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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

I'm blanking on who the guy is on bottom row 2nd from right.

Kweisi Adofo-Mensah, former analytics guy for us I think, and current Vikings GM.
Lynch & Shanahan have done a great job of bringing in top tier talent, on both sides of the ball, whether draft, trade or free agency.

CMC is a top 10 back no question
Juice best FB
Deebo & Aiyuk IMO are a top 10 WR duo
Kittle top 5 TE
Trent Top LT
Bosa top EDGE
Hargrave & Armstead are top 10-15 at IDL IMO
Fred & Dre are top 10 off the ball LBs
Ward is a top 15 CB IMO
Hufanga same, top 10-15 SS
Pepper & Wish top tier LS & P

Then all the depth, it's crazy how good this team is, just need too stay healthy, and produce.
[ Edited by AB81Rules on Apr 4, 2023 at 11:11 AM ]
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Lynch & Shanahan have done a great job of bringing in top tier talent, on both sides of the ball, whether draft, trade or free agency.

CMC is a top 10 back no question
Juice best FB
Deebo & Aiyuk IMO are a top 10 WR duo
Kittle top 5 TE
Trent Top LT
Bosa top EDGE
Hargrave & Armstead are top 10-15 at IDL IMO
Fred & Dre are top 10 off the ball LBs
Ward is a top 15 CB IMO
Hufanga same, top 10-15 SS
Pepper & Wish top tier LS & P

Then all the depth, it's crazy how good this team is, just need too stay healthy, and produce.

Yep. The injuries have to significantly ease off, though.
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Lynch & Shanahan have done a great job of bringing in top tier talent, on both sides of the ball, whether draft, trade or free agency.

CMC is a top 10 back no question
Juice best FB
Deebo & Aiyuk IMO are a top 10 WR duo
Kittle top 5 TE
Trent Top LT
Bosa top EDGE
Hargrave & Armstead are top 10-15 at IDL IMO
Fred & Dre are top 10 off the ball LBs
Ward is a top 15 CB IMO
Hufanga same, top 10-15 SS
Pepper & Wish top tier LS & P

Then all the depth, it's crazy how good this team is, just need too stay healthy, and produce.

Yep. The injuries have to significantly ease off, though.

No doubt. The flip side of the injuries also meant the FO has had to work overtime on contingency plans and build 3+ deep everywhere, and as a result, has developed the deepest roster in the NFL annually.

And over the past couple years, they continue to add to the higher tier. So they are becoming top heavy and the deepest minus the FQB play (on the field consistently). But we might have that now...just need the health and a bit better play across the board in the playoffs.
[ Edited by NCommand on Apr 6, 2023 at 10:35 AM ]
I've heard they like to smokescreen, but a dinner with Coburn? I'm thinking he has to be a 5th round target.
Interesting topic from Lombardi.

He ranked our position groups.

Offense:
1. RB
2. WR
3. TE
4. OL
5. QB

Defense:
1. LB
2. DL
3. S
4. CB

Can you win a Superbowl with QB + OL and CB your weakest position groups in today's passing game?
[ Edited by NCommand on Apr 11, 2023 at 6:43 AM ]
S is not stronger than Corner.
TE is also not stronger than the OL.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
S is not stronger than Corner.

I think his rationale was Hufunga being an all pro and Gipson was ranked #1 in missed tackles and #2 in pass completion %; or something like that.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
TE is also not stronger than the OL.

I'd probably flip those too, personally.
Originally posted by NCommand:
I think his rationale was Hufunga being an all pro and Gipson was ranked #1 in missed tackles and #2 in pass completion %; or something like that.

Will be lucky to get another quality year from Gibson. There's a reason why he signed for so little. All that's behind at safety right now is a special teamer and a panther guy with limited experience.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I think his rationale was Hufunga being an all pro and Gipson was ranked #1 in missed tackles and #2 in pass completion %; or something like that.

Will be lucky to get another quality year from Gibson. There's a reason why he signed for so little. All that's behind at safety right now is a special teamer and a panther guy with limited experience.

I fully agree. S has to be a top pick this year.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

I'm blanking on who the guy is on bottom row 2nd from right.

Kweisi Adofo-Mensah, former analytics guy for us I think, and current Vikings GM.

Well ya know, the chiefs staff isn't half bad either. That's why we didn't close the door
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
TE is also not stronger than the OL.

So, back to the original question: Can you win a Superbowl with QB + OL and CB your weakest position groups in today's passing game?
Originally posted by NCommand:
Interesting topic from Lombardi.

He ranked our position groups.

Offense:
1. RB
2. WR
3. TE
4. OL
5. QB

Defense:
1. LB
2. DL
3. S
4. CB

Can you win a Superbowl with QB + OL and CB your weakest position groups in today's passing game?

I'd argue that 1-5 are much closer than we usually see on these kinds of list. It's almost like:

Defense:
1A. LB
1B. DL
2A. CB
2B. S

Offense
1A. RB
1B. WR
2A. OL
2B. TE
3. QB

Typically when you see a list like these, the drop offs are large between 1-5. Our team is unusually good at numerous positions as they're littered with Pro bowl and All Pro.
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