John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Interesting topic from Lombardi.

He ranked our position groups.

Offense:
1. RB
2. WR
3. TE
4. OL
5. QB

Defense:
1. LB
2. DL
3. S
4. CB

Can you win a Superbowl with QB + OL and CB your weakest position groups in today's passing game?

I'd argue that 1-5 are much closer than we usually see on these kinds of list. It's almost like:

Defense:
1A. LB
1B. DL
2A. CB
2B. S

Offense
1A. RB
1B. WR
2A. OL
2B. TE
3. QB

Typically when you see a list like these, the drop offs are large between 1-5. Our team is unusually good at numerous positions as they're littered with Pro bowl and All Pro.

Great point. I was just curious what others thought as our weaknesses are in the passing game (health)...volume, QB, TD, pass protection in the playoffs, NFL rules,, etc.

If it was the 80's or even 90's I wouldn't question it as much.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Interesting topic from Lombardi.

He ranked our position groups.

Offense:
1. RB
2. WR
3. TE
4. OL
5. QB

Defense:
1. LB
2. DL
3. S
4. CB

Can you win a Superbowl with QB + OL and CB your weakest position groups in today's passing game?

I'd argue that 1-5 are much closer than we usually see on these kinds of list. It's almost like:

Defense:
1A. LB
1B. DL
2A. CB
2B. S

Offense
1A. RB
1B. WR
2A. OL
2B. TE
3. QB

Typically when you see a list like these, the drop offs are large between 1-5. Our team is unusually good at numerous positions as they're littered with Pro bowl and All Pro.

Great point. I was just curious what others thought as our weaknesses are in the passing game (health)...volume, QB, TD, pass protection in the playoffs, NFL rules,, etc.

If it was the 80's or even 90's I wouldn't question it as much.

Our CBs and D's should be improved this year because of how good Hargreaves is, we didn't have a great pass rush last year outside of Bosa, I expect we will see more sacks from greenlaw/Warner.

our safety's got burned quite a few times last year as well, hopefully that's cleaned up with a better pass rush. I thought our corners played really well, especially down the stretch.

I think our biggest concern is RT. I'm not expecting it to be bad, Per se, but it's a big unknown.

our qb room is unknown but not horrible. We should get reasonable play from purdy (when healthy), Lance/Darnold. Im optimistic Lance will make a nice jump this year.

i don't see us have any concerning overall weakness, outside of kicker. Robbie was very reliable but right now we don't even know who our kicker will be.

Our biggest weakness is overall depth. When you have a good team, depth is always an issue because every year you face cap issues, contract issues and injuries. Adding depth at every position is a good idea since you never know where injuries will strike.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Our biggest weakness is overall depth. When you have a good team, depth is always an issue because every year you face cap issues, contract issues and injuries. Adding depth at every position is a good idea since you never know where injuries will strike.

I agree, it's one of the reasons why I am skeptical of us keeping three QBs, but I'm sure we will because of our injury history.

i think we have good depth at most positions, but our issues will come once those guys have injuries. Especially since we will only a couple mil in salary cap.

I hope we draft another DE (like Yaya), a stud TE (crap depth), O-line (depth is mediocre at best, very unknown), Safety depth isn't great either.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Our biggest weakness is overall depth. When you have a good team, depth is always an issue because every year you face cap issues, contract issues and injuries. Adding depth at every position is a good idea since you never know where injuries will strike.

I agree, it's one of the reasons why I am skeptical of us keeping three QBs, but I'm sure we will because of our injury history.

i think we have good depth at most positions, but our issues will come once those guys have injuries. Especially since we will only a couple mil in salary cap.

I hope we draft another DE (like Yaya), a stud TE (crap depth), O-line (depth is mediocre at best, very unknown), Safety depth isn't great either.

When you draft for depth you go with the best player available at your pick. You can never have too many quality players. You can always trade one if you have a log jam at one position.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
When you draft for depth you go with the best player available at your pick. You can never have too many quality players. You can always trade one if you have a log jam at one position.

Yup. Or trade for guys like the 9ers did with Willis and Omenihu.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Our biggest weakness is overall depth. When you have a good team, depth is always an issue because every year you face cap issues, contract issues and injuries. Adding depth at every position is a good idea since you never know where injuries will strike.

I agree, it's one of the reasons why I am skeptical of us keeping three QBs, but I'm sure we will because of our injury history.

i think we have good depth at most positions, but our issues will come once those guys have injuries. Especially since we will only a couple mil in salary cap.

I hope we draft another DE (like Yaya), a stud TE (crap depth), O-line (depth is mediocre at best, very unknown), Safety depth isn't great either.

When you draft for depth you go with the best player available at your pick. You can never have too many quality players. You can always trade one if you have a log jam at one position.

I agree. The age old saying is "always draft BPA" but we all know that isn't always realistic. We are fortunate to be in a position to be able to draft who we believe to be the best player left on the board when we pick.

end of the third round is going to be fun, if we don't trade forward/back, since we have nearly 3 picks in a row. I think it's 3/4 or something like that.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
When you draft for depth you go with the best player available at your pick. You can never have too many quality players. You can always trade one if you have a log jam at one position.

Yup. Or trade for guys like the 9ers did with Willis and Omenihu.

Good call!

Landed top 5 in the GM ranks

here is the writeup:

Former Patriots decision maker Scott Pioli used to keep a framed photo on his desk of 2000 fifth-round tight end Dave Stachelski, taken one round ahead of Tom Brady, as a reminder that the front office wasn't that smart. That's why I hesitate to give too much credit to Lynch and Shanahan for finding seventh-round gem Brock Purdy, who helped lead the team to the playoffs as a rookie quarterback last season -- although there's no denying that Shanahan understands what works in his system.

The 49ers deserve more credit for finding and maintaining so much talent everywhere else that they've thrived despite all the resources used (including first-round picks in 2022 and '23) in the 2021 trade up to draft Trey Lance, who has attempted 102 passes since. Lynch has helped find core pieces through the draft (receiver Brandon Aiyuk, safety Talanoa Hufanga), free agency (corner Charvarius Ward, defensive tackle Javon Hargrave) and trades (running back Christian McCaffrey, left tackle Trent Williams). The Niners build strength on strength and stay focused on line play, like the Eagles. That said, the offensive line could use some work in the draft.

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-gm-power-rankings-eagles-howie-roseman-reigns-while-brad-holmes-makes-his-ma

Originally posted by NYniner85:

The best in the business 😎@greggrosenthal full power rankings: https://t.co/7vFqkp7lCn pic.twitter.com/Pw7S1AEwFn

— NFL GameDay (@NFLGameDay) April 13, 2023

They snuck Jerrah on at #10 just to get angry tweets from Cowgirl fans complaining that he's too high

also I don't see Baalke

Originally posted by NYniner85:

The best in the business 😎@greggrosenthal full power rankings: https://t.co/7vFqkp7lCn pic.twitter.com/Pw7S1AEwFn

— NFL GameDay (@NFLGameDay) April 13, 2023

Don't know what Brian Gutekunst has done to deserve being #8 on that list.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Don't know what Brian Gutekunst has done to deserve being #8 on that list.

Agree with you there Ring. Seems like all he's done is ride the success of Aaron Rodgers since he was hired. Since Gutekunst was hired in 2018, his teams haven't gone past the NFCC once.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

The best in the business 😎@greggrosenthal full power rankings: https://t.co/7vFqkp7lCn pic.twitter.com/Pw7S1AEwFn

— NFL GameDay (@NFLGameDay) April 13, 2023

Don't know what Brian Gutekunst has done to deserve being #8 on that list.

I'm saying that about Jones! I love Shanalynch's ranking, but now struggling to give credence to any group ranking Jerry Jones in the top 20.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

The best in the business 😎@greggrosenthal full power rankings: https://t.co/7vFqkp7lCn pic.twitter.com/Pw7S1AEwFn

— NFL GameDay (@NFLGameDay) April 13, 2023

Don't know what Brian Gutekunst has done to deserve being #8 on that list.

I'm saying that about Jones! I love Shanalynch's ranking, but now struggling to give credence to any group ranking Jerry Jones in the top 20.

Looks like he just went by teams that have the top QB's or records from last year.