but

Originally posted by captveg:
QB insurance for $6.5-10m this year with a QB that knows the system and doesn't create internal drama in the locker room?

A steal.

A 10-4 Texas howdy on that one.

Originally posted by NCommand:
I hear you. I'm just noting they could have paid Laken LESS than he normally would make in 2022 if 1) they wanted him and 2) felt he was worth it long term.

Jimmy's temp. fake cap hit had nothing to do with it.

They could have had more cap space available if they cut Jimmy earlier. Admittedly, the cap wizardry is too much for me for follow so possibly they couldve re-signed Laken without cutting Jimmy. But in the end scheme of things, getting rid of your second best olineman who played every game on a roster marred by constant injuries, for someone who was overdrafted and looking like a bust, under a pretense of "too much money" hurts when money is tied to more inferior players.

A lot of these problems at OL and S are self-inflicted. Hell, I'd even say as great as Womack has been, having both him AND Kwaun would be much better than Lenoir or Dontae or Quantrezz as slot backups.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by NCommand:
The greatest myth ever told was Jimmy's contract holding our FO back from making the team better. As you just saw, whether cut or restructured, it really didn't have an effect on signing their own or others...if they wanted too. There's a ton of ways to structure it for 2023.

The cap space is not made out of rubber. Eventually theres not more players you can afford to sign. For all the talk of OL being a problem, going from Laken to Banks is a clear downgrade at least short-term. This is a move a team like the Rams doesn't usually make. Whats the point of going Banks over Laken ? Money.
What Jimmy's contract held in hostage ? Money.

I hear you. I'm just noting they could have paid Laken LESS than he normally would make in 2022 if 1) they wanted him and 2) felt he was worth it long term.

Jimmy's temp. fake cap hit had nothing to do with it.

The rams let good players walk every single year.

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I hear you. I'm just noting they could have paid Laken LESS than he normally would make in 2022 if 1) they wanted him and 2) felt he was worth it long term.

Jimmy's temp. fake cap hit had nothing to do with it.

They could have had more cap space available if they cut Jimmy earlier. Admittedly, the cap wizardry is too much for me for follow so possibly they couldve re-signed Laken without cutting Jimmy. But in the end scheme of things, getting rid of your second best olineman who played every game on a roster marred by constant injuries, for someone who was overdrafted and looking like a bust, under a pretense of "too much money" hurts when money is tied to more inferior players.

A lot of these problems at OL and S are self-inflicted. Hell, I'd even say as great as Womack has been, having both him AND Kwaun would be much better than Lenoir or Dontae or Quantrezz as slot backups.

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But dynasty, we now have 3 starting OGs…Banks, Burford, and Poe.Our problem is one slot over…RT. We have more than compensated at OG, with 3 OG starters, instead of paying just one. RT is our problem, not Laken.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
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But dynasty, we now have 3 starting OGs…Banks, Burford, and Poe.Our problem is one slot over…RT. We have more than compensated at OG, with 3 OG starters, instead of paying just one. RT is our problem, not Laken.

I am very skeptical about Banks. I think Laken is better than any of the guards we have. Didn't the say they're exploring other guys on the interior of OL ? MM is a problem, sure, but MM at least has a high floor for run blocking and has shown it in the NFL. Banks so far has shown nothing.

Laken solidified that left part of the line. Downgrading on the oline is probably one of the worst things you could do to a young quarterback.

Lynch made senile pete a loser today before the season even started. Free 2 wins and force seachickens to tank for any chance of a new QB next draft better than geno Smith or Drew lock 🤣

What a way to celebrate and Ring in the new ERA, TREY ERA with 2 FREE EASY WINS FROM SEACHICKEN GUARANTEED 🤣

Lynch definitely did a fuc*ery denied on x9er body snatcher Senile Pete, very well play 😉 🤣

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I hear you. I'm just noting they could have paid Laken LESS than he normally would make in 2022 if 1) they wanted him and 2) felt he was worth it long term.

Jimmy's temp. fake cap hit had nothing to do with it.

They could have had more cap space available if they cut Jimmy earlier. Admittedly, the cap wizardry is too much for me for follow so possibly they couldve re-signed Laken without cutting Jimmy. But in the end scheme of things, getting rid of your second best olineman who played every game on a roster marred by constant injuries, for someone who was overdrafted and looking like a bust, under a pretense of "too much money" hurts when money is tied to more inferior players.

A lot of these problems at OL and S are self-inflicted. Hell, I'd even say as great as Womack has been, having both him AND Kwaun would be much better than Lenoir or Dontae or Quantrezz as slot backups.

Gotcha. Yeah, maybe having him off the books might have made the FO more eager to make another move. Who knows.

Definitely agree with the rest. Self-inflicted is the perfect term!

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I hear you. I'm just noting they could have paid Laken LESS than he normally would make in 2022 if 1) they wanted him and 2) felt he was worth it long term.

Jimmy's temp. fake cap hit had nothing to do with it.

They could have had more cap space available if they cut Jimmy earlier. Admittedly, the cap wizardry is too much for me for follow so possibly they couldve re-signed Laken without cutting Jimmy. But in the end scheme of things, getting rid of your second best olineman who played every game on a roster marred by constant injuries, for someone who was overdrafted and looking like a bust, under a pretense of "too much money" hurts when money is tied to more inferior players.

A lot of these problems at OL and S are self-inflicted. Hell, I'd even say as great as Womack has been, having both him AND Kwaun would be much better than Lenoir or Dontae or Quantrezz as slot backups.

Gotcha. Yeah, maybe having him off the books might have made the FO more eager to make another move. Who knows.

Definitely agree with the rest. Self-inflicted is the perfect term!

So Jimmy screws the Niners with the surprise surgery. No one wants damaged goods at $25M. Market help determine this one and we were looking to upgrade the QB room. Of course Jimmy takes a restructure because it's not at all guaranteed he plays anywhere this season. He gets to rehab his surgically repaired shoulder while getting paid and the 49ers get to have a back-up who can come in when/if Trey gets hurt. We're also trading $ for compensation but again someone is going to have to offer the right compensation now that we've restructured. It's possible the 49ers already have a trade partner in mind which is why this got done before cutdown day.

We could be trading for a pick, but more likely we'll trade for a player. Seattle, Cleveland, and low-key Detroit are in an interesting situation. Let's see how this shakes out.

Possible downside? A divided locker room.

Good take.

Yeah, this team is too tight to have any divided locker room IMHO.

Koldo is furious.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:
I don't hate the move but….

it's unprecedented. And usually when that happens it's bad.

hey Lynch. The WHOLE point of drafting a cheap QB is so that you can maximize the roster elsewhere. That's why you should have cut Jimmy as soon as you could.

how's our IOL depth looking?
hows our safety depth looking?

niners lead the league in doing things that no one else does. And that's great because we've won so many rings lately. 🤦‍♂️

Those are two separate issues. Even if they carried the 3 best QB's on the planet, they'd still not see their deficiencies on the OL and S positions.

Maybe they will in 2023?

It's not a terrible move but…

every other team in the history of the NFL just cuts Jimmy, saves the money, and goes forward into the future on a single mission.

our team fails to move in a single direction in unison. That will be our downfall.

Or the Niners have two guys with Shanahan and Lynch that saw what happened when Jimmy was injured in 2018 and 2020 and want to make sure that it won´t happen again this season.
Remember that game against Houston when Jimmy was out? If they lost that game, the Niners were out of the PO. Luckily for them, there was this young QB named Trey Lance that had a hell of a second half to win the game.
If they can´t find a trade for Jimmy G and don´t want to release him because Seahawks, might as well keep him as a back up specially on that salary.
Plus with that salary, it increases the chance of a trade if someone get injured. And if there´s no trade, then you probably get a third round compensatory pick.

DT Sheldon Day on waivers. Are we feeling it?