John Lynch - 49ers GM

Go trade for Brian Burns now!

Originally posted by Chance:
I'm am a pretty big fan of this FO, but I do worry that they caved in the Bosa negotiations. On one hand, getting Bosa in the building before week one was a big win, and something this team needs as we chase a championship this season. But I do worry that we didn't stick to our guns for a deal with less guaranteed money. Resetting the market is one thing, but Bosa's contract blew the lid off of it. It's a big gamble, and should the worst case scenario happen, that Bosa gets injured, this contract will be a giant albatross on this team's neck. To put it simply, it's a big risk to dedicate that much guaranteed money to one player. I don't want to dwell in the pessimistic side of things, and generally I'm optimistic about Bosa since he's so committed to the craft and his body. If any non-QB in the NFL is worthy of being the highest paid, it's this guy. Please stay healthy, Nick. Let's go win some championships.

I felt this way last year about Deebo. I love me some deebo but IMO he was replaceable at a lot cheaper price. May not have found a guy with his exact skillset but his production was replaceable.

Nick Bosa is a different kind of dude and I get overpaying him.

Originally posted by krizay:
I felt this way last year about Deebo. I love me some deebo but IMO he was replaceable at a lot cheaper price. May not have found a guy with his exact skillset but his production was replaceable.

Nick Bosa is a different kind of dude and I get overpaying him.

i don't agree about Deebo i don't think he is that replaceable he is the best player in the NFL with the ball in his hands and he is 100% game planned for by every team

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Chance:

I'm am a pretty big fan of this FO, but I do worry that they caved in the Bosa negotiations. On one hand, getting Bosa in the building before week one was a big win, and something this team needs as we chase a championship this season. But I do worry that we didn't stick to our guns for a deal with less guaranteed money. Resetting the market is one thing, but Bosa's contract blew the lid off of it. It's a big gamble, and should the worst case scenario happen, that Bosa gets injured, this contract will be a giant albatross on this team's neck. To put it simply, it's a big risk to dedicate that much guaranteed money to one player. I don't want to dwell in the pessimistic side of things, and generally I'm optimistic about Bosa since he's so committed to the craft and his body. If any non-QB in the NFL is worthy of being the highest paid, it's this guy. Please stay healthy, Nick. Let's go win some championships.

I felt this way last year about Deebo. I love me some deebo but IMO he was replaceable at a lot cheaper price. May not have found a guy with his exact skillset but his production was replaceable.

Nick Bosa is a different kind of dude and I get overpaying him.

So a few things:

- The immediate reaction every year is that these types of contracts are an "overpay". Jimmy G's contract was an overpay as it was the largest contract in NFL history. 1-2 years later, he was at a mid-tier contract as it pertains to vet starters. Wait 1-2 years and then evaluate.

- It's hard to draft players in the NFL, let alone blue chip elite players at premium positions. The NFL isn't the MLB where you develop talent and then flip for picks. You find them, develop them, and pay them, especially if they are elite. We made a mistake with Buckner, this FO isn't doing the same with Bosa.

- In 1-2 seasons, it's likely that Armstead, Williams, CMC, Samuel/Aiyuk, and Hargrave will either be a) retired, b) take pay cuts, or c) off the team due to FA and/or age. We'll also have $10M in dead cap off the books. That's essentially 40% of our cap with a good portion easily freed up in that time range. If so, then we won't have material cap constraints paired with a full arsenal of draft assets.

It might be the most difficult trying to find a decent kicker middle of the season if the current ones can't kick straight. Teams usually don't carry backup kickers or trade away one middle of the season. Let's go John Lynch

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Niner Faithfuls about to go all in to kick his ass until the breaking news on Bosa saved him.

Lynch aint looking at yesterday......

The dude is cold blooded and really is not worried about the talking heads....

He got the best duel threat RB in the league, the best defender in free agency, dropped Trey Lance off at a yard sale, resigned the best defender in the league and has now created 10s of millions in cap space.

I would not be shocked at ALL if he dumps high draft picks to grab another win now player.

I think its an injury insurance thing. They cleared the cap so they can get a player just in case a current player goes down, they can trade for a replacement player and plug and play before the trade deadline.

Personally I'm hoping the Chargers suck this year and they trade Slater (or Joey Bosa) to us like the Panthers traded CMC to us last year because they need the cap space and draft capital to attract a new coach.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Niner Faithfuls about to go all in to kick his ass until the breaking news on Bosa saved him.

Lynch aint looking at yesterday......

The dude is cold blooded and really is not worried about the talking heads....

He got the best duel threat RB in the league, the best defender in free agency, dropped Trey Lance off at a yard sale, resigned the best defender in the league and has now created 10s of millions in cap space.

I would not be shocked at ALL if he dumps high draft picks to grab another win now player.

I think its an injury insurance thing. They cleared the cap so they can get a player just in case a current player goes down, they can trade for a replacement player and plug and play before the trade deadline.

Personally I'm hoping the Chargers suck this year and they trade Slater (or Joey Bosa) to us like the Panthers traded CMC to us last year because they need the cap space and draft capital to attract a new coach.

we could even bring in Burns from Carolina

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
It might be the most difficult trying to find a decent kicker middle of the season if the current ones can't kick straight. Teams usually don't carry backup kickers or trade away one middle of the season. Let's go John Lynch

Throw money at Gould if it comes to that.

Originally posted by braap49er:
Go trade for Brian Burns now!

Shoot how about just go get Joey Bosa!!!! I think his cap hit is only $15 million.

Originally posted by Chance:
I'm am a pretty big fan of this FO, but I do worry that they caved in the Bosa negotiations. On one hand, getting Bosa in the building before week one was a big win, and something this team needs as we chase a championship this season. But I do worry that we didn't stick to our guns for a deal with less guaranteed money. Resetting the market is one thing, but Bosa's contract blew the lid off of it. It's a big gamble, and should the worst case scenario happen, that Bosa gets injured, this contract will be a giant albatross on this team's neck. To put it simply, it's a big risk to dedicate that much guaranteed money to one player. I don't want to dwell in the pessimistic side of things, and generally I'm optimistic about Bosa since he's so committed to the craft and his body. If any non-QB in the NFL is worthy of being the highest paid, it's this guy. Please stay healthy, Nick. Let's go win some championships.

I don't think his contract blew the lid off the market. All these new deals for these star players are like this bc they know the cap is going up more and more.
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Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by krizay:
I felt this way last year about Deebo. I love me some deebo but IMO he was replaceable at a lot cheaper price. May not have found a guy with his exact skillset but his production was replaceable.

Nick Bosa is a different kind of dude and I get overpaying him.

i don't agree about Deebo i don't think he is that replaceable he is the best player in the NFL with the ball in his hands and he is 100% game planned for by every team

If people think Deebo is easily replaceable and that Bell is that replacement they are insane

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by Chance:
I'm am a pretty big fan of this FO, but I do worry that they caved in the Bosa negotiations. On one hand, getting Bosa in the building before week one was a big win, and something this team needs as we chase a championship this season. But I do worry that we didn't stick to our guns for a deal with less guaranteed money. Resetting the market is one thing, but Bosa's contract blew the lid off of it. It's a big gamble, and should the worst case scenario happen, that Bosa gets injured, this contract will be a giant albatross on this team's neck. To put it simply, it's a big risk to dedicate that much guaranteed money to one player. I don't want to dwell in the pessimistic side of things, and generally I'm optimistic about Bosa since he's so committed to the craft and his body. If any non-QB in the NFL is worthy of being the highest paid, it's this guy. Please stay healthy, Nick. Let's go win some championships.

I don't think his contract blew the lid off the market. All these new deals for these star players are like this bc they know the cap is going up more and more.
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Folks worried about the Bosa contract are gonna be in for a surprise when it's Parsons turn

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by Chance:
I'm am a pretty big fan of this FO, but I do worry that they caved in the Bosa negotiations. On one hand, getting Bosa in the building before week one was a big win, and something this team needs as we chase a championship this season. But I do worry that we didn't stick to our guns for a deal with less guaranteed money. Resetting the market is one thing, but Bosa's contract blew the lid off of it. It's a big gamble, and should the worst case scenario happen, that Bosa gets injured, this contract will be a giant albatross on this team's neck. To put it simply, it's a big risk to dedicate that much guaranteed money to one player. I don't want to dwell in the pessimistic side of things, and generally I'm optimistic about Bosa since he's so committed to the craft and his body. If any non-QB in the NFL is worthy of being the highest paid, it's this guy. Please stay healthy, Nick. Let's go win some championships.

I don't think his contract blew the lid off the market. All these new deals for these star players are like this bc they know the cap is going up more and more.
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It did for guaranteed money, which is what I'm referring, not the overall per year number. Guaranteed money is riskier to the org since it all but chains our organization to the health of Bosa these next six years. Regardless, the guarantee was going to be significant, but this is just bonkers.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by Chance:

I'm am a pretty big fan of this FO, but I do worry that they caved in the Bosa negotiations. On one hand, getting Bosa in the building before week one was a big win, and something this team needs as we chase a championship this season. But I do worry that we didn't stick to our guns for a deal with less guaranteed money. Resetting the market is one thing, but Bosa's contract blew the lid off of it. It's a big gamble, and should the worst case scenario happen, that Bosa gets injured, this contract will be a giant albatross on this team's neck. To put it simply, it's a big risk to dedicate that much guaranteed money to one player. I don't want to dwell in the pessimistic side of things, and generally I'm optimistic about Bosa since he's so committed to the craft and his body. If any non-QB in the NFL is worthy of being the highest paid, it's this guy. Please stay healthy, Nick. Let's go win some championships.

I don't think his contract blew the lid off the market. All these new deals for these star players are like this bc they know the cap is going up more and more.
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It did for guaranteed money, which is what I'm referring, not the overall per year number. Guaranteed money is riskier to the org since it all but chains our organization to the health of Bosa these next six years. Regardless, the guarantee was going to be significant, but this is just bonkers.

Players are getting smart with the gtd money.

Lynch sending D Hopkins to VM

lol