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He called running plays this time. Good job Kyle!

Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
May have been revealing the cover-2 and Shanny knows that LB couldn't cover Kittle down the middle. Right after the play happened I turned to my wife and said, "they split the safeties in cover-2.

That's freaking amazing though. The Shanahan's are such underrated football minds. These guys call their shots, like BW used to.

They were in Quarters. Kittle was the #2 being watched by the safety. Juice then motions over strongside and becomes the new #2, which drew the attention of the safety (Quarters safety reads #2). That now puts Kittle as the #3, watched by a LB. It was all about that late pre-snap motion.

They showed quarters but post snap the safeties widened, showing cover 2. Shanny must've seen them show this quarters look then go cover 2 on film and saw something to reveal it pre-snap.
TRUE TEST COMING UP !!!

Shanny needs to come up w/a bigger and better game plan against those Lambs !!!

our WRs need to step up because they are the ones that will make a difference !!
Originally posted by Ensatsu:


He called running plays this time. Good job Kyle!


If he was averaging 9 yards a carry in that SB, he woulda called run plays then too
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Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
May have been revealing the cover-2 and Shanny knows that LB couldn't cover Kittle down the middle. Right after the play happened I turned to my wife and said, "they split the safeties in cover-2.

That's freaking amazing though. The Shanahan's are such underrated football minds. These guys call their shots, like BW used to.

They were in Quarters. Kittle was the #2 being watched by the safety. Juice then motions over strongside and becomes the new #2, which drew the attention of the safety (Quarters safety reads #2). That now puts Kittle as the #3, watched by a LB. It was all about that late pre-snap motion.

They showed quarters but post snap the safeties widened, showing cover 2. Shanny must've seen them show this quarters look then go cover 2 on film and saw something to reveal it pre-snap.

Check the depth and watch what the field safety does. They are in Quarters. I'll cut it up. The telecast showed an all22 view.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
May have been revealing the cover-2 and Shanny knows that LB couldn't cover Kittle down the middle. Right after the play happened I turned to my wife and said, "they split the safeties in cover-2.

That's freaking amazing though. The Shanahan's are such underrated football minds. These guys call their shots, like BW used to.

My personal playcalling
hierarchy is

BW
Elder Shanny
Holmgren

Kyle is the closest to these guys we've had.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
May have been revealing the cover-2 and Shanny knows that LB couldn't cover Kittle down the middle. Right after the play happened I turned to my wife and said, "they split the safeties in cover-2.

That's freaking amazing though. The Shanahan's are such underrated football minds. These guys call their shots, like BW used to.

They were in Quarters. Kittle was the #2 being watched by the safety. Juice then motions over strongside and becomes the new #2, which drew the attention of the safety (Quarters safety reads #2). That now puts Kittle as the #3, watched by a LB. It was all about that late pre-snap motion.

exactly what happened, Kyle confounded their coverage rules and made it like taking candy from a baby
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:


He called running plays this time. Good job Kyle!


If he was averaging 9 yards a carry in that SB, he woulda called run plays then too

whats the big deal? why wasnt he ever calling them before?
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:


He called running plays this time. Good job Kyle!


If he was averaging 9 yards a carry in that SB, he woulda called run plays then too

whats the big deal? why wasnt he ever calling them before?

Not Dan Quinn's defense lol
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
May have been revealing the cover-2 and Shanny knows that LB couldn't cover Kittle down the middle. Right after the play happened I turned to my wife and said, "they split the safeties in cover-2.

That's freaking amazing though. The Shanahan's are such underrated football minds. These guys call their shots, like BW used to.

They were in Quarters. Kittle was the #2 being watched by the safety. Juice then motions over strongside and becomes the new #2, which drew the attention of the safety (Quarters safety reads #2). That now puts Kittle as the #3, watched by a LB. It was all about that late pre-snap motion.

They showed quarters but post snap the safeties widened, showing cover 2. Shanny must've seen them show this quarters look then go cover 2 on film and saw something to reveal it pre-snap.

Check the depth and watch what the field safety does. They are in Quarters. I'll cut it up. The telecast showed an all22 view.

Looks like we're both right, to me, looks like cover 6
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
May have been revealing the cover-2 and Shanny knows that LB couldn't cover Kittle down the middle. Right after the play happened I turned to my wife and said, "they split the safeties in cover-2.

That's freaking amazing though. The Shanahan's are such underrated football minds. These guys call their shots, like BW used to.

They were in Quarters. Kittle was the #2 being watched by the safety. Juice then motions over strongside and becomes the new #2, which drew the attention of the safety (Quarters safety reads #2). That now puts Kittle as the #3, watched by a LB. It was all about that late pre-snap motion.

They showed quarters but post snap the safeties widened, showing cover 2. Shanny must've seen them show this quarters look then go cover 2 on film and saw something to reveal it pre-snap.

Check the depth and watch what the field safety does. They are in Quarters. I'll cut it up. The telecast showed an all22 view.

Looks like we're both right, to me, looks like cover 6


Look at the difference in depth and the way the boundary side CB is playing. Plus, the hook/curl defender on Dwelley should be playing him much closer if he's the only underneath defender on that side, especially with a RB coming out. Again, look at the other side, that guy is playing with outside leverage because he's in quarters whereas the other side he's playing with inside leverage on the same route, that tells me he knows he has help to the flat/short out area.


That Boundary side looks cover 2, all the way, to me.
[ Edited by jonnydel on Oct 8, 2019 at 11:14 AM ]
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I see that jd. Focusing on the playside where Kittle was able to get a mismatch.

This is how they originally line up. With Dwelly and Juice to one side. On the other side, the blue safety, I believe, is in Quarters. So his read right now is the #2 (Kittle).


Juice motions over. The blue safety sees it.


Juice is now the new #2 so Juice is now the blue safety's assignment (match #2 if vertical). Kittle is now the #3, and is red LB's assignment if #3 goes vertical.


Blue is watching Juice, not paying attention to Kittle because Kittle is #3 and is no longer blue's assignment. Red is too flat footed to defend a vertical from Kittle. Toast.


Originally posted by thl408:
I see that jd. Focusing on the playside where Kittle was able to get a mismatch.

This is how they originally line up. With Dwelly and Juice to one side. On the other side, the blue safety, I believe, is in Quarters. So his read right now is the #2 (Kittle).


Juice motions over. The blue safety sees it.


Juice is now the new #2 so Juice is now the blue safety's assignment (match #2 if vertical). Kittle is now the #3, and is red LB's assignment if #3 goes vertical.


Blue is watching Juice, not paying attention to Kittle because Kittle is #3 and is no longer blue's assignment. Red is too flat footed to defend a vertical from Kittle. Toast.



That is a classic way to attack Quarters, use #2 to get the safety to freeze and then run someone deep behind him (usually a Post by #1 but in this case a seam by #3)... good stuff!
[ Edited by riverrunzthruit on Oct 8, 2019 at 11:47 AM ]
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Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
That is a classic way to attack Quarters, use #2 to get the safety to freeze and then run someone deep behind him (usually a Post by #1 but in this case a seam by #3)... good stuff!

McGlinchy was on a postgame interview and explained how Kyle would breakdown why each presnap motion or shift manipulated the positioning and read by a specific defender. All to exploit a hole in the coverage, or improve an angle on a run block. I'll try to find it but it was on local radio, played as a snippet. Kyle is breaking defenses.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
That is a classic way to attack Quarters, use #2 to get the safety to freeze and then run someone deep behind him (usually a Post by #1 but in this case a seam by #3)... good stuff!

McGlinchy was on a postgame interview and explained how Kyle would breakdown why each presnap motion or shift manipulated the positioning and read by a specific defender. All to exploit a hole in the coverage, or improve an angle on a run block. I'll try to find it but it was on local radio, played as a snippet. Kyle is breaking defenses.

I totally see that chess match happening from Kyle, that is what is so great about the NFL is that Defenses actual respond to the motion and shifts to manipulate the outcomes you desire... but not so fun if the defense does not respond (like in high school football ) but as a playcaller, sometimes you can see the outcome like that before the snap so I get where Shanny was coming from. He just seemed to be in his playcalling zone last night, fun to watch
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