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Originally posted by Wubbie:
Hmmm.. Just skimming through drafts. In the last decade or so, there have been a couple Pro Bowl tackles outside of the Top 10 (first round only):
- Tristan Werfs, 13th Overall, 2020
- Laremy Tunsil, 13th Overall, 2016
- D.J. Humphries, 24th Overall, 2015
- Taylor Lewan, 11th Overall, 2014
Originally posted by Wubbie:Even on this list, 3 were top 13th picks.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Wubbie:we're not going to find any one close to TW with a late first round draft pick
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
They haven't had a 1st round pick thelast 2 drafts and a 2nd rounder in one of them. This season they have the opportunity to prioritize tackle and CB in a draft strong at OL
Yeah they definitely need to prioritize finding Trent Williams' replacement. Man is still playing at an elite level, but it does sound like he's at the point where he'll think about retirement every offseason.
You never know. Who thought we would find a QB like Brock with the last pick in the draft. There are so many QBs and O linemen in this draft that quality could still be there at the Niners slot. They could also move up if they wanted a guy bad enough since they have so many picks.
Hmmm.. Just skimming through drafts. In the last decade or so, there have been a couple Pro Bowl tackles outside of the Top 10 (first round only):
- Tristan Werfs, 13th Overall, 2020
- Laremy Tunsil, 13th Overall, 2016
- D.J. Humphries, 24th Overall, 2015
- Taylor Lewan, 11th Overall, 2014
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by Wubbie:Even on this list, 3 were top 13th picks.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Wubbie:we're not going to find any one close to TW with a late first round draft pick
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
They haven't had a 1st round pick thelast 2 drafts and a 2nd rounder in one of them. This season they have the opportunity to prioritize tackle and CB in a draft strong at OL
Yeah they definitely need to prioritize finding Trent Williams' replacement. Man is still playing at an elite level, but it does sound like he's at the point where he'll think about retirement every offseason.
You never know. Who thought we would find a QB like Brock with the last pick in the draft. There are so many QBs and O linemen in this draft that quality could still be there at the Niners slot. They could also move up if they wanted a guy bad enough since they have so many picks.
Hmmm.. Just skimming through drafts. In the last decade or so, there have been a couple Pro Bowl tackles outside of the Top 10 (first round only):
- Tristan Werfs, 13th Overall, 2020
- Laremy Tunsil, 13th Overall, 2016
- D.J. Humphries, 24th Overall, 2015
- Taylor Lewan, 11th Overall, 2014
A top 13 pick is really outside of our reach, unless you want to throw a bunch of draft capitals to trade up.
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by Wubbie:Even on this list, 3 were top 13th picks.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Wubbie:we're not going to find any one close to TW with a late first round draft pick
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
They haven't had a 1st round pick thelast 2 drafts and a 2nd rounder in one of them. This season they have the opportunity to prioritize tackle and CB in a draft strong at OL
Yeah they definitely need to prioritize finding Trent Williams' replacement. Man is still playing at an elite level, but it does sound like he's at the point where he'll think about retirement every offseason.
You never know. Who thought we would find a QB like Brock with the last pick in the draft. There are so many QBs and O linemen in this draft that quality could still be there at the Niners slot. They could also move up if they wanted a guy bad enough since they have so many picks.
Hmmm.. Just skimming through drafts. In the last decade or so, there have been a couple Pro Bowl tackles outside of the Top 10 (first round only):
- Tristan Werfs, 13th Overall, 2020
- Laremy Tunsil, 13th Overall, 2016
- D.J. Humphries, 24th Overall, 2015
- Taylor Lewan, 11th Overall, 2014
A top 13 pick is really outside of our reach, unless you want to throw a bunch of draft capitals to trade up.
Yeah, we'd most certainly have to trade up. (Left) Tackle definitely feels like a premium position on draft day.
Could get a late round left tackle. Our own draft history has seen us draft Joe Staley, a multiple time Pro Bowler. But we've also drafted Mike McGlinchey at similar position.
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Hmmm.. Just skimming through drafts. In the last decade or so, there have been a couple Pro Bowl tackles outside of the Top 10 (first round only):
- Tristan Werfs, 13th Overall, 2020
- Laremy Tunsil, 13th Overall, 2016
- D.J. Humphries, 24th Overall, 2015
- Taylor Lewan, 11th Overall, 2014
And Joe Staley was a 28th Overall in 2007.
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by Wubbie:Even on this list, 3 were top 13th picks.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Wubbie:we're not going to find any one close to TW with a late first round draft pick
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
They haven't had a 1st round pick thelast 2 drafts and a 2nd rounder in one of them. This season they have the opportunity to prioritize tackle and CB in a draft strong at OL
Yeah they definitely need to prioritize finding Trent Williams' replacement. Man is still playing at an elite level, but it does sound like he's at the point where he'll think about retirement every offseason.
You never know. Who thought we would find a QB like Brock with the last pick in the draft. There are so many QBs and O linemen in this draft that quality could still be there at the Niners slot. They could also move up if they wanted a guy bad enough since they have so many picks.
Hmmm.. Just skimming through drafts. In the last decade or so, there have been a couple Pro Bowl tackles outside of the Top 10 (first round only):
- Tristan Werfs, 13th Overall, 2020
- Laremy Tunsil, 13th Overall, 2016
- D.J. Humphries, 24th Overall, 2015
- Taylor Lewan, 11th Overall, 2014
A top 13 pick is really outside of our reach, unless you want to throw a bunch of draft capitals to trade up.
Yeah, we'd most certainly have to trade up. (Left) Tackle definitely feels like a premium position on draft day.
Could get a late round left tackle. Our own draft history has seen us draft Joe Staley, a multiple time Pro Bowler. But we've also drafted Mike McGlinchey at similar position.
We would probably need to trade our 1st round, next season's 1st round, plus maybe our 2nd round pick to get to a top 15 pick.
Unless Trent retires this off-season, I don't think we would go that route in the middle of our Super Bowl window.
Originally posted by libertyforever:Pretty risky to trade all that for a Tackle.. might be cheaper to go through FA
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by Wubbie:Even on this list, 3 were top 13th picks.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Wubbie:we're not going to find any one close to TW with a late first round draft pick
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
They haven't had a 1st round pick thelast 2 drafts and a 2nd rounder in one of them. This season they have the opportunity to prioritize tackle and CB in a draft strong at OL
Yeah they definitely need to prioritize finding Trent Williams' replacement. Man is still playing at an elite level, but it does sound like he's at the point where he'll think about retirement every offseason.
You never know. Who thought we would find a QB like Brock with the last pick in the draft. There are so many QBs and O linemen in this draft that quality could still be there at the Niners slot. They could also move up if they wanted a guy bad enough since they have so many picks.
Hmmm.. Just skimming through drafts. In the last decade or so, there have been a couple Pro Bowl tackles outside of the Top 10 (first round only):
- Tristan Werfs, 13th Overall, 2020
- Laremy Tunsil, 13th Overall, 2016
- D.J. Humphries, 24th Overall, 2015
- Taylor Lewan, 11th Overall, 2014
A top 13 pick is really outside of our reach, unless you want to throw a bunch of draft capitals to trade up.
Yeah, we'd most certainly have to trade up. (Left) Tackle definitely feels like a premium position on draft day.
Could get a late round left tackle. Our own draft history has seen us draft Joe Staley, a multiple time Pro Bowler. But we've also drafted Mike McGlinchey at similar position.
We would probably need to trade our 1st round, next season's 1st round, plus maybe our 2nd round pick to get to a top 15 pick.
Unless Trent retires this off-season, I don't think we would go that route in the middle of our Super Bowl window.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by libertyforever:Pretty risky to trade all that for a Tackle.. might be cheaper to go through FA
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by Wubbie:Even on this list, 3 were top 13th picks.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Wubbie:we're not going to find any one close to TW with a late first round draft pick
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
They haven't had a 1st round pick thelast 2 drafts and a 2nd rounder in one of them. This season they have the opportunity to prioritize tackle and CB in a draft strong at OL
Yeah they definitely need to prioritize finding Trent Williams' replacement. Man is still playing at an elite level, but it does sound like he's at the point where he'll think about retirement every offseason.
You never know. Who thought we would find a QB like Brock with the last pick in the draft. There are so many QBs and O linemen in this draft that quality could still be there at the Niners slot. They could also move up if they wanted a guy bad enough since they have so many picks.
Hmmm.. Just skimming through drafts. In the last decade or so, there have been a couple Pro Bowl tackles outside of the Top 10 (first round only):
- Tristan Werfs, 13th Overall, 2020
- Laremy Tunsil, 13th Overall, 2016
- D.J. Humphries, 24th Overall, 2015
- Taylor Lewan, 11th Overall, 2014
A top 13 pick is really outside of our reach, unless you want to throw a bunch of draft capitals to trade up.
Yeah, we'd most certainly have to trade up. (Left) Tackle definitely feels like a premium position on draft day.
Could get a late round left tackle. Our own draft history has seen us draft Joe Staley, a multiple time Pro Bowler. But we've also drafted Mike McGlinchey at similar position.
We would probably need to trade our 1st round, next season's 1st round, plus maybe our 2nd round pick to get to a top 15 pick.
Unless Trent retires this off-season, I don't think we would go that route in the middle of our Super Bowl window.
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by libertyforever:Pretty risky to trade all that for a Tackle.. might be cheaper to go through FA
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by Wubbie:Even on this list, 3 were top 13th picks.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Wubbie:we're not going to find any one close to TW with a late first round draft pick
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
They haven't had a 1st round pick thelast 2 drafts and a 2nd rounder in one of them. This season they have the opportunity to prioritize tackle and CB in a draft strong at OL
Yeah they definitely need to prioritize finding Trent Williams' replacement. Man is still playing at an elite level, but it does sound like he's at the point where he'll think about retirement every offseason.
You never know. Who thought we would find a QB like Brock with the last pick in the draft. There are so many QBs and O linemen in this draft that quality could still be there at the Niners slot. They could also move up if they wanted a guy bad enough since they have so many picks.
Hmmm.. Just skimming through drafts. In the last decade or so, there have been a couple Pro Bowl tackles outside of the Top 10 (first round only):
- Tristan Werfs, 13th Overall, 2020
- Laremy Tunsil, 13th Overall, 2016
- D.J. Humphries, 24th Overall, 2015
- Taylor Lewan, 11th Overall, 2014
A top 13 pick is really outside of our reach, unless you want to throw a bunch of draft capitals to trade up.
Yeah, we'd most certainly have to trade up. (Left) Tackle definitely feels like a premium position on draft day.
Could get a late round left tackle. Our own draft history has seen us draft Joe Staley, a multiple time Pro Bowler. But we've also drafted Mike McGlinchey at similar position.
We would probably need to trade our 1st round, next season's 1st round, plus maybe our 2nd round pick to get to a top 15 pick.
Unless Trent retires this off-season, I don't think we would go that route in the middle of our Super Bowl window.
Yeah, I don't particularly like the idea of trading a ton for a rookie Tackle.
But I don't mind trading for an established left tackle, if one becomes available. (They RARELY become available by trade though. Trent Williams coming to us the year the offseason that Staley retired was incredibly fortunate)
Originally posted by libertyforever:with those great moves and how solid this team is, we can afford to dip a little more in the OL draft pool and still pick up skill depth
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by libertyforever:Pretty risky to trade all that for a Tackle.. might be cheaper to go through FA
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by Wubbie:Even on this list, 3 were top 13th picks.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Wubbie:we're not going to find any one close to TW with a late first round draft pick
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
They haven't had a 1st round pick thelast 2 drafts and a 2nd rounder in one of them. This season they have the opportunity to prioritize tackle and CB in a draft strong at OL
Yeah they definitely need to prioritize finding Trent Williams' replacement. Man is still playing at an elite level, but it does sound like he's at the point where he'll think about retirement every offseason.
You never know. Who thought we would find a QB like Brock with the last pick in the draft. There are so many QBs and O linemen in this draft that quality could still be there at the Niners slot. They could also move up if they wanted a guy bad enough since they have so many picks.
Hmmm.. Just skimming through drafts. In the last decade or so, there have been a couple Pro Bowl tackles outside of the Top 10 (first round only):
- Tristan Werfs, 13th Overall, 2020
- Laremy Tunsil, 13th Overall, 2016
- D.J. Humphries, 24th Overall, 2015
- Taylor Lewan, 11th Overall, 2014
A top 13 pick is really outside of our reach, unless you want to throw a bunch of draft capitals to trade up.
Yeah, we'd most certainly have to trade up. (Left) Tackle definitely feels like a premium position on draft day.
Could get a late round left tackle. Our own draft history has seen us draft Joe Staley, a multiple time Pro Bowler. But we've also drafted Mike McGlinchey at similar position.
We would probably need to trade our 1st round, next season's 1st round, plus maybe our 2nd round pick to get to a top 15 pick.
Unless Trent retires this off-season, I don't think we would go that route in the middle of our Super Bowl window.
Yeah, I don't particularly like the idea of trading a ton for a rookie Tackle.
But I don't mind trading for an established left tackle, if one becomes available. (They RARELY become available by trade though. Trent Williams coming to us the year the offseason that Staley retired was incredibly fortunate)
Both fortunate as well as excellent executions to acquired TW, CMC, Jimmy G, Chase Y, and Gregory via trade.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Brian O'Neill of Minnesota was a Pro Bowler at left tackle, drafted in the late 2nd round.
Trent Brown was a 7th round pick.
Jordan Mailata was a 7th round pick
David Bakhtiari was a 4th round pick
Orlando Brown was a 3rd round pick
Braden Smith was a 2nd round pick
Terron Armstead was a 3rd round pick
Originally posted by libertyforever:
We would probably need to trade our 1st round, next season's 1st round, plus maybe our 2nd round pick to get to a top 15 pick.
Unless Trent retires this off-season, I don't think we would go that route in the middle of our Super Bowl window.
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
We have the best roster in football, but you can't have star players in every position. Somethings have to give.
The team chose to prioritize resources in offensive skill positions, LT, and Defensive front 6. If you want a tier 1 OL, then which positions are you willing to throw less resources at?
Skill positions? Let Aiyuk walk? Trade CMC, Kittle, and or Deebo?
How about defensive front 6? Trade Bosa, Warner, or Hargreaves? Let Chase Young walk?
You tell me what you want that is realistic.
The draft is the great equalizer. Its where you can find quality OL on the cheap. Its how the Eagles have been able to have excellent OL's, they've done a good job drafting them. What the 49ers need to do is simply stop wasting so many draft picks. Trey Sermon, TDP, Danny Gray and now Cameron Latu who looked like he was in no way ready to play on an NFL roster before he ended up on IR. You gotta get more output of the middle rounds, especially once you start paying Purdy the real big money.
Over the last 7 years, this team has arguably been the best in the league in terms building the roster. If your answer is to just do it even better. Ok. But I don't consider that to be a real realistic answer. A realistic answer has to be prioritize the OL and less on other positions. Which other positions can you throw less resources at. That is the real question.
You can certainly play the hindsight game and look at all the steals in the draft and conclude if we drafted all of them we would be great. That is not realistic to me.
The Eagles example doesn't work IMO because I would argue we have a more talented roster overall. It certainly doesn't seem like they throw as much resources at the offensive skill positions, LBs, and DBs compared to us. So at the end of the day it is the same question. Which other positions do you want to throw resources at?
Feels weird:
--- Trent Williams: Trade Acquisition
--- Aaron Banks: 2nd Round Pick
--- Jake Brendel: Free Agent
--- Spencer Burford: 4th Round Pick
--- Colton McKivitz: 5th Round Pick
Moore (5th round), Zakelj (6th round).
In the past, we paid big money to acquire Weston Richburg and signed Alex Mack.
Our offensive line acquisitions don't feel like a priority and almost feels patchwork, in a way. I think part of it is, obviously, it's not our top priority. But secondly, I think Shanahan prefers very specific things from offensive linemen in the zone run game, so that kind of forces us to look for very specific linemen.
Brendel, on re-draft (if he was drafted), I'd place him at minimum a 3rd round pick. An undrafted guy like Brendel, performing at almost a first string all pro level is impressive. Credit to Foerster on that one. One of the impressive keys to the development of this team is that there are some good players acquired in the lower rounds and in the undrafted. Example: Mason, Ronnie Bell, Kalia Davis etc...
If there is one radical draft strategy I'd contemplate is simply trading down some high round picks to acquire more lower round picks. For example, the Cameron Latu pick - if there was no OLine worthy of a 3rd round pick at that point, but there is a priority for getting OLine help, and the OLine class was subpar, why not just trade down that pick and get multiple picks in the lower rounds, and *one or two* of those lower round picks could be a Offensive Line value pick.
In this roster, how many rookies will make the team? You pretty much have to cut many of them before knowing whether they can play or not.
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
We have the best roster in football, but you can't have star players in every position. Somethings have to give.
The team chose to prioritize resources in offensive skill positions, LT, and Defensive front 6. If you want a tier 1 OL, then which positions are you willing to throw less resources at?
Skill positions? Let Aiyuk walk? Trade CMC, Kittle, and or Deebo?
How about defensive front 6? Trade Bosa, Warner, or Hargreaves? Let Chase Young walk?
You tell me what you want that is realistic.
The draft is the great equalizer. Its where you can find quality OL on the cheap. Its how the Eagles have been able to have excellent OL's, they've done a good job drafting them. What the 49ers need to do is simply stop wasting so many draft picks. Trey Sermon, TDP, Danny Gray and now Cameron Latu who looked like he was in no way ready to play on an NFL roster before he ended up on IR. You gotta get more output of the middle rounds, especially once you start paying Purdy the real big money.
Over the last 7 years, this team has arguably been the best in the league in terms building the roster. If your answer is to just do it even better. Ok. But I don't consider that to be a real realistic answer. A realistic answer has to be prioritize the OL and less on other positions. Which other positions can you throw less resources at. That is the real question.
You can certainly play the hindsight game and look at all the steals in the draft and conclude if we drafted all of them we would be great. That is not realistic to me.
The Eagles example doesn't work IMO because I would argue we have a more talented roster overall. It certainly doesn't seem like they throw as much resources at the offensive skill positions, LBs, and DBs compared to us. So at the end of the day it is the same question. Which other positions do you want to throw resources at?
Feels weird:
--- Trent Williams: Trade Acquisition
--- Aaron Banks: 2nd Round Pick
--- Jake Brendel: Free Agent
--- Spencer Burford: 4th Round Pick
--- Colton McKivitz: 5th Round Pick
Moore (5th round), Zakelj (6th round).
In the past, we paid big money to acquire Weston Richburg and signed Alex Mack.
Our offensive line acquisitions don't feel like a priority and almost feels patchwork, in a way. I think part of it is, obviously, it's not our top priority. But secondly, I think Shanahan prefers very specific things from offensive linemen in the zone run game, so that kind of forces us to look for very specific linemen.
You missed first round pick McGlinchey.
Yes, OL wasn't a priority. If you want the OL to be the priority, then which other position group you want to be less of a priority?
I don't know if you have to sacrifice a position group, specially with the comp picks Kyle is getting from his coaches getting poached. I know they are only 3rd round picks or lower, but that still helps to shore up any weak positions on the team. I think it's almost a sure thing that Anthony Lynn is gone by next year and is a HC somewhere else. That's possibly two extra third round picks in the future.
Comps picks are at the end of the 3rd round. You can look at it from the draft pick value perspective. It is not much. A team that finished the season for drafting two spots ahead gets same same value as an extra 3rd round comp pick. It is weird to think like we got a bunch of value and can address all of the position groups and no prioritization is needed.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
We have the best roster in football, but you can't have star players in every position. Somethings have to give.
The team chose to prioritize resources in offensive skill positions, LT, and Defensive front 6. If you want a tier 1 OL, then which positions are you willing to throw less resources at?
Skill positions? Let Aiyuk walk? Trade CMC, Kittle, and or Deebo?
How about defensive front 6? Trade Bosa, Warner, or Hargreaves? Let Chase Young walk?
You tell me what you want that is realistic.
The draft is the great equalizer. Its where you can find quality OL on the cheap. Its how the Eagles have been able to have excellent OL's, they've done a good job drafting them. What the 49ers need to do is simply stop wasting so many draft picks. Trey Sermon, TDP, Danny Gray and now Cameron Latu who looked like he was in no way ready to play on an NFL roster before he ended up on IR. You gotta get more output of the middle rounds, especially once you start paying Purdy the real big money.
Over the last 7 years, this team has arguably been the best in the league in terms building the roster. If your answer is to just do it even better. Ok. But I don't consider that to be a real realistic answer. A realistic answer has to be prioritize the OL and less on other positions. Which other positions can you throw less resources at. That is the real question.
You can certainly play the hindsight game and look at all the steals in the draft and conclude if we drafted all of them we would be great. That is not realistic to me.
The Eagles example doesn't work IMO because I would argue we have a more talented roster overall. It certainly doesn't seem like they throw as much resources at the offensive skill positions, LBs, and DBs compared to us. So at the end of the day it is the same question. Which other positions do you want to throw resources at?
Feels weird:
--- Trent Williams: Trade Acquisition
--- Aaron Banks: 2nd Round Pick
--- Jake Brendel: Free Agent
--- Spencer Burford: 4th Round Pick
--- Colton McKivitz: 5th Round Pick
Moore (5th round), Zakelj (6th round).
In the past, we paid big money to acquire Weston Richburg and signed Alex Mack.
Our offensive line acquisitions don't feel like a priority and almost feels patchwork, in a way. I think part of it is, obviously, it's not our top priority. But secondly, I think Shanahan prefers very specific things from offensive linemen in the zone run game, so that kind of forces us to look for very specific linemen.
Brendel, on re-draft (if he was drafted), I'd place him at minimum a 3rd round pick. An undrafted guy like Brendel, performing at almost a first string all pro level is impressive. Credit to Foerster on that one. One of the impressive keys to the development of this team is that there are some good players acquired in the lower rounds and in the undrafted. Example: Mason, Ronnie Bell, Kalia Davis etc...
If there is one radical draft strategy I'd contemplate is simply trading down some high round picks to acquire more lower round picks. For example, the Cameron Latu pick - if there was no OLine worthy of a 3rd round pick at that point, but there is a priority for getting OLine help, and the OLine class was subpar, why not just trade down that pick and get multiple picks in the lower rounds, and *one or two* of those lower round picks could be a Offensive Line value pick.
In this roster, how many rookies will make the team? You pretty much have to cut many of them before knowing whether they can play or not.
Well, you are going to lose some folks. I don't know if you can keep Aiyuk *and* Jauan, as an example. Or Chase Young *and* Randy Gregory. If you don't think they can make the team, there's the practice squad. Point is that they drafted Purdy thinking he's going to the practice squad (2 million for Sudfed) but he winds up being better than Sudfeld. Same thing can happen at other positions.