Now that I've had a couple of hours to... digest this move... all joking aside it's not that Lynch sucks. I hope he's a home run, but I doubt it.....
It's more that they had so many candidates with real front office experience, that it's shocking and doesn't make much sense.
Just feels like the status quo. I'll bet my nuts these guys don't want to work with Paraag and Jed won't let him go.
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Jan 29, 2017 at 9:04 PM
- Cisco0623
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Jan 29, 2017 at 9:05 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by fropwns:
Reverse it. Shanny the Younger just got him a wingman that will cover his back for the next six years (if they last that long).
From this moment on, I will refer to them as Maverick and Goose.
I'm thinking the odds of any Harbaugh-Baalke level dysfunction will be markedly decreased with this hire.
Jan 29, 2017 at 9:05 PM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Since when does a GM bring in a scheme and not the coaching staff?
Yeah, I wouldn't even speculate what scheme we'd run until we start seeing what DCs get interviewed after Shanahan is officially hired.
Jan 29, 2017 at 9:05 PM
- dj43
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Pros:
Lynch appears to be smart
Stanford grad
Link to Bill Walsh
Definite Leader
Test BFFs to see if they would leak him as a candidate (very smart plan)
Cons:
Don't think he knows enough about being a GM so seems we are keeping our scouting staff minus Baalke.
Man, the cons outweigh the pros.
I'm not sure we can blame the scouts for the choices Baalke made.
We need to wait to see what the rest of the staff looks like.
I know, "wait" is not a word in the language of NT.
Jan 29, 2017 at 9:05 PM
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Originally posted by tjd808185:Switching gears does anyone else think this may be the end of the 3-4 here? We got Shanny coming in and I think he can go either way but will Lynch want to bring in the Tampa 2.
Whatever the D coordinator wants we should do.
Jan 29, 2017 at 9:05 PM
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We better fix defensive roster because I don't care if we stick to 3-4, switch to 4-3 or adopt Tampa 2...
With the current roster, we stuck with Alviso 2 yawn
With the current roster, we stuck with Alviso 2 yawn
Jan 29, 2017 at 9:06 PM
- tjd808185
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Since when does a GM bring in a scheme and not the coaching staff?
Well I'm assuming Shanny wanted Lynch so yeah there's a strong possibility he may prefer a 4-3 too.
Jan 29, 2017 at 9:06 PM
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Originally posted by Joecool:Shannahan just got handcuffed into a GM that requires a learning curve instead of hitting the ground running with one who knows his s**t.
Handcuffed? Do you see what is happening? Shanahan is the GM. Lol
Jan 29, 2017 at 9:07 PM
- jrouter4949
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Shannahan just got handcuffed into a GM that requires a learning curve instead of hitting the ground running with one who knows his s**t.
and you know this how?
Jan 29, 2017 at 9:07 PM
- Kolohe
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
So with Mark Dominik (ex-GM) and Tom Gamble, how can't Lynch set up a draft again? And can you honestly tell me Lynch doesn't know about scouting players, inquire about trades, trade value, forming a prospect board and value, know how to conduct interviews (when he himself has been in them) or know how to properly structure a roster?
As for contracts, Paraag handles that, I'm sure he and Lynch would work together in negotiations with player contracts or did you think Baalke did that by himself?
Lynch will have a front office team to guide and advise. The main thing Lynch will be is the face of the business/media side of the 49ers not to mention one who will mesh with his head coach Kyle Shanahan.
He's not setting it up. If his jobs is to have everybody do the work, there's know point in making him the trigger man. If Dominik and Gamble are fighting for two different players that Lynch knows 0 about...how does that work out? Coin toss, arm wrestle? If his job is to pick players, right now we can probably say with certainty he is starting at the bottom with previous knowledge.
Yes I doubt he knows the in's and out's at the FO level. You know how I can say that? He's never done it or been a part of it. He has the same qualifications that Deion Sanders has. Actually Deion attends the combine and watches players so he might actually know more.
Public and media relations, aka the face of the franchise (the business side of it). I also find it funny how you think Lynch can't do this or that because he's never had a front office job. You pretty much disregarded all my post with our post above.
Neither you or I are in position to rightfully judge him on this job which you and I don't really know about in the first place. So like I've said earlier (in another post), get on board or get out, simple as that no sense cry about it. At least let the guy fail or succeed first.
Is he more qualified than any of the other people we interviewed? Every other person we interviewed has at some point been a part of what I listed. In some form or capacity they have seen and/or participated in the whole process.
We hired somebody to do PR and gave them the GM title and responsibility that comes with it?
You want an intelligent TV person that played the game. Hire Mike Mayock. He's at least competent in player evaluation and knows scouts, agents, and FO personnel around the league.
No he's not, never did I say he was. All I said (have been saying) is that he's capable of doing so. How John Lynch and Jed York were brought together I have no idea. But it happened and it happened to be with someone that will mesh with Shanahan (The real face of the franchise). We will know more about Lynch The GM as time goes, but I'm just baffled how people just think he's a TV analyst and football player with no connections at all with players, coaches and team execs.
Would you guys be happy if they kept Trent Baalke who's teams he's built went 7-25 the past two season?
Jan 29, 2017 at 9:07 PM
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[ Edited by LVJay on Jan 29, 2017 at 9:08 PM ]
Jan 29, 2017 at 9:07 PM
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I've had a bunch of waves of emotion upon reading the news
Initial- wtf????!!!!!!!!?????!!!!!
After a few mins to digest- ok I kinda can dig this is think.
2 minutes later- I mean John lynch??? Really????
A few minutes later- John lynch was a hell of a player, smart guy, and must be Shanny's choice
Few more minutes and tokes later- but we had 2 gm finalists with great experience and are 100% ready to be nfl gm's
To now- f it, what choice do we have but to roll with it?? I am conflicted, but hoping for the best. Hope Lynch does a great job, at least it's not baalke. Shanahan/Lynch era is about to get underway, let's hope they pull this franchise out of the gutter and back on top where it belongs
Initial- wtf????!!!!!!!!?????!!!!!
After a few mins to digest- ok I kinda can dig this is think.
2 minutes later- I mean John lynch??? Really????
A few minutes later- John lynch was a hell of a player, smart guy, and must be Shanny's choice
Few more minutes and tokes later- but we had 2 gm finalists with great experience and are 100% ready to be nfl gm's
To now- f it, what choice do we have but to roll with it?? I am conflicted, but hoping for the best. Hope Lynch does a great job, at least it's not baalke. Shanahan/Lynch era is about to get underway, let's hope they pull this franchise out of the gutter and back on top where it belongs
Jan 29, 2017 at 9:08 PM
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Originally posted by GEEK:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Dude doesn't understand football...
Exactly most teams can switch.
Jan 29, 2017 at 9:08 PM
- 49ERFANb4Uwas
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Since when does a GM bring in a scheme and not the coaching staff?
true ...but the GM can hire the coaching staff that runs the defense that he believes in. Perhaps lynch believes Cover 2 is superior to 3-4?
Jan 29, 2017 at 9:08 PM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by fropwns:
Reverse it. Shanny the Younger just got him a wingman that will cover his back for the next six years (if they last that long).
From this moment on, I will refer to them as Maverick and Goose.
I'm thinking the odds of any Harbaugh-Baalke level dysfunction will be markedly decreased with this hire.