49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by zeppfan1:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49erJay:

Still crazy to me how people want him gone

Now THAT would be stupid. At worst case scenario, you force him to sign an experienced veteran GM and DC. But you don't let him walk.

Agree, no matter how things go this year or next. You give Shanahan a shot with a proven quality GM.

Disagree, Shanny isn't a good HC needs to go back to OC. Sooner the better for both partiew, he puts a sloppy, extremely weak, I'll prepared product on the field week in and week out. That's not on Lynch, IMO Shanny is more responsible for the dumspter fire. Not only has he allowed the defense to remain inept but he's also forced Lynch into some pretty bad draft blunders aka Williams Beathard and Pettis IMO. They were brought in together and should get be terminated together.

Even if I'll prepared. Pettis is a draft blunder after one season, lol

Or just a draft blunder in general after that he showed.

How is 467 yds and 5 tds a blunder? Receiver is one of the more difficult positions to transition to in the NFL. The injuries were a bit disappointing, but to call the pick a blunder is just retarded.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
dude you were whining and crying day 1 with shanahan when we started losing in his first year. nonstop. constantly failing to see the bigger picture and unable to see the difference with him compared to our last 3 coaches. this will be our 3rd year. this is the year you should be cognizant of. but instead you wasted all your efforts and time complaining in Shanny's first year. that's your fault and your fault for setting your expectations so stupidly high in year 1.

lol,.. my expectations were 6 wins in the first year.. you go whine to those who predicted 10 or 11 wins.. i saw beyond the wins and losses. the team not ready to play., mistakes,. mental and physical. defensive coaches playing guys out of positions and not be able to tackle. so yes i saw beyond the wins and losses.

you were acting as if it was the end of the world and the sky was falling because we were losing in his 1st year. acting like it was his 3rd or 4th.

it was the way we lost games.. same with last year.

Another day. Another CC argument...

Sorry. i know its unlawful to be critical of kyle here . i will say i like kyle better than lynch

I just can't believe you have the energy to keep arguing day in day out.

Originally posted by zeppfan1:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by zeppfan1:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49erJay:

Still crazy to me how people want him gone

Now THAT would be stupid. At worst case scenario, you force him to sign an experienced veteran GM and DC. But you don't let him walk.

Agree, no matter how things go this year or next. You give Shanahan a shot with a proven quality GM.

Disagree, Shanny isn't a good HC needs to go back to OC. Sooner the better for both partiew, he puts a sloppy, extremely weak, I'll prepared product on the field week in and week out. That's not on Lynch, IMO Shanny is more responsible for the dumspter fire. Not only has he allowed the defense to remain inept but he's also forced Lynch into some pretty bad draft blunders aka Williams Beathard and Pettis IMO. They were brought in together and should get be terminated together.

Even if I'll prepared. Pettis is a draft blunder after one season, lol

Or just a draft blunder in general after that he showed.

How is 467 yds and 5 tds a blunder? Receiver is one of the more difficult positions to transition to in the NFL. The injuries were a bit disappointing, but to call the pick a blunder is just retarded.

I didn't say it was. I think it was a very good pick and he showed a ton and put up solid #s in limited time. I was referencing his post about it being a blunder and thought it was absurd

Originally posted by cciowa:

Sorry. i know its unlawful to be critical of kyle here . i will say i like kyle better than lynch

Hes a great OC.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
This, IMO, is the year we must see results.

KS/JL are joined at the hip in the draft process.

They collaborate on the picks - JL isn't totally alone in credit or blame.

We have to, IMO make a major FA pick-ups.

I don't think we will enter a bidding war for Earl T but still must come up w/plug and play guys who will make a difference.

I agree. no p***y-footing around. spend money. do whatever you have to do. the NFC West isn't getting any worse and we're not getting any better if we're not at least trying

we are all on the same page here.. i do not agree but i do understand how some posters used the injury excuse as the main reason the team underachieved last year. i think the team also rested on its laurels.. lynch... after jimmy did his little win streak and i really believe the powers to be thought we were better than what we really were. of course this third off season is critical. of course we must see results. of course another four win year is not acceptable and of course we have to hit it on the draft and we have to get legit free agents who can step in and be difference makers,.

yep. we can agree to disagree on the past 2 seasons. doesn't matter anymore. we're all in agreement that this upcoming season is to be the most crucial in terms of actual progression being shown on the field. need to see more than 6 wins. im not talking playoffs this next season, but we need to be anywhere between 7-9 wins in order for me to be satisfied in terms of production progression.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by zeppfan1:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by zeppfan1:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49erJay:

Still crazy to me how people want him gone

Now THAT would be stupid. At worst case scenario, you force him to sign an experienced veteran GM and DC. But you don't let him walk.

Agree, no matter how things go this year or next. You give Shanahan a shot with a proven quality GM.

Disagree, Shanny isn't a good HC needs to go back to OC. Sooner the better for both partiew, he puts a sloppy, extremely weak, I'll prepared product on the field week in and week out. That's not on Lynch, IMO Shanny is more responsible for the dumspter fire. Not only has he allowed the defense to remain inept but he's also forced Lynch into some pretty bad draft blunders aka Williams Beathard and Pettis IMO. They were brought in together and should get be terminated together.

Even if I'll prepared. Pettis is a draft blunder after one season, lol

Or just a draft blunder in general after that he showed.

How is 467 yds and 5 tds a blunder? Receiver is one of the more difficult positions to transition to in the NFL. The injuries were a bit disappointing, but to call the pick a blunder is just retarded.

I didn't say it was. I think it was a very good pick and he showed a ton and put up solid #s in limited time. I was referencing his post about it being a blunder and thought it was absurd

Ah, misread your post.

Originally posted by defenderDX:
yep. we can agree to disagree on the past 2 seasons. doesn't matter anymore. we're all in agreement that this upcoming season is to be the most crucial in terms of actual progression being shown on the field. need to see more than 6 wins. im not talking playoffs this next season, but we need to be anywhere between 7-9 wins in order for me to be satisfied in terms of production progression.

i think and expect us to be an 8 win team. i think jimmy will be fine although i understand those who are worried about him being healthy. we just have to improve the pass protection please. the jet guy is a real wild card. lucky we found some diamonds with our running backs from last year but you hope the jet is all what some think he should be. if the team gets 8 wins i promise i will be happy!. the playoffs would be gravy. i just do not want to see this thing where we get five or six wins but hear about progress. woulda coulda wins and rome was not built in a day thing. that is where i get my catch phrase. comfortable with losing

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

probably the stupidest post ive ever seen on the webzone

Whats stupid is a coach going 6-10, 4-12 losing plenty of winnable games along the way and still having a web forum full of apologists. I imagine as the losses continue to add up you guys will dwindle. I guess its just going to take 4 or 5 losing seasons in a row for it to sink in.

I could say him going 6-10 with than '17 team is as or more impressive than Harbaugh going 8-8 with that '14 team

Perhaps but Harbaugh was much more impressive for what he did here.

He had a much better team.

Justin, Aldon, Willis, Navaro, Whitner

Alex was playing better than he had ever, then CK came in and lit it up.

Who did KS/JL inherit that was near as good as those guys and the ones I didn't mention?

Are you disagreeing with what I posted? I think making the playoffs 3 straight years and going to the NFCC two years in a row is more impressive than what Shanahan has done. Seems pretty straightforward.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
I didn't say it was. I think it was a very good pick and he showed a ton and put up solid #s in limited time. I was referencing his post about it being a blunder and thought it was absurd

not sure we needed to trade up. but i think he did well and will be a very good wide out for us moving foward

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Are you disagreeing with what I posted? I think making the playoffs 3 straight years and going to the NFCC two years in a row is more impressive than what Shanahan has done. Seems pretty straightforward.

no one should disagree with what you said in my opinion

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
probably the stupidest post ive ever seen on the webzone

Whats stupid is a coach going 6-10, 4-12 losing plenty of winnable games along the way and still having a web forum full of apologists. I imagine as the losses continue to add up you guys will dwindle. I guess its just going to take 4 or 5 losing seasons in a row for it to sink in.

I could say him going 6-10 with than '17 team is as or more impressive than Harbaugh going 8-8 with that '14 team

Perhaps but Harbaugh was much more impressive for what he did here.

He had a much better team.

Justin, Aldon, Willis, Navaro, Whitner

Alex was playing better than he had ever, then CK came in and lit it up.

Who did KS/JL inherit that was near as good as those guys and the ones I didn't mention?

The roster that Harbaugh picked up was stacked to the rafters with elite but previously under coached talent. Shanny has coached in year one the worst roster in the league by far ...we were worse than expansion level. Then in year two, a roster that lost its most important pieces to injury and personal issues very early in the year and made them both at least look competitive in games. The records haven't been outstanding yet, but I find the latter a lot more impressive.

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
probably the stupidest post ive ever seen on the webzone

Whats stupid is a coach going 6-10, 4-12 losing plenty of winnable games along the way and still having a web forum full of apologists. I imagine as the losses continue to add up you guys will dwindle. I guess its just going to take 4 or 5 losing seasons in a row for it to sink in.

I could say him going 6-10 with than '17 team is as or more impressive than Harbaugh going 8-8 with that '14 team

Perhaps but Harbaugh was much more impressive for what he did here.

He had a much better team.

Justin, Aldon, Willis, Navaro, Whitner

Alex was playing better than he had ever, then CK came in and lit it up.

Who did KS/JL inherit that was near as good as those guys and the ones I didn't mention?

The roster that Harbaugh picked up was stacked to the rafters with elite but previously under coached talent. Shanny has coached in year one the worst roster in the league by far ...we were worse than expansion level. Then in year two, a roster that lost its most important pieces to injury and personal issues very early in the year and made them both at least look competitive in games. The records haven't been outstanding yet, but I find the latter a lot more impressive.

agreed

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Are you disagreeing with what I posted? I think making the playoffs 3 straight years and going to the NFCC two years in a row is more impressive than what Shanahan has done. Seems pretty straightforward.

no one should disagree with what you said in my opinion

I like Kyle and will be more than happy to give him the same level of credit I give Harbaugh as a great HC as soon as he matches his success.

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
probably the stupidest post ive ever seen on the webzone

Whats stupid is a coach going 6-10, 4-12 losing plenty of winnable games along the way and still having a web forum full of apologists. I imagine as the losses continue to add up you guys will dwindle. I guess its just going to take 4 or 5 losing seasons in a row for it to sink in.

I could say him going 6-10 with than '17 team is as or more impressive than Harbaugh going 8-8 with that '14 team

Perhaps but Harbaugh was much more impressive for what he did here.

He had a much better team.

Justin, Aldon, Willis, Navaro, Whitner

Alex was playing better than he had ever, then CK came in and lit it up.

Who did KS/JL inherit that was near as good as those guys and the ones I didn't mention?

The roster that Harbaugh picked up was stacked to the rafters with elite but previously under coached talent. Shanny has coached in year one the worst roster in the league by far ...we were worse than expansion level. Then in year two, a roster that lost its most important pieces to injury and personal issues very early in the year and made them both at least look competitive in games. The records haven't been outstanding yet, but I find the latter a lot more impressive.

TRUTH!

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
probably the stupidest post ive ever seen on the webzone

Whats stupid is a coach going 6-10, 4-12 losing plenty of winnable games along the way and still having a web forum full of apologists. I imagine as the losses continue to add up you guys will dwindle. I guess its just going to take 4 or 5 losing seasons in a row for it to sink in.

I could say him going 6-10 with than '17 team is as or more impressive than Harbaugh going 8-8 with that '14 team

Perhaps but Harbaugh was much more impressive for what he did here.

He had a much better team.

Justin, Aldon, Willis, Navaro, Whitner

Alex was playing better than he had ever, then CK came in and lit it up.

Who did KS/JL inherit that was near as good as those guys and the ones I didn't mention?

Are you disagreeing with what I posted? I think making the playoffs 3 straight years and going to the NFCC two years in a row is more impressive than what Shanahan has done. Seems pretty straightforward.

Agree that it's more impressive BUT

He did it w/much better players than we have

Do you agree w/that?