49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

This wasn't Shanny's fault:



Nor was this:

Inexcusable.

Ryan left plenty of time on the clock, he never looks to the blitz side once so he doesn't take the simple check down to Freeman on the blitz (easy first down burning clock), he can't ever take a sack in that situation esp. in shotgun, etc.

Epic fail by Ryan on every level.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

The second is on Shanny. Ryan could of threw the ball away but you're telling him to push it and get the kill. Mack got pretty much instantly shredded and by the time Ryan realized it too late. Interior pressure is the toughest to deal with it.

You simply throw at the feet of your crosser there. Look deep to short in that situation.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Inexcusable.

Ryan left plenty of time on the clock, he never looks to the blitz side once so he doesn't take the simple check down to Freeman on the blitz (easy first down burning clock), he can't ever take a sack in that situation esp. in shotgun, etc.

Epic fail by Ryan on every level.

The time is on all parties since it was done thru out the 4th quarter. The quicker snaps is part of an aggressive offense too. There was no blitz, they only sent 4. The 5th is actually rubbing off the drag route Ryan was trying to hit which led to the sack.

Originally posted by NCommand:
You simply throw at the feet of your crosser there. Look deep to short in that situation.

He could of and is to blame there as well just didn't expect that kind of interior pressure on a 4 man front. Also why it was bad to pass it there. Those kind if mistakes happen.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Inexcusable.

Ryan left plenty of time on the clock, he never looks to the blitz side once so he doesn't take the simple check down to Freeman on the blitz (easy first down burning clock), he can't ever take a sack in that situation esp. in shotgun, etc.

Epic fail by Ryan on every level.

The time is on all parties since it was done thru out the 4th quarter. The quicker snaps is part of an aggressive offense too. There was no blitz, they only sent 4. The 5th is actually rubbing off the drag route Ryan was trying to hit which led to the sack.

Correct...combined my thoughts off both in one. On both, yeah, you tell Mack, "snap on 1." Standard.

Where Ryan really blows it here on the second is situational awareness. Pressure up the middle in shotgun is the easiest to see. You snap at 1 only up by 8 in that situation and look for the homerun and then check down. You don't go through your normal deep, intermediate, check down progressions there. And you NEVER take a sack there in shotgun and give up field position. That's QBing 101.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by NCommand:

You simply throw at the feet of your crosser there. Look deep to short in that situation.

He could of and is to blame there as well just didn't expect that kind of interior pressure on a 4 man front. Also why it was bad to pass it there. Those kind if mistakes happen.

57
Remember, the Pats had been stacking the box by then. He had to expect pressure esp. at that point of the game where they needed the ball back. But yeah, Mack got destroyed there and Freeman didn't know whether to flare out or stay in for maximum protection. It's as much on them as it was on Ryan IMHO.

Also, even after this scenario, Kyle got them right back in FG position...but a holding call negated that too.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Correct...combined my thoughts off both in one. On both, yeah, you tell Mack, "snap on 1." Standard.

Where Ryan really blows it here on the second is situational awareness. Pressure up the middle in shotgun is the easiest to see. You snap at 1 only up by 8 in that situation and look for the homerun and then check down. You don't go through your normal deep, intermediate, check down progressions there. And you NEVER take a sack there in shotgun and give up field position. That's QBing 101.

They should of snapped at 1 but they never did that which is telling you that probably wasn't a priority from the staff either. They're playing to get 1sts not to burn clock. You don't take a sack there and that's on him as well but you shouldn't be passing there either because that sh happens. They've already been sacked 4 times on 23 dropbacks. Their line wasn't holding up, they had a 1 legged center. You did your job don't push your luck against Bill. One mistake like that is all needs.

I do agree he could and should of thrown it at the feet of the drag route though. It was a mistake on his end.

still with the blown SB talk? lol

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Correct...combined my thoughts off both in one. On both, yeah, you tell Mack, "snap on 1." Standard.

Where Ryan really blows it here on the second is situational awareness. Pressure up the middle in shotgun is the easiest to see. You snap at 1 only up by 8 in that situation and look for the homerun and then check down. You don't go through your normal deep, intermediate, check down progressions there. And you NEVER take a sack there in shotgun and give up field position. That's QBing 101.

They should of snapped at 1 but they never did that which is telling you that probably wasn't a priority from the staff either. They're playing to get 1sts not to burn clock. You don't take a sack there and that's on him as well but you shouldn't be passing there either because that sh happens. They've already been sacked 4 times on 23 dropbacks. Their line wasn't holding up, they had a 1 legged center. You did your job don't push your luck against Bill. One mistake like that is all needs.

Yeah, it's interesting that question has never been brought up to the HC or Ryan. That's actually their call there and with momentum clearly swung the other way, that's when you slow it down.

The beautiful thing about the WCO is that you always have 3 layers of options for the QB. You can be aggressive AND conservative on the same play. That's exactly what this playcall was. It's on the QB to pre and post snap read while maintaining situational awareness and clock management. In short, Ryan wasn't naked. A lot is put on a WCO QB cerebrally but it's to his benefit.

That last line is money --- so true.

Originally posted by SoCold:

still with the blown SB talk? lol

2 days and the boredom ends. LOL

lol Gonna get second guess in the first preseason game by the Zone

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
lol Gonna get second guess in the first preseason game by the Zone

I'm expecting a 45-0 blowout with each qb getting a 100+ qb rating. Anything less get the pitch forks.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SoCold:
still with the blown SB talk? lol

2 days and the boredom ends. LOL

I doubt it.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

lol Gonna get second guess in the first preseason game by the Zone

I'm expecting a 45-0 blowout with each qb getting a 100+ qb rating. Anything less get the pitch forks.

LOL!

Kyle s**t the bed in SB. He admitted it. All we can hope for is that he learned his lesson.

On to the next game.