49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by thl408:

For real. Good luck getting a competent HC to come in afterwards if Kyle is shown the door. My biggest question about him were answered when he kept the team on board after starting 0-9 and again after last season's bad start. How he kept that lockeroom committed to him after two terrible starts to the season is a minor miracle.

Yep.

Just looking at all the HCs that were hired this offseason, how many/any would you take over Shanahan right now?

The coaching talent pool looks pretty meh at the moment. I'm perfectly happy sticking with Shanahan and seeing what he can do with hopefully better talent.

And less injuries

People around here act like good coaches never overcome talent deficiencies or injuries

Yah like who?

I'm curious as well.

Why don't you name a HC who lost their starting QB, 1st, 3rd and 4th string RB's, top 3 safeties and their top WR for most of the year and had more than 4 wins....

We'll be waiting.

What Kyle did on offense was unreal when you look at the scope of circumstances.
1. Lost a RB days before the season; a guy he built a massive amount of his playbook around
2. Loses his FQB in 1Q
3. Loses his backup QB also to injury
4. Plays most of the season with a PS QB
5. Has to resort to a gimpy Breida and ST/PS RB's like Mostert and Wilson
6. Loses his speed WR in 1Q: a guy he built a massive amount of his playbook around
7. Is forced to get his rookie WR up to speed at all 3 WR positions
8. Literally, has a different lineup at WR each and every week
9. At one point, all 5 OL were playing through knee injuries
10. Left with essentially, one real offensive weapon to game plan around...a TE

Personally, how he kept this team together was remarkable and he should be given a damn reward for getting top 15 passing and top 10 rushing production out of that group under those circumstances. Unreal.

NC - Seeing all that unfortunate adversity pretty much says it all. It was a tough season to endure. I look forward to all the starters coming back, if stay healthy, we're a playoff-bound team.

NCommand of your facts!

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49erJay:

Still crazy to me how people want him gone

Now THAT would be stupid. At worst case scenario, you force him to sign an experienced veteran GM and DC. But you don't let him walk.

Agree, no matter how things go this year or next. You give Shanahan a shot with a proven quality GM.

Out of curiosity, who are some proven quality GM candidates that we could hire?

Don't know but I am sure there are some with more experience/success than Lynch. Do you you think he is the most experiences and accomplished GM that the team could land?

There may have been more experienced candidates but I can't seem to think of any unemployed successful GM's available. Unless one wants Ted Thompson, who still works for the Packers in a different capacity, and he has a mantra of BPA regardless of position and rarely dips into FA for big names. I can't see our fans liking the hire all that much. There is Scot McCloughan, but his lone draft as the GM was not good at all though some fans like him and credit him for the time Nolan held final say in the War Room. And Nolan has credited Baalke with some of those good picks.

Other experienced names : Jerry Reese, Reggie McKenzie, Phil Emery, Ruston Webster, John Idzik, Ray Farmer, Mike Tannenbaum.

Does not exactly look like there is much in way of experienced AND successful out there, otherwise they would likely have jobs. If we moved on from Lynch you are likely looking at inexperienced yet well regarded and respected personnel execs which means no guarantees they can do the job better than Lynch, Peters and Mayhew. Which was the same case when we hired JL, there were no candidates with experience and a good track record.

GM experience and success not necessary. A guy with a track record in player personnel would have been fine too.

Not saying a change is warranted now but if the roster doesn't significantly improve this year and next I would look at Lynch ling before considering moving on from Shanahan. I hope their futures with the 49ers are not tied together.

Originally posted by mcbaes72:

NC - Seeing all that unfortunate adversity pretty much says it all. It was a tough season to endure. I look forward to all the starters coming back, if stay healthy, we're a playoff-bound team.

Originally posted by WestCoastForever:

NCommand of your facts!

I just feel terrible for the guy. Hopefully he gets to coach this year on a more normal playing field.

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49erJay:
Still crazy to me how people want him gone

Now THAT would be stupid. At worst case scenario, you force him to sign an experienced veteran GM and DC. But you don't let him walk.

Agree, no matter how things go this year or next. You give Shanahan a shot with a proven quality GM.

Disagree, Shanny isn't a good HC needs to go back to OC. Sooner the better for both partiew, he puts a sloppy, extremely weak, I'll prepared product on the field week in and week out. That's not on Lynch, IMO Shanny is more responsible for the dumspter fire. Not only has he allowed the defense to remain inept but he's also forced Lynch into some pretty bad draft blunders aka Williams Beathard and Pettis IMO. They were brought in together and should get be terminated together.

probably the stupidest post ive ever seen on the webzone

Originally posted by defenderDX:

probably the stupidest post ive ever seen on the webzone

That's saying a lot lol but it's definitely high ranking.

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49erJay:

Still crazy to me how people want him gone

Now THAT would be stupid. At worst case scenario, you force him to sign an experienced veteran GM and DC. But you don't let him walk.

Agree, no matter how things go this year or next. You give Shanahan a shot with a proven quality GM.

Disagree, Shanny isn't a good HC needs to go back to OC. Sooner the better for both partiew, he puts a sloppy, extremely weak, I'll prepared product on the field week in and week out. That's not on Lynch, IMO Shanny is more responsible for the dumspter fire. Not only has he allowed the defense to remain inept but he's also forced Lynch into some pretty bad draft blunders aka Williams Beathard and Pettis IMO. They were brought in together and should get be terminated together.

Even if I'll prepared. Pettis is a draft blunder after one season, lol

Originally posted by zeppfan1:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49erJay:

Still crazy to me how people want him gone

Now THAT would be stupid. At worst case scenario, you force him to sign an experienced veteran GM and DC. But you don't let him walk.

Agree, no matter how things go this year or next. You give Shanahan a shot with a proven quality GM.

Disagree, Shanny isn't a good HC needs to go back to OC. Sooner the better for both partiew, he puts a sloppy, extremely weak, I'll prepared product on the field week in and week out. That's not on Lynch, IMO Shanny is more responsible for the dumspter fire. Not only has he allowed the defense to remain inept but he's also forced Lynch into some pretty bad draft blunders aka Williams Beathard and Pettis IMO. They were brought in together and should get be terminated together.

Even if I'll prepared. Pettis is a draft blunder after one season, lol

Or just a draft blunder in general after that he showed.

Originally posted by defenderDX:

probably the stupidest post ive ever seen on the webzone

Whats stupid is a coach going 6-10, 4-12 losing plenty of winnable games along the way and still having a web forum full of apologists. I imagine as the losses continue to add up you guys will dwindle. I guess its just going to take 4 or 5 losing seasons in a row for it to sink in.

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
probably the stupidest post ive ever seen on the webzone

Whats stupid is a coach going 6-10, 4-12 losing plenty of winnable games along the way and still having a web forum full of apologists. I imagine as the losses continue to add up you guys will dwindle. I guess its just going to take 4 or 5 losing seasons in a row for it to sink in.

you're one of those posters who doesn't see the difference between Sula, Kelly, and Shanahan. all about W/L with you

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
probably the stupidest post ive ever seen on the webzone

Whats stupid is a coach going 6-10, 4-12 losing plenty of winnable games along the way and still having a web forum full of apologists. I imagine as the losses continue to add up you guys will dwindle. I guess its just going to take 4 or 5 losing seasons in a row for it to sink in.

I could say him going 6-10 with than '17 team is as or more impressive than Harbaugh going 8-8 with that '14 team

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
probably the stupidest post ive ever seen on the webzone

Whats stupid is a coach going 6-10, 4-12 losing plenty of winnable games along the way and still having a web forum full of apologists. I imagine as the losses continue to add up you guys will dwindle. I guess its just going to take 4 or 5 losing seasons in a row for it to sink in.

I could say him going 6-10 with than '17 team is as or more impressive than Harbaugh going 8-8 with that '14 team

Yeah Harbaugh phoned it in that season for sure.

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

probably the stupidest post ive ever seen on the webzone

Whats stupid is a coach going 6-10, 4-12 losing plenty of winnable games along the way and still having a web forum full of apologists. I imagine as the losses continue to add up you guys will dwindle. I guess its just going to take 4 or 5 losing seasons in a row for it to sink in.

I could say him going 6-10 with than '17 team is as or more impressive than Harbaugh going 8-8 with that '14 team

Perhaps but Harbaugh was much more impressive for what he did here.

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
probably the stupidest post ive ever seen on the webzone

Whats stupid is a coach going 6-10, 4-12 losing plenty of winnable games along the way and still having a web forum full of apologists. I imagine as the losses continue to add up you guys will dwindle. I guess its just going to take 4 or 5 losing seasons in a row for it to sink in.

you're one of those posters who doesn't see the difference between Sula, Kelly, and Shanahan. all about W/L with you

to many times., this team was not ready to play the game. that is a legit concern moving forward in my opinion. that stuff can not be blamed on injuries. there is also nothing wrong in measuring a coach by how many games they win. in the last 20 years we have had only a few winning seasons. you should never start to get comfortable with losing and think its ok to keep have four and five win years simply because you like the coach and gm. i understand some think that kyle and lynch should get four or five years. some even think that there is no time line. but for whatever reason. if we are setting here at the same time next year discussing who to pick with the number two pick. well,. that is not good at all