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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Originally posted by Jcool:I don't agree at all. You dont need someone representing the organization. You need someone who will get the players to win. You dont hire someone to be the GM if his actually job is just going to be explaining the moves to fans/media.
Its almost as if that is why Lynch will be bringing in his own personnel guy?
Originally posted by fan49:Originally posted by sdaddy101269:Originally posted by jreff22:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by jreff22:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by sdaddy101269:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Originally posted by Jcool:Jim Trotter @JimTrotter_NFL
I like John Lynch and hope he succeeds. But every scout/personnel guy who has spent decades trying to climb GM ladder should be disturbed.
Did they say this stuff about Elway whose only front office experience previously had been in the Arena Football League? Its like some huge affront that the 49ers have chosen a different path.
No kidding and the guy has a higher role than just GM he is the Vice President. lol
If Lynch had ANY experience it might be different. Also, Elway had tons of executive experience owning dealerships.
First off what experience doesn't he have?
Scouting, making a draft board, running a draft, trading players, signing players, working contracts...pretty much everything on the desired/required skills section of the application.
Scouting, if anyone knew how to scout a player I think John Lynch is more than qualified? Shoot some college players that don't make it to the NFL become area scouts, who can't Lynch who's been around everyone from NFL HC, assistant coaches, Pro Bowl players to Undrafted rookie free agents. Running the draft, what does it take to run a draft and why can't he make a call to his ole pal John Elway on a few pointers. Shoot, Louis Riddick ESPN analyst who was a candidate for the job has never ran a draft and besides, Mark Dominik (ex-GM) is likely to come aboard.
Contracts and Salary Cap, two words, Paraag - Marathe
Again, some of you underestimate Lynch's years playing on two different NFL team winning Super Bowls, being around contract situations with agents and speaking with GM's. I'm baffled that again some of you underestimate the connections he has in the NFL. Sure it may work and it may not, but you never know until you try, if anything it was a 50/50 shot with any GM candidate.
You just described all the qualities Mike Singletary had.
What makes Lynch qualified to scout players? Rich Eisen probably watches more at the combine than Lynch does.
What does it take to run a draft? Seriously!
He's going to use a board he didn't create and just pick who's next? Trading up and down, what's good and bad, etc. This is so vital for this team right now and you have somebody with 0 knowledge doing it.
Paraag doesn't call teams for trades.
This is the top trigger guy on everything and he's never done one iota of FO work. He's going to have multiple people in his ear and he has no history to go off of to make the best decision. How much tape can he watch in 2 months to accuralty judge 2 different players that 2 different people are pushing for?
Hiring an actual GM to do all the GM work so all accountability falls with him was/is the smartest decision.
Exactly! I have a great friend who played in the league, same position similar career length, pro bowler, All madden, same positions, played on a historic team, engineering degree etc. I've had enough conversations with him to know I'd NEVER want him to be our GM. Playing the game doesn't make one a great talent evaluator.
Again GM does not mean the same thing for every football team get over it. All he is is the face of the franchise that's it. Would I rather have young be the face of the franchise yes. He's not going to do all the scouting. All he's going to do is be the face of the franchise and organize front office personnel to build a championship football team. Is anybody else in our office or on our team or even in the last 10 years know more about a championship culture than him?
then yall will be happy again 
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Jcool:
I don't agree at all. You dont need someone representing the organization. You need someone who will get the players to win. You dont hire someone to be the GM if his actually job is just going to be explaining the moves to fans/media.
Its almost as if that is why Lynch will be bringing in his own personnel guy?
Originally posted by fan49:
Again GM does not mean the same thing for every football team get over it. All he is is the face of the franchise that's it. Would I rather have young be the face of the franchise yes. He's not going to do all the scouting. All he's going to do is be the face of the franchise and organize front office personnel to build a championship football team. Is anybody else in our office or on our team or even in the last 10 years no more about a championship culture than him?
Originally posted by fan49:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Jcool:
I don't agree at all. You dont need someone representing the organization. You need someone who will get the players to win. You dont hire someone to be the GM if his actually job is just going to be explaining the moves to fans/media.
Its almost as if that is why Lynch will be bringing in his own personnel guy?
He will just like elway did
Originally posted by njninersfan420:now that the initial shock has worn off, I have just one question. What is buzzb's take on this hire???
Originally posted by Jcool:Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Originally posted by Jcool:I don't agree at all. You dont need someone representing the organization. You need someone who will get the players to win. You dont hire someone to be the GM if his actually job is just going to be explaining the moves to fans/media.
Its almost as if that is why Lynch will be bringing in his own personnel guy?
Yeah Mark Dominik who has been out of the NFL for 4 years. Brilliant!
Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by okdkid:Fans are going to freak out until this team starts winning again. Nobody the Niners hired would have changed that. People complain no matter what.
And some people will be happy if we hired say Donald Trump to run the country.
This isn't hiring Bill Belichik and then immediately trading for Brady. It's a guy with no experience at all of course people are going to freak out.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Yeah Mark Dominik who has been out of the NFL for 4 years. Brilliant!
Originally posted by LVJay:The 2011 fans will get a new name.. 2019 fans
While negative nancies do this for the moment
Later, they'll be doing this
When we start winning and go to the playoffs
Soon, son, soon!
So the GM has the same responsibilities on every single football team in the NFL is that what you're saying?Originally posted by sdaddy101269:Originally posted by fan49:Originally posted by sdaddy101269:Originally posted by jreff22:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by jreff22:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by sdaddy101269:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Originally posted by Jcool:Jim Trotter @JimTrotter_NFL
I like John Lynch and hope he succeeds. But every scout/personnel guy who has spent decades trying to climb GM ladder should be disturbed.
Did they say this stuff about Elway whose only front office experience previously had been in the Arena Football League? Its like some huge affront that the 49ers have chosen a different path.
No kidding and the guy has a higher role than just GM he is the Vice President. lol
If Lynch had ANY experience it might be different. Also, Elway had tons of executive experience owning dealerships.
First off what experience doesn't he have?
Scouting, making a draft board, running a draft, trading players, signing players, working contracts...pretty much everything on the desired/required skills section of the application.
Scouting, if anyone knew how to scout a player I think John Lynch is more than qualified? Shoot some college players that don't make it to the NFL become area scouts, who can't Lynch who's been around everyone from NFL HC, assistant coaches, Pro Bowl players to Undrafted rookie free agents. Running the draft, what does it take to run a draft and why can't he make a call to his ole pal John Elway on a few pointers. Shoot, Louis Riddick ESPN analyst who was a candidate for the job has never ran a draft and besides, Mark Dominik (ex-GM) is likely to come aboard.
Contracts and Salary Cap, two words, Paraag - Marathe
Again, some of you underestimate Lynch's years playing on two different NFL team winning Super Bowls, being around contract situations with agents and speaking with GM's. I'm baffled that again some of you underestimate the connections he has in the NFL. Sure it may work and it may not, but you never know until you try, if anything it was a 50/50 shot with any GM candidate.
You just described all the qualities Mike Singletary had.
What makes Lynch qualified to scout players? Rich Eisen probably watches more at the combine than Lynch does.
What does it take to run a draft? Seriously!
He's going to use a board he didn't create and just pick who's next? Trading up and down, what's good and bad, etc. This is so vital for this team right now and you have somebody with 0 knowledge doing it.
Paraag doesn't call teams for trades.
This is the top trigger guy on everything and he's never done one iota of FO work. He's going to have multiple people in his ear and he has no history to go off of to make the best decision. How much tape can he watch in 2 months to accuralty judge 2 different players that 2 different people are pushing for?
Hiring an actual GM to do all the GM work so all accountability falls with him was/is the smartest decision.
Exactly! I have a great friend who played in the league, same position similar career length, pro bowler, All madden, same positions, played on a historic team, engineering degree etc. I've had enough conversations with him to know I'd NEVER want him to be our GM. Playing the game doesn't make one a great talent evaluator.
Again GM does not mean the same thing for every football team get over it. All he is is the face of the franchise that's it. Would I rather have young be the face of the franchise yes. He's not going to do all the scouting. All he's going to do is be the face of the franchise and organize front office personnel to build a championship football team. Is anybody else in our office or on our team or even in the last 10 years know more about a championship culture than him?
Get over what?? Hes supposed to be GM nothing else has been said to the contrary so until then add some s**t other than what you THINK.
