49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

10 of you dudes turned this into a gminer805 thread when all you had to do was scroll by his posts or hit the ignore button.

Smh

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

10 of you dudes turned this into a gminer805 thread when all you had to do was scroll by his posts or hit the ignore button.

Smh

How dare you

I am judging a Kyle (and Lynch too) by what happens in 2019. I have maintained from the very beginning that the team was so bad, and so depleted when he got here that it would be 2019 before we saw the full effect of both Kyle's offensive scheme and the remaking of the team in both the draft and FA. And I believed that even before our injury run last year. But this year is the time for things to be judged completely on him and Lynch. The first year he took over a complete dumpster fire. They didn't even have time to prepare fully for the draft and FA. And even if they would have had the time the time mostly of the team either outright sucked or was wrong for Kyle's long term vision. This is the year to produce. Third draft, third FA period. I do expect to see a radically different outcome at the end of the year. We know what a great OC he is, he has shown glimmers of being a good HC, keeping the team together at a difficult time. We need to step up on defense and as the HC that's still on him.

Originally posted by mojave45:

I am judging a Kyle (and Lynch too) by what happens in 2019. I have maintained from the very beginning that the team was so bad, and so depleted when he got here that it would be 2019 before we saw the full effect of both Kyle's offensive scheme and the remaking of the team in both the draft and FA. And I believed that even before our injury run last year. But this year is the time for things to be judged completely on him and Lynch. The first year he took over a complete dumpster fire. They didn't even have time to prepare fully for the draft and FA. And even if they would have had the time the time mostly of the team either outright sucked or was wrong for Kyle's long term vision. This is the year to produce. Third draft, third FA period. I do expect to see a radically different outcome at the end of the year. We know what a great OC he is, he has shown glimmers of being a good HC, keeping the team together at a difficult time. We need to step up on defense and as the HC that's still on him.

Agree.

Originally posted by mojave45:
I am judging a Kyle (and Lynch too) by what happens in 2019. I have maintained from the very beginning that the team was so bad, and so depleted when he got here that it would be 2019 before we saw the full effect of both Kyle's offensive scheme and the remaking of the team in both the draft and FA. And I believed that even before our injury run last year. But this year is the time for things to be judged completely on him and Lynch. The first year he took over a complete dumpster fire. They didn't even have time to prepare fully for the draft and FA. And even if they would have had the time the time mostly of the team either outright sucked or was wrong for Kyle's long term vision. This is the year to produce. Third draft, third FA period. I do expect to see a radically different outcome at the end of the year. We know what a great OC he is, he has shown glimmers of being a good HC, keeping the team together at a difficult time. We need to step up on defense and as the HC that's still on him.

Agreed. This is a big year for them. They played it well so far and on paper it looks like they're going to have a chance to improve on our biggest issue - edge rusher in this FA class and/or draft class.

I do think they need to be a little more aggressive in FA this round. I don't mind smart, cheap under the radar signings as sometimes those can be great in helping your team win but we need to bring in talent to help win games.

Last year was hopefully a blessing in disguise. Not only in us getting a high draft pick to hopefully grab someone like Bosa or allow us to trade down and still pick up a legit player while getting other picks in return but also in not having Jimmy out there and showing the front office the roster is still weak behind him.

I'm ok not throwing a ton at the offense this year but we have to protect our QB and we have to ensure our WRs aren't lost if one guy goes out.

Let's get it.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I wanted Carl Nassib... thought he would have provided an upgrade.

Thought he looked a little better in TB, not much in Cleveland. What he end up with 6 sacks. I kinda throw in him the Ronald Blair department

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I wanted Carl Nassib... thought he would have provided an upgrade.

Thought he looked a little better in TB, not much in Cleveland. What he end up with 6 sacks. I kinda throw in him the Ronald Blair department

Hard to look good in Cleveland. Context really does matter. I think he would have proven to be a much better rusher than Blair if we had signed him.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I wanted Carl Nassib... thought he would have provided an upgrade.

Thought he looked a little better in TB, not much in Cleveland. What he end up with 6 sacks. I kinda throw in him the Ronald Blair department

Hard to look good in Cleveland. Context really does matter. I think he would have proven to be a much better rusher than Blair if we had signed him.

idk...

Originally posted by mojave45:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
No one feels sorry for us, guys get hurt all the time.

The fact that we fired our strength and conditioning department speaks volumes to this. Part of being a head coach is preparing for injuries, our team isn't prepared at the starter level let alone the 2nd string level. This is all on Kyle & Lynch, not drafting or addressing the edge rusher position over the past two drafts shows a lack of skill.

Who were they suppose to bring in at edge? What are some realistic answers? You can't fabricate a good edge rusher.

There are certainly some that seem to believe just because you want an ER you can make one appear. It is a repetitive theme.

I wanted an ER last year, almost everyone did. But who, and what would it have taken?

It too was frustrated but I am glad they didn't invest in a Marcus Davenport-level guy when it was clear back then that the class this year would be much stronger.

For example, I will be much happier if we wind up with McGlinchy and Allen/Bosa than Davenport, who so far is a better run defender than pass rusher, and one of this year's OT crop who do not look like good like particularly fits for OZB.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
10 of you dudes turned this into a gminer805 thread when all you had to do was scroll by his posts or hit the ignore button.

Smh

Nvr mind...

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
No one feels sorry for us, guys get hurt all the time.

The fact that we fired our strength and conditioning department speaks volumes to this. Part of being a head coach is preparing for injuries, our team isn't prepared at the starter level let alone the 2nd string level. This is all on Kyle & Lynch, not drafting or addressing the edge rusher position over the past two drafts shows a lack of skill.

Who were they suppose to bring in at edge? What are some realistic answers? You can't fabricate a good edge rusher.

For starters in 2017 they could have selected Derek Barnett or Jonathan Allen instead of Solomon Thomas, neither are sack machines but both can get to the QB better than Thomas and both are actually edge rushers! If we wanted a guy that we can kick inside ala Solomon Thomas then Allen was the guy. If we wanted a guy to come off the edge all day then Barnett was the guy.

Last year, we could have at least attempted to grab a guy like Sam Hubbard in the 3rd round since we didn't have a viable edge rusher.

To do nothing just shows a lack of understanding and urgency.

Originally posted by SoCold:

How do you know he didn't pre plan using those set of plays when they got in the redzone?

A lot of assumptions being made on what Kyle was thinking or doing by one person saying it was because of how a LB reacted to the play.

It could be as simple as he always planed on using that run to set up that pass no matter how the LB played it.

I saw that because it was aa departure from the type of stuff Shanny was doing in the RZ from the Minn game and earlier in that DET game. When plays weren't successful or were for different reasons Shanny would change personnel or formation. This was obviously repeating the same formation and giving the same play look to attack a specific player. That backside backer shouldn't be playing that aggressive on a run. His gap on a strong side run in that formation was the weakside "A" gap and he tackled the running back on the strong side "c". That's a guy selling out to that run.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
For starters in 2017 they could have selected Derek Barnett or Jonathan Allen instead of Solomon Thomas, neither are sack machines but both can get to the QB better than Thomas and both are actually edge rushers! If we wanted a guy that we can kick inside ala Solomon Thomas then Allen was the guy. If we wanted a guy to come off the edge all day then Barnett was the guy.

Last year, we could have at least attempted to grab a guy like Sam Hubbard in the 3rd round since we didn't have a viable edge rusher.

To do nothing just shows a lack of understanding and urgency.

Allen isn't a edge rusher, I have no idea how you came up with that idea?

Barnett hasn't been amazing at all with 7 sacks in two yrs and BOTH actually played the same position they did in college...unlike Thomas.

I guess they could have given Trent Murphy $22 million and that would have equaled doing something lol.

Sam Hubbard? Seriously? You'd be complaining about him right now if he was on our team and they were looking to develop a mid rd player who's simply nothing special. I don't see how Hubbard is any better than Blair

Doing something stupid just to do it isn't progress either.

This draft is chalk full of edge rushers and there's actually a FA market at DE, unlike the past two seasons. Gotta be patient and take positions that actually have talent available.

Even Blackmon realized the injuries are what kept Shanny from going off last season... thinks 49ers will be better #2019

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/123305-blackmon-picks-49ers-his-under-the-radar-team-2019/