John Lynch - 49ers GM

What in the f**k...

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Jim Trotter @JimTrotter_NFL
I like John Lynch and hope he succeeds. But every scout/personnel guy who has spent decades trying to climb GM ladder should be disturbed.

Did they say this stuff about Elway whose only front office experience previously had been in the Arena Football League? Its like some huge affront that the 49ers have chosen a different path.

Yup. All those scout/personnel guys who are disturbed by this.....tough s**t. Thats the business.

Some guys have less barrier to entry based on their pedigree. Lynch isn't some guy who got into football as a 22 year old grad assistant. He's a HOF player with league ties.

If he works well with Shanahan and they get players to fit the system, it's all good.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Jcool:

You are so right. I mean look at what happened the last time they hired a guy out of the blue with not much experience, while passing over quality candidates.

If Lynch was going to be a traditional GM, I would agree with you. I however don't have a problem waiting and seeing how this unfolds, curious to see who Lynch brings in to handle personnel.

Its even worse if he is the GM in name only. What was the point of hiring him, if the actually day to day responsibility will be Gambles? Just so fans wouldn't freak out? This hire has not exactly stopped that.

100% agree

Originally posted by Kolohe:
So with Mark Dominik (ex-GM) and Tom Gamble, how can't Lynch set up a draft again? And can you honestly tell me Lynch doesn't know about scouting players, inquire about trades, trade value, forming a prospect board and value, know how to conduct interviews (when he himself has been in them) or know how to properly structure a roster?

As for contracts, Paraag handles that, I'm sure he and Lynch would work together in negotiations with player contracts or did you think Baalke did that by himself?

Lynch will have a front office team to guide and advise. The main thing Lynch will be is the face of the business/media side of the 49ers not to mention one who will mesh with his head coach Kyle Shanahan.

Lynch is an very smart alpha male without an out of control ego. He just might be the glue that holds the rest of them together. Or not...

Originally posted by KID9R:
It's been less then 4 hrs!! I think fans have earned the right to be bitter for just a little bit longer at least. Jed doesn't have the benefit of the doubt anymore, he's wasted those. I'll stop being bitter when we're told who the actual player personnel guy will be, who's going to run the draft and who has final say on the roster.

It's just flat out ridiculous to say that Shanahan should stay in Atlanta when this is his guy, a guy that he can work and collaborate with. The 49ers put together some semblance of symmetry between GM and HC and likely the personnel guy that will be brought in.

People can certainly question this decision is out of left field and is something that could rapidly implode but some of the comments I'm seeing are beyond idiotic.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Jcool:
You are so right. I mean look at what happened the last time they hired a guy out of the blue with not much experience, while passing over quality candidates.

If Lynch was going to be a traditional GM, I would agree with you. I however don't have a problem waiting and seeing how this unfolds, curious to see who Lynch brings in to handle personnel.

Its even worse if he is the GM in name only. What was the point of hiring him, if the actually day to day responsibility will be Gambles? Just so fans wouldn't freak out? This hire has not exactly stopped that.

Fans are going to freak out until this team starts winning again. Nobody the Niners hired would have changed that. People complain no matter what.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Bobbi9698:
It would serve Jed/Paraag right if Shanny laughed his butt off and stayed another year in Atlanta

Because they hired a GM that their new HC could and wanted to work with?

You people are illogical as all f**k. At some point it helps to stop being bitter about everything and just see what happens.

Some people can die, float on a cloud to heaven and be by baby Jesus side... they would still find something to complain about LMAO... I'm not even kidding, that's what's funny about that

Our gm can beat up your gm

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by DarkShinobiX:

What the f**k?! What's his credentials as a GM?

Works in TV

I agree this is sudden, and we know Jed sucks as a decision maker...but, however...we already tried an experienced personnel guy with zero leadership and communications skills. Maybe it's better to hire a strong leader and communicator, because those are harder to find and scouts and film evaluators like Baalke are a dime a dozen.

He has Championship football pedigree, with a Super Bowl ring, that can bring people together and have credibility. He has contacts with some of the top coaches and talents in the league because he's worked with or played for 4 Super Bowl coaches. He seems like a guy so comfortable in his skin that be won't feel threatened by sorrounding himself with more experienced personnel people to advise him. And he is confident enough to tell non-football people like Paraag to pound sand. He played for Kyle's Shanahan's dad, so he will find a way to make sure his son does well without the ego.

Originally posted by Jcool:
Its even worse if he is the GM in name only. What was the point of hiring him, if the actually day to day responsibility will be Gambles? Just so fans wouldn't freak out? This hire has not exactly stopped that.

I don't agree at all. The point is that you get a guy who represents the organization, who can help keep things together while the coaches do their thing and the scouts do their thing. Had they had someone like Lynch with Baalke working under him maybe Harbaugh would still be around.

My guess is Lynch is going to be the grown up in the room. Get the coach, Paraage does contracts, bring in an apex talent evaluator, and Lymch provides leadership. It's different, but it will at least be interesting.

Originally posted by KID9R:
http://www.walterfootball.com/coachfirehire.php

LOL

49ers hire GM John Lynch: JED YORK IS THE WORST OWNER OF ALL TIME Grade
The 49ers have hired John Lynch to be their general manager. John Lynch. The color analyst for FOX. The guy who used to play safety for the Broncos and Buccaneers and then went right into the broadcasting booth. The guy with absolutely no scouting or personnel decision-making experience. That John Lynch.

I actually had to check the date to see if it was April Fools' Day. I can't believe this hire. The last time an NFL team brought in a TV analyst to be a general manager, the Lions hired Matt Millen, and we saw how that worked out.

The 49ers interviewed plenty of people who could've done a great job as the general manager. And yet, they failed to bring in any of them, opting for someone completely unqualified for the job instead. Lynch is a smart guy who is obviously very knowledgeable about football, but he's not capable of being an NFL general manager; not without any sort of experience.

This is completely embarrassing. With this hire, Jed York has established himself as the worst owner of all time in any sport. It's quite the accomplishment. York should throw himself a parade and hire more people to tell him how cool he is and what a great job he's doing. That seems to be the only thing he's good at.

My sentiments exactly

Lynch 'em

Originally posted by Bobbi9698:
My sentiments exactly

Makes total sense that you agree with Walter.

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Jcool:
Jim Trotter @JimTrotter_NFL
I like John Lynch and hope he succeeds. But every scout/personnel guy who has spent decades trying to climb GM ladder should be disturbed.

Did they say this stuff about Elway whose only front office experience previously had been in the Arena Football League? Its like some huge affront that the 49ers have chosen a different path.

No kidding and the guy has a higher role than just GM he is the Vice President. lol

If Lynch had ANY experience it might be different. Also, Elway had tons of executive experience owning dealerships.

First off what experience doesn't he have?

Scouting, making a draft board, running a draft, trading players, signing players, working contracts...pretty much everything on the desired/required skills section of the application.

Scouting, if anyone knew how to scout a player I think John Lynch is more than qualified? Shoot some college players that don't make it to the NFL become area scouts, who can't Lynch who's been around everyone from NFL HC, assistant coaches, Pro Bowl players to Undrafted rookie free agents. Running the draft, what does it take to run a draft and why can't he make a call to his ole pal John Elway on a few pointers. Shoot, Louis Riddick ESPN analyst who was a candidate for the job has never ran a draft and besides, Mark Dominik (ex-GM) is likely to come aboard.

Contracts and Salary Cap, two words, Paraag - Marathe

Again, some of you underestimate Lynch's years playing on two different NFL team winning Super Bowls, being around contract situations with agents and speaking with GM's. I'm baffled that again some of you underestimate the connections he has in the NFL. Sure it may work and it may not, but you never know until you try, if anything it was a 50/50 shot with any GM candidate.

You just described all the qualities Mike Singletary had.

What makes Lynch qualified to scout players? Rich Eisen probably watches more at the combine than Lynch does.

What does it take to run a draft? Seriously!

He's going to use a board he didn't create and just pick who's next? Trading up and down, what's good and bad, etc. This is so vital for this team right now and you have somebody with 0 knowledge doing it.

Paraag doesn't call teams for trades.

This is the top trigger guy on everything and he's never done one iota of FO work. He's going to have multiple people in his ear and he has no history to go off of to make the best decision. How much tape can he watch in 2 months to accuralty judge 2 different players that 2 different people are pushing for?

Hiring an actual GM to do all the GM work so all accountability falls with him was/is the smartest decision.

Exactly! I have a great friend who played in the league, same position similar career length, pro bowler, All madden, same positions, played on a historic team, engineering degree etc. I've had enough conversations with him to know I'd NEVER want him to be our GM. Playing the game doesn't make one a great talent evaluator.

Again GM does not mean the same thing for every football team get over it. All he is is the face of the franchise that's it. Would I rather have young be the face of the franchise yes. He's not going to do all the scouting. All he's going to do is be the face of the franchise and organize front office personnel to build a championship football team. Is anybody else in our office or on our team or even in the last 10 years know more about a championship culture than him?

Lynchburg USA