John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by Second2Nunley:
Looking at the rams collapse, I'm hoping we are not seeing the Niner's future given all the draft capital we have dumped. Hopefully all those thirds turn into quality depth. The Rams look decimated.

This team year after year doesn't give up 1sts, they will be nothing like LA. Add the fact they draft well late and put emphasis in depth

I'm including the two firsts for Trey.

Originally posted by BobSacamano69:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by Second2Nunley:
Looking at the rams collapse, I'm hoping we are not seeing the Niner's future given all the draft capital we have dumped. Hopefully all those thirds turn into quality depth. The Rams look decimated.

This team year after year doesn't give up 1sts, they will be nothing like LA. Add the fact they draft well late and put emphasis in depth

id gladly go through a 2-3 year collapse if it was because we just brought home the 49ers 6th lombardi trophy.

I think it's going to be way longer than 2-3 years

Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
id gladly go through a 2-3 year collapse if it was because we just brought home the 49ers 6th lombardi trophy.

The people who say that haven't been through it.

Originally posted by Second2Nunley:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by Second2Nunley:
Looking at the rams collapse, I'm hoping we are not seeing the Niner's future given all the draft capital we have dumped. Hopefully all those thirds turn into quality depth. The Rams look decimated.

This team year after year doesn't give up 1sts, they will be nothing like LA. Add the fact they draft well late and put emphasis in depth

I'm including the two firsts for Trey.

Nothing compared to the years of 1sts traded away by LA. You make that move if you think you have a franchise qb

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Nothing compared to the years of 1sts traded away by LA. You make that move if you think you have a franchise qb

Had the Rams made the Burns trade their only first rounder in 10 seasons would've been Jared Goff.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Nothing compared to the years of 1sts traded away by LA. You make that move if you think you have a franchise qb

Had the Rams made the Burns trade their only first rounder in 10 seasons would've been Jared Goff.

Exactly, no way John and Kyle think like LA where 1sts are worthless. Yes it's cool LA got their ring but years from now we can be saying they haven't won a SB in 15 plus years and the shine runs out. I rather have my team be in the thick of it year in and out.

It's funny how much fans hate to see 1st round draft picks traded even for established players. They somehow think that all the 1st rounders are going to be stars. History has proven that's not the case. About 1/3 are busts. Then those same fans rip the team for failing to find a star in the first round.

First round picks are valuable if you hit on the player because you get that extra year of a cheap contract. Since you have a 1 in 3 chance of missing, it makes more sense to get an established player. If you don't need a QB then trading the high pick for future picks or multiple picks is the way to go. There is no formula that works for every team in every case. It depends on the team needs, their salary cap situation and how old current players are. Are you drafting for right now of for the future.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It's funny how much fans hate to see 1st round draft picks traded even for established players. They somehow think that all the 1st rounders are going to be stars. History has proven that's not the case. About 1/3 are busts. Then those same fans rip the team for failing to find a star in the first round.

First round picks are valuable if you hit on the player because you get that extra year of a cheap contract. Since you have a 1 in 3 chance of missing, it makes more sense to get an established player. If you don't need a QB then trading the high pick for future picks or multiple picks is the way to go. There is no formula that works for every team in every case. It depends on the team needs, their salary cap situation and how old current players are. Are you drafting for right now of for the future.

Put it this way. The cost to acquire Matthew Stafford for the Rams was a 2016, 2017, 2022 and 2023 first rounder, 2 2016 2nd rounders, 2016, 2017 and 2022 3rd rounders. Ignores the first for Brandon Cooks, 2nd and 3rd for Von Miller, and the 2 firsts for Ramsay.

Does one championship make that worth it? Perhaps. But that recklessness will come back around.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It's funny how much fans hate to see 1st round draft picks traded even for established players. They somehow think that all the 1st rounders are going to be stars. History has proven that's not the case. About 1/3 are busts. Then those same fans rip the team for failing to find a star in the first round.

First round picks are valuable if you hit on the player because you get that extra year of a cheap contract. Since you have a 1 in 3 chance of missing, it makes more sense to get an established player. If you don't need a QB then trading the high pick for future picks or multiple picks is the way to go. There is no formula that works for every team in every case. It depends on the team needs, their salary cap situation and how old current players are. Are you drafting for right now of for the future.

Put it this way. The cost to acquire Matthew Stafford for the Rams was a 2016, 2017, 2022 and 2023 first rounder, 2 2016 2nd rounders, 2016, 2017 and 2022 3rd rounders. Ignores the first for Brandon Cooks, 2nd and 3rd for Von Miller, and the 2 firsts for Ramsay.

Does one championship make that worth it? Perhaps. But that recklessness will come back around.

if we didn't choke..all of that would have been a waste

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by Second2Nunley:
Looking at the rams collapse, I'm hoping we are not seeing the Niner's future given all the draft capital we have dumped. Hopefully all those thirds turn into quality depth. The Rams look decimated.

No matter what, they have a SB win. No matter how much they lose, their strategy paid off.

That's one way to look at it… another way to look at it is that rams fans are absolutely miserable…. Let's see if memories can keep them happy as they dwell in the cellar.

We haven't won a SB since 94-95. Rams have won 2 since then and have been to 4. We can't be talking about memories when they've had more recent success than us. Also don't expect a huge market team like the Rams to sit back and do nothing for the next 5 years. They're going to find a way to retool and rebuild quickly. Also McVay is still young and has a lot of good coaching head of him.

I like John Lynch. He seems to be a smart GM. I'm not sure how many decisions are actually his compared to Shannahan but he is ballsy compared to baalke. He seems to be getting better at the job every year.

Originally posted by 49ers_Life:
I like John Lynch. He seems to be a smart GM. I'm not sure how many decisions are actually his compared to Shannahan but he is ballsy compared to baalke. He seems to be getting better at the job every year.

He's learned a lot and improved every year for sure. I think he relies on his scouts and people around him more than people realize (which is exactly what he is supposed to do). I think that's why we have had so much success in rounds 4-7 with random players and UDFA. The amount of quality players out of the back of the draft and UDFA has been some of the best I've ever seen for any team.

Let's hope it finally pays off with a championship.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
if we didn't choke..all of that would have been a waste

it was more injury related

Trent Williams played with a ankle sprain(?) which he allowed like 6 pressures by far worst in career. Jimmy G literally playing with a throwing shoulder that needed surgery and despite that wew were a Tartt dropped int from winning that game

we really needed a bye week i think that week 5 early bye killed us i am so happy this year we have a later bye especially since we arent going to get a bye week going into playoffs

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
if we didn't choke..all of that would have been a waste

it was more injury related

Trent Williams played with a ankle sprain(?) which he allowed like 6 pressures by far worst in career. Jimmy G literally playing with a throwing shoulder that needed surgery and despite that wew were a Tartt dropped int from winning that game

we really needed a bye week i think that week 5 early bye killed us i am so happy this year we have a later bye especially since we arent going to get a bye week going into playoffs

Even with injuries and after the tartt drop we still had two offensive drives.

A later bye wouldn't have prevented the injuries that we suffered later in the season

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It's funny how much fans hate to see 1st round draft picks traded even for established players. They somehow think that all the 1st rounders are going to be stars. History has proven that's not the case. About 1/3 are busts. Then those same fans rip the team for failing to find a star in the first round.

First round picks are valuable if you hit on the player because you get that extra year of a cheap contract. Since you have a 1 in 3 chance of missing, it makes more sense to get an established player. If you don't need a QB then trading the high pick for future picks or multiple picks is the way to go. There is no formula that works for every team in every case. It depends on the team needs, their salary cap situation and how old current players are. Are you drafting for right now of for the future.

Put it this way. The cost to acquire Matthew Stafford for the Rams was a 2016, 2017, 2022 and 2023 first rounder, 2 2016 2nd rounders, 2016, 2017 and 2022 3rd rounders. Ignores the first for Brandon Cooks, 2nd and 3rd for Von Miller, and the 2 firsts for Ramsay.

Does one championship make that worth it? Perhaps. But that recklessness will come back around.

if we didn't choke..all of that would have been a waste

The NFL is all about trends. One teams does something that works and everyone else starts doing it. Before free agency and the salary cap, trades in the NFL were rare. Teams valued the draft picks because that was pretty much the only way to build a team. Players stayed in school for 4 years and were much more ready to play when they entered the NFL.

Fast forward to today with the cap an dfre agency. Players leaving school early. The new agreement that slots drafted players so they are locked in with a low salary for 4 years. All those things have changed how teams view draft picks. Players that leave college early don't have as much experience and are more likely to struggle in the NFL. Look how many QBs are getting drafted in the 1st round after one successful season. Lance is just one example of that.