John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Stfu

Hahaha right? Adding the #1 overall FA, cushioning the QB room, resigning a S that actually gets TOs and resigning some good depth. All by the legal tampering day?

99% of fans would be dying to have this roster.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
So we have lost our starting nickel cb, lost our starting right tackle, and have added a bust qb and hopefully solidified what kinlaw should have been.

Someone tell me how this team is better.

Our starting right tackle, who the Webzone never stopped moaning about. And our 31 year old db who, likewise, frequently hated by the zone.

This bust quarterback you mention is QB3. Oh dear what a disaster! Replacing future HoFer Josh Johnson with a 1st rounder who has never been coached properly in the NFL.. Hopefully solidified what Kinlaw should have been? So, would you have preferred him to take no action?

And this is on day 1. I can't be bothered to tell you how the team is better. Curiously, most of the internet has been able to work that out for themselves.

We generally end up banning supporters of other teams who just come here to make mischief.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Stfu

Hahaha right? Adding the #1 overall FA, cushioning the QB room, resigning a S that actually gets TOs and resigning some good depth. All by the legal tampering day?

99% of fans would be dying to have this roster.

Fantastic moves to shore up the defense. I like Jimmy Ward, but imo Womack or Lenoir and other rookies can be put at the slot. In the end the only way to learn is to play and see what they got. Keeping Gipson allows more freedom yet provides stability too. Its a very methodical/logical approach. Try to maintain an elite defense and hope one of these young QB's takes positive steps. People forget we have 11 picks as well. They can just draft the trenches and secondary like mad. I would also love a speed TE to give Kittle a breather, and obviously o-line. Just draft bodies and hope someone shines. Its all a crapshoot anyways.

Originally posted by krizay:
The starting nickel was overrated IMO. He gave up waaaay too many plays IMO. Yea he had a couple game clinchers but I think that's why he's been so well regarded. Not his overall play.

Losing our starting right tackle I think is going to hurt more than people want to believe. However, if Trey starts we were told QBs like him don't need a good OL so there's that.

If Hargrave is as good as he was last year this defense will take another step forward. even without our starting nickel that we lost.

As for the bust QB, he'll most likely be the best 3rd stringer in the league.

Just can't make a comment without talking about Lance lol

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Fantastic moves to shore up the defense. I like Jimmy Ward, but imo Womack or Lenoir and other rookies can be put at the slot. In the end the only way to learn is to play and see what they got. Keeping Gipson allows more freedom yet provides stability too. Its a very methodical/logical approach. Try to maintain an elite defense and hope one of these young QB's takes positive steps. People forget we have 11 picks as well. They can just draft the trenches and secondary like mad. I would also love a speed TE to give Kittle a breather, and obviously o-line. Just draft bodies and hope someone shines. Its all a crapshoot anyways.

If they don't go the draft route… someone like Julian love would be great. Dude can play in the box, slot, free safety. He doesn't miss tackles. Not sure what his market is but he can play.

Would like Eman back, but I thought Lenoir played well down the stretch on the outside. Need guys there either way.

IMO we need to get a center in here asap.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:
The starting nickel was overrated IMO. He gave up waaaay too many plays IMO. Yea he had a couple game clinchers but I think that's why he's been so well regarded. Not his overall play.

Losing our starting right tackle I think is going to hurt more than people want to believe. However, if Trey starts we were told QBs like him don't need a good OL so there's that.

If Hargrave is as good as he was last year this defense will take another step forward. even without our starting nickel that we lost.

As for the bust QB, he'll most likely be the best 3rd stringer in the league.

Just can't make a comment without talking about Lance lol

He was relevant to the topic. The topic was about us losing our RT. His mobility allegedly masks the need for a superior RT. So I was lead to believe a couple years ago.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:
The starting nickel was overrated IMO. He gave up waaaay too many plays IMO. Yea he had a couple game clinchers but I think that's why he's been so well regarded. Not his overall play.

Losing our starting right tackle I think is going to hurt more than people want to believe. However, if Trey starts we were told QBs like him don't need a good OL so there's that.

If Hargrave is as good as he was last year this defense will take another step forward. even without our starting nickel that we lost.

As for the bust QB, he'll most likely be the best 3rd stringer in the league.

Just can't make a comment without talking about Lance lol

He was relevant to the topic. The topic was about us losing our RT. His mobility allegedly masks the need for a superior RT. So I was lead to believe a couple years ago.

I think that is a bit of an exaggeration. An average QB cannot make a s**tty O line look good. However, an elite QB can certainly make a good O line look great.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I think that is a bit of an exaggeration. An average QB cannot make a s**tty O line look good. However, an elite QB can certainly make a good O line look great.

No, it definitely wasn't an exaggeration. Though I do agree with the rest of your statement.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
So we have lost our starting nickel cb, lost our starting right tackle, and have added a bust qb and hopefully solidified what kinlaw should have been.

Someone tell me how this team is better.

Kudos to Lynch.

He finally understands that you need to be aggressive In order to win super bowls.

Trading for CMC last season and now the signing of Hargrave.

I wonder If we'll see a trade or two In the near future.

Originally posted by krizay:
He was relevant to the topic. The topic was about us losing our RT. His mobility allegedly masks the need for a superior RT. So I was lead to believe a couple years ago.

Lol oh stop it…you had no reason to plop Lance's name in any of that response. For a guy that says he doesn't want to talk about him or go into his thread you sure do talk a lot about him (complain) and spend time in his thread after the fact.

His mobility helps everything. It was never meant to "mask" bad OL pay, but enhance it. It's a positive not a negative and just because you have such distain for mobile QBs doesn't mean you're correct…the league wants that type of QB. OL talent isn't on the same trajectory as DL nowadays. You got 260lb alpha male DEs running 4.5s. They're athletic freaks. The offensive line talent overall isn't there at this point. So you gotta have a QB that can move/protect themselves. It's not the only attribute, but this isn't the 90s or early 2000s. I know you want it to be, but it's not.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I think that is a bit of an exaggeration. An average QB cannot make a s**tty O line look good. However, an elite QB can certainly make a good O line look great.

No, it definitely wasn't an exaggeration. Though I do agree with the rest of your statement.

By the way. How many superior RT's exist in the NFL? Typically the LT spot is reserved for the elite guys unless of course a team is fielding a left handed QB than it would be the opposite.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I think that is a bit of an exaggeration. An average QB cannot make a s**tty O line look good. However, an elite QB can certainly make a good O line look great.

No, it definitely wasn't an exaggeration. Though I do agree with the rest of your statement.

Russell Wilson's time in Seattle comes to mind.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I think that is a bit of an exaggeration. An average QB cannot make a s**tty O line look good. However, an elite QB can certainly make a good O line look great.

Of course it an exaggeration based off what he wants at QB.

having a QB that moves helps everything. It sure as s**t doesn't make it worse. You got a QB that's a statue with a avg OL vs a QB that can move with an avg OL…well it's not rocket science to assume which OL/offense will look better.

and before someone rebuttals with Brady. He's the exception, not the norm.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Russell Wilson's time in Seattle comes to mind.

Watson's OL in Houston was another. Bill's OL is not good.

It's not about just being fast and running. It's about not being just a drop back passer than can't escape pressure. It's being able to throw off platform and evading pressure with you feet behind the LOS. It's about being an actual threat to run on any given play.

FWIW I'm not saying you gotta throw Joe blow out there across the OL. I'm saying having a mobile QB helps everything.