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Originally posted by communist:
He should be fired. Botched plenty of first rounders including trey lance, third round on a s**tty kicker, offensive line is bad for years, now the defensive line starts to fall apart. At least the secondary does look good, finally...
If Lynch's head is on the chopping block for those reasons then Shanahan's should be aswell.
Glad to see him get fired up last night. Here's hoping the frustration leads to positive change.
Originally posted by BYisGod:
Glad to see him get fired up last night. Here's hoping the frustration leads to positive change.

Me too. I was really pissed and a bit buzzed last night. This morning over it and glad the our draft placement was preserved. We could have dropped three spots. Get em John.
  • okdkid
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Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by communist:
He should be fired. Botched plenty of first rounders including trey lance, third round on a s**tty kicker, offensive line is bad for years, now the defensive line starts to fall apart. At least the secondary does look good, finally...

He should be extended. Built a phenomenal roster and, when healthy, are always in the mix.
He botched plenty first rounders and the QB position! We are just lucky that Purdy was with us. Otherwise we would compete for first overall.

So the good picks are luck and the bad picks are incompetence- got it.

You fans overvalue first round selections. All they do is give you a better shot at getting a better player. Once they're selected there is no difference to the team in a first or seventh round pick. It just doesn't matter. All that matters is bringing talent in. Round does not matter.
Originally posted by okdkid:
So the good picks are luck and the bad picks are incompetence- got it.

You fans overvalue first round selections. All they do is give you a better shot at getting a better player. Once they're selected there is no difference to the team in a first or seventh round pick. It just doesn't matter. All that matters is bringing talent in. Round does not matter.
Trey lance was not just another first round pick, we have sold the whole farm!
Houston was a top5 pick.

Offensive line is bad for years!
Secondary was bad for years!
Just one good RB (besides cmc).

You want credit? Sure, Kittle, BA, Samuel (not the recent restructure though). Let's take Bosa as well.
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by communist:
He should be fired. Botched plenty of first rounders including trey lance, third round on a s**tty kicker, offensive line is bad for years, now the defensive line starts to fall apart. At least the secondary does look good, finally...

He should be extended. Built a phenomenal roster and, when healthy, are always in the mix.
He botched plenty first rounders and the QB position! We are just lucky that Purdy was with us. Otherwise we would compete for first overall.

So the good picks are luck and the bad picks are incompetence- got it.

You fans overvalue first round selections. All they do is give you a better shot at getting a better player. Once they're selected there is no difference to the team in a first or seventh round pick. It just doesn't matter. All that matters is bringing talent in. Round does not matter.

He botched plenty? Are you counting the Lance pick 3 times? Cuz otherwise I'd argue he's 50/50 on first round picks which is probably better than average in the NFL.
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by BYisGod:
Glad to see him get fired up last night. Here's hoping the frustration leads to positive change.

Me too. I was really pissed and a bit buzzed last night. This morning over it and glad the our draft placement was preserved. We could have dropped three spots. Get em John.

I was totally fine with the outcome for draft order and schedule next year. But I wish we just lost the shootout and not due to two more terrible 4th quarter picks by Brock. His struggles and this teams blind commitment to paying him when you don't need to are what kill my vibes about next year.
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Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by communist:
He should be fired. Botched plenty of first rounders including trey lance, third round on a s**tty kicker, offensive line is bad for years, now the defensive line starts to fall apart. At least the secondary does look good, finally...

He should be extended. Built a phenomenal roster and, when healthy, are always in the mix.
He botched plenty first rounders and the QB position! We are just lucky that Purdy was with us. Otherwise we would compete for first overall.

So the good picks are luck and the bad picks are incompetence- got it.

You fans overvalue first round selections. All they do is give you a better shot at getting a better player. Once they're selected there is no difference to the team in a first or seventh round pick. It just doesn't matter. All that matters is bringing talent in. Round does not matter.

He botched plenty? Are you counting the Lance pick 3 times? Cuz otherwise I'd argue he's 50/50 on first round picks which is probably better than average in the NFL.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by communist:
He should be fired. Botched plenty of first rounders including trey lance, third round on a s**tty kicker, offensive line is bad for years, now the defensive line starts to fall apart. At least the secondary does look good, finally...
If Lynch's head is on the chopping block for those reasons then Shanahan's should be aswell.

Our back 7 are about as good as it gets but the dline has to stuff in the middle and has to get to the qb to make the whole thing work. Sorenson still employed? Were they really playing zone on a 4th and 1 at the 1 yard line? 5 yard cusion?😳🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🫣
Originally posted by socal1632:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by communist:
He should be fired. Botched plenty of first rounders including trey lance, third round on a s**tty kicker, offensive line is bad for years, now the defensive line starts to fall apart. At least the secondary does look good, finally...
If Lynch's head is on the chopping block for those reasons then Shanahan's should be aswell.

Our back 7 are about as good as it gets but the dline has to stuff in the middle and has to get to the qb to make the whole thing work. Sorenson still employed? Were they really playing zone on a 4th and 1 at the 1 yard line? 5 yard cusion?😳🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🫣
No argument here but unfortunately it sounds like Sorensen returns.
Originally posted by socal1632:
Our back 7 are about as good as it gets but the dline has to stuff in the middle and has to get to the qb to make the whole thing work. Sorenson still employed? Were they really playing zone on a 4th and 1 at the 1 yard line? 5 yard cusion?😳🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🫣

that was hard to watch from green playing off and allowing the underneath throw in the end zone. have to think that's a rook mistake don't know what he was doing
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by socal1632:
Our back 7 are about as good as it gets but the dline has to stuff in the middle and has to get to the qb to make the whole thing work. Sorenson still employed? Were they really playing zone on a 4th and 1 at the 1 yard line? 5 yard cusion?😳🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🫣

that was hard to watch from green playing off and allowing the underneath throw in the end zone. have to think that's a rook mistake don't know what he was doing

Green is still learning. He's played pretty well in the second half of the season. Sometimes even the best DBs get juked or miss a coverage. That's what the offense is trying to get them to do with all those motions.
Last years draft was very good,

We have to have another on w/more emphasis on OLine.
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by communist:
He should be fired. Botched plenty of first rounders including trey lance, third round on a s**tty kicker, offensive line is bad for years, now the defensive line starts to fall apart. At least the secondary does look good, finally...

He should be extended. Built a phenomenal roster and, when healthy, are always in the mix.
He botched plenty first rounders and the QB position! We are just lucky that Purdy was with us. Otherwise we would compete for first overall.

So the good picks are luck and the bad picks are incompetence- got it.

You fans overvalue first round selections. All they do is give you a better shot at getting a better player. Once they're selected there is no difference to the team in a first or seventh round pick. It just doesn't matter. All that matters is bringing talent in. Round does not matter.

He botched plenty? Are you counting the Lance pick 3 times? Cuz otherwise I'd argue he's 50/50 on first round picks which is probably better than average in the NFL.

2017 - Thomas - bust, did not get 2nd contract
2017 - Foster - bust, did not last through 1st contract
2018 - McGlinchey - avg starter, did not get 2nd contract
2019 - Bosa - great pick, but an obvious pick
2020 - Kinlaw - bust, did not get 2nd contract
2020 - Aiyuk - very good pick
2021 - Lance - bust, traded
2024 - Pearsall - tbd

He's 2/7 if you throw out McGlinchey, 3/7 if you wanna include him.

Either way, those percentages stink.
Originally posted by Schulzy:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by communist:
He should be fired. Botched plenty of first rounders including trey lance, third round on a s**tty kicker, offensive line is bad for years, now the defensive line starts to fall apart. At least the secondary does look good, finally...

He should be extended. Built a phenomenal roster and, when healthy, are always in the mix.
He botched plenty first rounders and the QB position! We are just lucky that Purdy was with us. Otherwise we would compete for first overall.

So the good picks are luck and the bad picks are incompetence- got it.

You fans overvalue first round selections. All they do is give you a better shot at getting a better player. Once they're selected there is no difference to the team in a first or seventh round pick. It just doesn't matter. All that matters is bringing talent in. Round does not matter.

He botched plenty? Are you counting the Lance pick 3 times? Cuz otherwise I'd argue he's 50/50 on first round picks which is probably better than average in the NFL.

2017 - Thomas - bust, did not get 2nd contract
2017 - Foster - bust, did not last through 1st contract
2018 - McGlinchey - avg starter, did not get 2nd contract
2019 - Bosa - great pick, but an obvious pick
2020 - Kinlaw - bust, did not get 2nd contract
2020 - Aiyuk - very good pick
2021 - Lance - bust, traded
2024 - Pearsall - tbd

He's 2/7 if you throw out McGlinchey, 3/7 if you wanna include him.

Either way, those percentages stink.

Who is your benchmark for a GM?
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