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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by maxsmart:
This was a historically deep and talented tackle draft. And the 49ers got zero tackles.
Only time will tell, but should have picked Kingsley, (or traded up for Rosengarten)

I'm mad about that too, honestly, best tackle class I've seen in a long time. But I also like the players we got and think it was a good draft, best in a couple years. Maybe Adam Peters was the problem?

I think It's because Kyle and Lynch we're more than happy with Mcvitiz starting at right tackle again.
Why do people keep saying they should have traded up to get a tackle? Don't they realize that Lynch was probably trying but nobody wanted to trade and miss a chance at a tackle they wanted. Even if they had managed a trade, which tackle would they take. After Ault there wasn't a real consensus #2 tackle. There were some guys that were picked based on their potential but they weren't a finished product like Ault.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Why do people keep saying they should have traded up to get a tackle? Don't they realize that Lynch was probably trying but nobody wanted to trade and miss a chance at a tackle they wanted. Even if they had managed a trade, which tackle would they take. After Ault there wasn't a real consensus #2 tackle. There were some guys that were picked based on their potential but they weren't a finished product like Ault.

Eh. Imo, I think Kyle got the player he was aiming for. I'd be surprised If they had any real Interest In trading up for a tackle with the first pick. Just my opinion, of course.
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Eh. Imo, I think Kyle got the player he was aiming for. I'd be surprised If they had any real Interest In trading up for a tackle with the first pick. Just my opinion, of course.

I think Rosengarten was their guy in the 2nd. Lynch all but admitted it when asked. The trade back with KC says it all as well. Hope that doesn't come back to bite us like Triston Wirfs
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Why do people keep saying they should have traded up to get a tackle? Don't they realize that Lynch was probably trying but nobody wanted to trade and miss a chance at a tackle they wanted. Even if they had managed a trade, which tackle would they take. After Ault there wasn't a real consensus #2 tackle. There were some guys that were picked based on their potential but they weren't a finished product like Ault.

How do you know Lynch was actually trying to trade up? You saying that is just as true as us saying "why didn't he". And no real consensus #2, huh, that's the first. At one point Fashanu was rated the #1 OT over Alt, but all these prospects have their strengths and weaknesses even Alt. This draft was one of the best at OT I've seen in a long time, I don't remember eight OT's ever being drafted in the 1st round. But with that said, all of them were based off of their potential, but some of them have lower bust rates than others. I think you could probably plug n play three or four of these OT's right outta training camp.
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Eh. Imo, I think Kyle got the player he was aiming for. I'd be surprised If they had any real Interest In trading up for a tackle with the first pick. Just my opinion, of course.

I think Rosengarten was their guy in the 2nd. Lynch all but admitted it when asked. The trade back with KC says it all as well. Hope that doesn't come back to bite us like Triston Wirfs

I don't like the thought of Mcvitiz starting again, but who knows, maybe he'll show some Improvement this season? Only time will tell.
What I think of our 2024 NFL Picks.....

Ricky Pearsall - I personally like this kid, but had us drafting him in the 3rd round.. Is he supposed to make up for the Jalen Hurd fiasco?

Renardo Green - Such questionable pick IMO.. We shoulda moved up for Coop DeJean instead... at worst, he could have been a fine FS

Dominick Puni - Banks' developing.. Bufford may be next, so I see this kid as a Center.

Malik Mustapha - Overrated.. this is the pick that should have been used in order to move up and land Coop.

Isaac Guerendo - by now, the whole organization must realize that we have been overpaying Juice for not being called more often.. He's our future FB

Jacob Cowing - we have Gray and the return of Trent " Impulse " Taylor .. why do we keep drafting similar players and not use them? I thought Rice would have been a better and more popular choice.

Jarrett Kingston - will have to wait for 3 years to see his development

Tatum Bethune - Soon to be the Captain of our Special Team.

OVERALL GRADE: C

I'm assuming that the Brick After Brick Brothers have already forgotten why B-Rock Study Purdy couldn't find Yuck open in the END ZONE..

Lynch said in the interview that it's hard to find those OL drafting late, I guess Stanford did not teach him to use all the extra picks we have in order to move up and get the OL that he wanted. .. well, unless he did not want any of them..
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Eh. Imo, I think Kyle got the player he was aiming for. I'd be surprised If they had any real Interest In trading up for a tackle with the first pick. Just my opinion, of course.

I think Rosengarten was their guy in the 2nd. Lynch all but admitted it when asked. The trade back with KC says it all as well. Hope that doesn't come back to bite us like Triston Wirfs

KC didn't take him, they took a different T that the report is the 49ers weren't interested in at 63, so they moved down 1 spot, and moved up 1 round with a pick swap, I can't remember the name of the Tackle KC took at 63, but it wasn't Rosengarten, plus maybe they tried to trade up for him, but couldn't strike a deal, sometimes teams want to stay put, see how the board falls.
Originally posted by 9moon:
What I think of our 2024 NFL Picks.....

Ricky Pearsall - I personally like this kid, but had us drafting him in the 3rd round.. Is he supposed to make up for the Jalen Hurd fiasco?

Renardo Green - Such questionable pick IMO.. We shoulda moved up for Coop DeJean instead... at worst, he could have been a fine FS

Dominick Puni - Banks' developing.. Bufford may be next, so I see this kid as a Center.

Malik Mustapha - Overrated.. this is the pick that should have been used in order to move up and land Coop.

Isaac Guerendo - by now, the whole organization must realize that we have been overpaying Juice for not being called more often.. He's our future FB

Jacob Cowing - we have Gray and the return of Trent " Impulse " Taylor .. why do we keep drafting similar players and not use them? I thought Rice would have been a better and more popular choice.

Jarrett Kingston - will have to wait for 3 years to see his development

Tatum Bethune - Soon to be the Captain of our Special Team.

OVERALL GRADE: C

I'm assuming that the Brick After Brick Brothers have already forgotten why B-Rock Study Purdy couldn't find Yuck open in the END ZONE..

Lynch said in the interview that it's hard to find those OL drafting late, I guess Stanford did not teach him to use all the extra picks we have in order to move up and get the OL that he wanted. .. well, unless he did not want any of them..

Lots to digest here...

What does drafting Pearsall have to do with the Jalen Hurd pick from 5 years ago? Other than both being a WR I see no connection at all. Pearsall was a concensus round 2 pick no way he was going in rd 3 unless at the very top.

Mustapha i like him as a safety but if the Niners would have traded up from 63 to 41 where Cooper was picked it would have cost A LOT more. Probably #63 and next years 2nd rounder.

Jacob Cowing - i don't know why Gray or Trent Taylor would prevent you from drafting anyone. I also don';t think Lynch or Kyle cares about the popular choice. I actually like this pick a lot.

Its hard to say who they wanted at tackle. They might not have been high on Guyton or Mims and those were the only tackles they could have traded up for in the 1st rounder without mortgaging next years first.

I also think you maybe missing the point of the draft. It's not necessarily who can help you this year but more so building your roster 2-3 years down the line. They drafted Pearsall to take the place of either Deebo or Jennings in 2025. If he contributes his rookie year then thats just a bonus.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Eh. Imo, I think Kyle got the player he was aiming for. I'd be surprised If they had any real Interest In trading up for a tackle with the first pick. Just my opinion, of course.

I think Rosengarten was their guy in the 2nd. Lynch all but admitted it when asked. The trade back with KC says it all as well. Hope that doesn't come back to bite us like Triston Wirfs

KC didn't take him, they took a different T that the report is the 49ers weren't interested in at 63, so they moved down 1 spot, and moved up 1 round with a pick swap, I can't remember the name of the Tackle KC took at 63, but it wasn't Rosengarten, plus maybe they tried to trade up for him, but couldn't strike a deal, sometimes teams want to stay put, see how the board falls.

He's saying the 49ers were hoping Rosengarten would come to them at pick 63. When he didn't, they had to pivot to plan B. I think its pretty obvious they weren't too exicted about Suamataia or they would have taken him right there. Instead they moved back to get a little extra capital before taking Renardo. Teams dont admit it, but this happens all the time, to everyone in the draft. You have someone you are hoping is available and you dont have infinite capital to move up for every target so you have to pick your spots. In this case they probably thought Baltimore is a little more of a power system and RR wouldnt be the target. Probably thought the Ravens would have Suamataia or even Kiran rated higher then Rosengarten and that it would work out.
[ Edited by scooterhd on Apr 30, 2024 at 9:31 AM ]

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
KC didn't take him, they took a different T that the report is the 49ers weren't interested in at 63, so they moved down 1 spot, and moved up 1 round with a pick swap, I can't remember the name of the Tackle KC took at 63, but it wasn't Rosengarten, plus maybe they tried to trade up for him, but couldn't strike a deal, sometimes teams want to stay put, see how the board falls.

It was Kingsley. I wanted him but obviously the 49ers werent interested in him.
Originally posted by scooterhd:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Eh. Imo, I think Kyle got the player he was aiming for. I'd be surprised If they had any real Interest In trading up for a tackle with the first pick. Just my opinion, of course.

I think Rosengarten was their guy in the 2nd. Lynch all but admitted it when asked. The trade back with KC says it all as well. Hope that doesn't come back to bite us like Triston Wirfs

KC didn't take him, they took a different T that the report is the 49ers weren't interested in at 63, so they moved down 1 spot, and moved up 1 round with a pick swap, I can't remember the name of the Tackle KC took at 63, but it wasn't Rosengarten, plus maybe they tried to trade up for him, but couldn't strike a deal, sometimes teams want to stay put, see how the board falls.

He's saying the 49ers were hoping Rosengarten would come to them at pick 63. When he didn't, they had to pivot to plan B. I think its pretty obvious they weren't too exicted about Suamataia or they would have taken him right there. Instead they moved back to get a little extra capital before taking Renardo. Teams dont admit it, but this happens all the time, to everyone in the draft. You have someone you are hoping is available and you dont have infinite capital to move up for every target so you have to pick your spots. In this case they probably thought Baltimore is a little more of a power system and RR wouldnt be the target. Probably thought the Ravens would have Suamataia or even Kiran rated higher then Rosengarten and that it would work out.

This. And yes, they weren't excited about Kingsley or they would've stayed and took him. That's what I meant with the Wirfs comparison. They weren't excited about him or they would've stayed and took him instead of trading back, letting Tampa take him, and selecting Kinlaw. We'll see
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by scooterhd:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Eh. Imo, I think Kyle got the player he was aiming for. I'd be surprised If they had any real Interest In trading up for a tackle with the first pick. Just my opinion, of course.

I think Rosengarten was their guy in the 2nd. Lynch all but admitted it when asked. The trade back with KC says it all as well. Hope that doesn't come back to bite us like Triston Wirfs

KC didn't take him, they took a different T that the report is the 49ers weren't interested in at 63, so they moved down 1 spot, and moved up 1 round with a pick swap, I can't remember the name of the Tackle KC took at 63, but it wasn't Rosengarten, plus maybe they tried to trade up for him, but couldn't strike a deal, sometimes teams want to stay put, see how the board falls.

He's saying the 49ers were hoping Rosengarten would come to them at pick 63. When he didn't, they had to pivot to plan B. I think its pretty obvious they weren't too exicted about Suamataia or they would have taken him right there. Instead they moved back to get a little extra capital before taking Renardo. Teams dont admit it, but this happens all the time, to everyone in the draft. You have someone you are hoping is available and you dont have infinite capital to move up for every target so you have to pick your spots. In this case they probably thought Baltimore is a little more of a power system and RR wouldnt be the target. Probably thought the Ravens would have Suamataia or even Kiran rated higher then Rosengarten and that it would work out.

This. And yes, they weren't excited about Kingsley or they would've stayed and took him. That's what I meant with the Wirfs comparison. They weren't excited about him or they would've stayed and took him instead of trading back, letting Tampa take him, and selecting Kinlaw. We'll see

Yeah having RR taken right in front of us who else reacted on that one, I know I did, they took our pick
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by 9moon:
What I think of our 2024 NFL Picks.....

Ricky Pearsall - I personally like this kid, but had us drafting him in the 3rd round.. Is he supposed to make up for the Jalen Hurd fiasco?

Renardo Green - Such questionable pick IMO.. We shoulda moved up for Coop DeJean instead... at worst, he could have been a fine FS

Dominick Puni - Banks' developing.. Bufford may be next, so I see this kid as a Center.

Malik Mustapha - Overrated.. this is the pick that should have been used in order to move up and land Coop.

Isaac Guerendo - by now, the whole organization must realize that we have been overpaying Juice for not being called more often.. He's our future FB

Jacob Cowing - we have Gray and the return of Trent " Impulse " Taylor .. why do we keep drafting similar players and not use them? I thought Rice would have been a better and more popular choice.

Jarrett Kingston - will have to wait for 3 years to see his development

Tatum Bethune - Soon to be the Captain of our Special Team.

OVERALL GRADE: C

I'm assuming that the Brick After Brick Brothers have already forgotten why B-Rock Study Purdy couldn't find Yuck open in the END ZONE..

Lynch said in the interview that it's hard to find those OL drafting late, I guess Stanford did not teach him to use all the extra picks we have in order to move up and get the OL that he wanted. .. well, unless he did not want any of them..

Lots to digest here...

What does drafting Pearsall have to do with the Jalen Hurd pick from 5 years ago? Other than both being a WR I see no connection at all. Pearsall was a concensus round 2 pick no way he was going in rd 3 unless at the very top.

Mustapha i like him as a safety but if the Niners would have traded up from 63 to 41 where Cooper was picked it would have cost A LOT more. Probably #63 and next years 2nd rounder.

Jacob Cowing - i don't know why Gray or Trent Taylor would prevent you from drafting anyone. I also don';t think Lynch or Kyle cares about the popular choice. I actually like this pick a lot.

Its hard to say who they wanted at tackle. They might not have been high on Guyton or Mims and those were the only tackles they could have traded up for in the 1st rounder without mortgaging next years first.

I also think you maybe missing the point of the draft. It's not necessarily who can help you this year but more so building your roster 2-3 years down the line. They drafted Pearsall to take the place of either Deebo or Jennings in 2025. If he contributes his rookie year then thats just a bonus.

Pearsall - If you think about it, never recovered from the Jalen Hurd's unfortunate injuries. He tried J-1 but he's not enough.. he's been looking for that ED MACAFFREY type receiver who can run great routes while having the size that can contest when the ball is in the air. He'll neve admit it but giving Deevah that much money was a huge mistake.. a GADGET should never make that much.

Malik - w/o being sarcastic, have you seen this guy play, and how many times? I saw WF on tv about 6 times and the guy reminded me of Dallas' (then safety) Roy Williams.. He will make great tackles, but you will also see him chasing down pass catchers.. Had he been a little bigger and taller, he would have been a very good LB.

Cowing - at the very best, he'll have a play here and there.. will gain about 30 yards on one play, and that's it.. not sure about you, but I like drafting players who actually has a chance to start.. and this kid does not..
Originally posted by 9moon:
Pearsall - If you think about it, never recovered from the Jalen Hurd's unfortunate injuries. He tried J-1 but he's not enough.. he's been looking for that ED MACAFFREY type receiver who can run great routes while having the size that can contest when the ball is in the air. He'll neve admit it but giving Deevah that much money was a huge mistake.. a GADGET should never make that much.

Malik - w/o being sarcastic, have you seen this guy play, and how many times? I saw WF on tv about 6 times and the guy reminded me of Dallas' (then safety) Roy Williams.. He will make great tackles, but you will also see him chasing down pass catchers.. Had he been a little bigger and taller, he would have been a very good LB.

Cowing - at the very best, he'll have a play here and there.. will gain about 30 yards on one play, and that's it.. not sure about you, but I like drafting players who actually has a chance to start.. and this kid does not..

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