There are 290 users in the forums

49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Shop Find 49ers gear online

49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

I know Niners816 touched on this but I was listening to a podcast from a couple weeks ago (John Chapman) that noted we were the most penalized team last year 13 of 16 games and 1 for 1 to start the year (accurate?)...coaching/discipline issues?

I feel like every time we get in the RZ it's an automatic holding penalty.
[ Edited by NCommand on Oct 2, 2019 at 11:36 AM ]
Originally posted by jonnydel:
As a content creator I can speak to this as there are pretty clear rules that youtube spells out to you.

1. The NFL and youtube entered into an agreement a few years ago where the NFL now has their own youtube channel. By doing so they entered in with their own, "fair use" clause. The "fair use" clause is one that basically states that when you put content up on youtube you have given youtube the right to broadcast that content however they like. If that means that it's on someone else's channel, that's the agreement you signed on to. However, where things start to get tricky is in monetization. If you're content is monetized and someone who is not on a monetized channel posts your stuff without any changes, is simply re-broadcasting your content, it will be removed(they have automatic algorithms that compare the digital fingerprints of your content to what has already been posted). If you have a monetized channel and post someone else's content, the ads that are run do not go towards your income, it will be given to the original creator.

However, if you make it an "original" work or interpretation by either adding commentary on the content or marking up the content, then it is now considered original and therefore the person using your content has full rights to run ads and gain income off your content.

2. In regards to the NFL content, it gets a little tricky. Because of the TV contracts and the usages of the network logos and commentary on the broadcast replays that are offered by the NFL any content that uses broadcast cameras are automatically flagged, regardless of original commentary or drawing over the video or whatever. The NFL doesn't prohibit the use of these images because they have an agreement with youtube but they will run ads on your video and get ALL the income off those ads.

3. In regards to the coaches film, it's hit or miss. Some of the content youtube will flag, some of it won't be. For example, to pull the curtain back a little bit, my most watched video of the past 2 weeks, the breakdown of Jimmy's game winning TD against the Steelers, the NFL received 100% of all the monies made from that video(based upon my cost per mille was probably around $170). Then, there are other videos where if I don't have enough drawing or interjecting images on the screen the NFL will run a "limited ads" claim on it where they will automatically assign the ads per video length and the creator will receive a small % of the revenue off of those ads.

Then, there are reported claims by the NFL. Where representatives of the NFL are watching all NFL related content on youtube and determining if the content created is "original enough". If it fails to achieve that (very arbitrary, IMO) designation the NFL will make a reported claim to your content as well and then, again, take all of the ad revenue.

yep and this doesn't just apply to the nfl
Originally posted by susweel:
Yes proven right, they should have hired McVay.

imagine still wanting mcvay lol
Shannahan is soooo much better then Mcvey
[ Edited by Goatie on Oct 4, 2019 at 5:09 AM ]
Originally posted by Goatie:
Shannahan is soooo much better then Mcvey

Doesnt need to hire a dude to hold him on the sideline too.
I love Shanny but when it comes to his updates on injured players I don't think I'm gonna believe him anymore lol
Originally posted by Goatie:
Shannahan is soooo much better then Mcvey

Is there a reason one has to be sooo much better then the other?
Originally posted by NCommand:
I know Niners816 touched on this but I was listening to a podcast from a couple weeks ago (John Chapman) that noted we were the most penalized team last year 13 of 16 games and 1 for 1 to start the year (accurate?)...coaching/discipline issues?

I feel like every time we get in the RZ it's an automatic holding penalty.

I think there is a few things in play there. Yes we are a tad undisciplined. Its been there all three years but isn't super glaring and I am ok with it now that things are starting to click. Its a complicated scheme and we are pushing our guys to play on the edge, with that comes some calls. It is gonna happen. But to the holding specifically which is a lot of those calls, the league clearly had an issue, Tom Fricken Brady called it out in a game he wasn't even playing in and the league responded by agreeing with him and sending a notice to the refs to chill the hell out on negating huge plays with very spurious holding calls. We saw how many of those weak calls we got in weeks one and two. Hopefully more time in the system and clear directions being given to the zebras to knock it off helps us improve that stat, but I wouldn't expect it to go away entirely for the reasons above.
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
I love Shanny but when it comes to his updates on injured players I don't think I'm gonna believe him anymore lol

Best policy...he is from the Bill B. School. Tell them nothing of use, and if force to say something that could be of use, make it as vague as possible...and if you can get away with it? Maybe even lie a little.
  • cciowa
  • Veteran
  • Posts: 60,541
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
I love Shanny but when it comes to his updates on injured players I don't think I'm gonna believe him anymore lol

Best policy...he is from the Bill B. School. Tell them nothing of use, and if force to say something that could be of use, make it as vague as possible...and if you can get away with it? Maybe even lie a little.

you would think if they went through the jh era ,. they would be used to it.. what would he say.... oh he is going through a thing.lol
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Goatie:
Shannahan is soooo much better then Mcvey

Is there a reason one has to be sooo much better then the other?


Yes there is
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Goatie:
Shannahan is soooo much better then Mcvey

Is there a reason one has to be sooo much better then the other?

Yes because you see how McVay loses. It is when the opponent stuff their run game that has no fullback. Kyle's run game hardly gets stuffed which means the success SEA had vs McVay won't translate to Kyle's offense.

Sort of a relief.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Goatie:
Shannahan is soooo much better then Mcvey

Is there a reason one has to be sooo much better then the other?

I'm here as well....McVay is a stud. Personally I've always felt like Kyle was better because I prefer the diversity of his offense from a personnel grouping stand point. The only thing that made me get sick of McVay was the constant sucking off by the media. The reinventing offense narrative was always b******t. Well that and the trolls on this forum that really didn't have a clue who he was constantly bringing him up just to throw s**t a Kyle.
He was a total stud with Gurley and the defense. Once each of them went south. Not so much. He's now living with 1-4 pts losses like Kyle in his first 2 years with us
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Goatie:
Shannahan is soooo much better then Mcvey

Is there a reason one has to be sooo much better then the other?

Yes because you see how McVay loses. It is when the opponent stuff their run game that has no fullback. Kyle's run game hardly gets stuffed which means the success SEA had vs McVay won't translate to Kyle's offense.

Sort of a relief.


It is also a tortious v a hare thing.

Shanahan has been going about building this team slowly and methodically. He hasn't been showing his hand in the past two seasons. Just keeping the scheming simple until he has all of the right talent in place. Strategically this has been brilliant.

Now he has a full deck he is playing his cards. The plays are far more complex this year and have opposition defences chasing their tails. The defense is there to back it up.

His biggest issue will be managing injuries and so far he is doing a good job of this.

Mcvey on the other hand has all his eggs in one basket with a couple of key players doing all of the heavy lifting. Now they, especially Gurley are off the boil, the Rams are not firing as well as they did last year. The depth is not there.

The game against the Cawks yesterday they did not play badly and only lost because of a missed field goal right at the end. But they were not as sharp as they were last year. They were just falling short. Mcvey should have been on top of this and had his pencil sharp. But it has been blunted. In my view the slump in form is on Mcvey and his lack of foresight. Shanahan is more forward thinking.
[ Edited by Goatie on Oct 4, 2019 at 4:12 PM ]
Search Share 49ersWebzone