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Originally posted by smithgdwg:
Originally posted by okdkid:
So what are the minimum # of wins to make the playoffs, win the division, get a bye and get the #1 seed?

My guesses:

Min. wins for wildcard: 11
Division: 12
Bye: 13
#1 Seed: 14

Yep I think the only game we can lose now is the Ravens game to keep the #1 seed. Have to win all other games which will be a tall order.

13 wins will likely get us the #1 seed. You think every other top team in the NFC is going to win out? Come on.
Originally posted by MSteitz468:
Originally posted by smithgdwg:
Originally posted by okdkid:
So what are the minimum # of wins to make the playoffs, win the division, get a bye and get the #1 seed?

My guesses:

Min. wins for wildcard: 11
Division: 12
Bye: 13
#1 Seed: 14

Yep I think the only game we can lose now is the Ravens game to keep the #1 seed. Have to win all other games which will be a tall order.

13 wins will likely get us the #1 seed. You think every other top team in the NFC is going to win out? Come on.

Agreed. I think the Packers will end with 3 or 4 losses and the Saints 3 or 4 as well. Packers will struggle against the Vikings and never know about the Lions. Saints will get tough games from Panthers and Bucs (though I think they take care if the Bucs but never know).

The Seahawks play every game close so they will have at least one more loss before week 17. We are fine. We are 8-1 for a reason and have overcome most injuries. This last loss is tough to take cuz it's the Hawks
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by TyCore:
Originally posted by Joecool:
It's against teams like SEA and in cold weather when it helps to have bigger skill players. Sometimes, you just need to give the big guy the ball and let him outmuscle the opponent. That's what they did with DK...fortunately, DK fumbled.

This is why I don't see sanders as a true #1. He's a little too insubstantial.

Kinda frustrating, to me, to cough up draft capital for a guy who can't take a hit.

We already have that in Pettis.

I'd like to secure a big guy like Metcalf, but a little smarter player who can hold onto the ball.

Sanders is tough, and is very good in the middle of the field. Stop making up things to complain about.

He's tough? That's news to me. Just saw him leave the game for a day-to-day rib injury.


Gotta love when fans on message boards question players toughness
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Right now, I have zero issues with Kyle Shanahan, as far as playcalling. Fact of the matter is, he just doesn't have the tools to work with right now. Just a bunch of scrub ass receivers besides Deebo, Sanders, Kittle, and the backup TEs.

I expect opposing defenses to start stacking the box more, and playing more man coverage. Our guys just can't beat man. And even on the off chance that they do, they will drop the ball.

Hopefully at least one of Kittle and Sanders can play. Otherwise, we don't even have a shot.

That is exactly what is killing us. Thankfully Kittle and Sanders played vs AZ so it wasn't such a factor then. Now we see what we have with the rest of the WR corp.
Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Gotta love when fans on message boards question players toughness

I see what you're saying, but ad hominems aside, my biggest worry isn't actually toughness. Sure, he'd be tough if he plays through a rib injury.

Im more worried about durability. Getting injured to begin with. It's a problem with this team.
Study and Learn !!!

KEY to saving the season !!
Someone, whether KS or Saleh, needs to figure the best way to contain mobile QB's like Wilson, Murray, and Lamar who are in our future schedule. We won't really stop them but we need to contain them for sure.

As far as the WR's go - we have to play the hand we're dealt. Maybe Richie James is an ace we should play.

Do they make these WR's who drop passes walk around all week w/a ball in their hands like in times past?

If they can't be coached up to hold on to the ball maybe they can be embarrassed enough to do it.
[ Edited by LasVegasWally on Nov 13, 2019 at 11:33 AM ]
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Been saying this for awhile by NY keeps saying I have a fetish for big receivers. They just bring more to the table when the stakes are high.

Our biggest mistake was not signing a quality receiver in the off season and trying to draft our way out of the fact that our receivers are a bunch of finesse types.

We are now seeing this play out....
can't afford another divisional loss. Need to find a way to win this one. Injuries are on the way up.
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
"I agree with what you just said," Shanahan responded. "He's had a number of opportunities. I'm one of the guys that believed in him the most. That's why he's here. He's had his opportunities. The more he doesn't take advantage of his opportunities, the less opportunities he gets.

"He did get a couple last night because of injury and I didn't think he made them. We'll see how this week goes. Dante has the ability, but we're waiting for him to pick it up, and have the consistency, and take advantage of some of these opportunities he's gotten."


Pettis is Meh. Shanahan is more patient then I am.

yeah well, shanahan is a professional coach and at the highest level with experience spanning over a decade. you're just a fan. lol.
Originally posted by pete98146:
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Been saying this for awhile by NY keeps saying I have a fetish for big receivers. They just bring more to the table when the stakes are high.

Our biggest mistake was not signing a quality receiver in the off season and trying to draft our way out of the fact that our receivers are a bunch of finesse types.

We are now seeing this play out....

I would agree. Outside of Deebo who plays with a RB mindset, there are too many finesse types. Deebo just needs to hit the jugs machine 100x a day after practice. And on that note, I have to ask...do we even own a jugs machine? I say that a bit facetiously but I'm kind of serious too....
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Someone, whether KS or Saleh, needs to figure the best way to contain mobile QB's like Wilson, Murray, and Lamar who are in our future schedule. We won't really stop them but we need to contain them for sure.

As far as the WR's go - we have to play the hand we're dealt. Maybe Richie James is an ace we should play.

Do they make these WR's who drop passes walk around all week w/a ball in their hands like in times past?

If they can't be coached up to hold on to the ball maybe they can be embarrassed enough to do it.

Saleh has Wilson figured out. The ywo TD drives started at the 49ers 24 and 16 yard lines and Wilson had a passer rating in the 80s, over 20 points lower then his season rating.
Originally posted by Niners_D:
Originally posted by pete98146:
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Been saying this for awhile by NY keeps saying I have a fetish for big receivers. They just bring more to the table when the stakes are high.

Our biggest mistake was not signing a quality receiver in the off season and trying to draft our way out of the fact that our receivers are a bunch of finesse types.

We are now seeing this play out....

I would agree. Outside of Deebo who plays with a RB mindset, there are too many finesse types. Deebo just needs to hit the jugs machine 100x a day after practice. And on that note, I have to ask...do we even own a jugs machine? I say that a bit facetiously but I'm kind of serious too....
Maybe you should go to one of the open training camps. They all take turns on the jugs before and after practice.
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Right now, I have zero issues with Kyle Shanahan, as far as playcalling. Fact of the matter is, he just doesn't have the tools to work with right now. Just a bunch of scrub ass receivers besides Deebo, Sanders, Kittle, and the backup TEs.

I expect opposing defenses to start stacking the box more, and playing more man coverage. Our guys just can't beat man. And even on the off chance that they do, they will drop the ball.

Hopefully at least one of Kittle and Sanders can play. Otherwise, we don't even have a shot.

Doesn't it definitely feel similar to the Saleh situation? Sure, we ranked 11 in yards/play on defense last year. But we couldn't create turnovers to save our lives and had zero pass rush among other terrible things going on.

This year on offense. Sure, we can still move the ball. But we still have very visible holes on offense, and the opponents adjustments will only make that more difficult. Justin Smith was just talking about it this week, saying it's like the Harbaugh teams that just needed a couple pieces.

Re-sign Sanders and replace Pettis and Bourne with big-time talents at WR. More than open to letting them compete in camp, but ultimately hoping we find players so good that we can go into season with Sanders, Samuel, Hurd, and another couple new guys as the top 5.

It's against teams like SEA and in cold weather when it helps to have bigger skill players. Sometimes, you just need to give the big guy the ball and let him outmuscle the opponent. That's what they did with DK...fortunately, DK fumbled.

Been saying this for awhile by NY keeps saying I have a fetish for big receivers. They just bring more to the table when the stakes are high.

I think SEA provided a template for putting a kink in Kyle's offense armor.

#1: stay discipline on the back end. Do not chase outside your zone.
#2: blow up the run-lane gaps
#3: after blowing up the run-lane gaps and there's no run, go after the QB

We don't have a jump ball WR to worry a defense. Right now, especially without Kittle, Kyle relies heavily on out-scheming the opponent. Carrol is smart and didn't fall for the window dressing.

On the other hand, SEA has solid WRs and a very mobile and accurate QB to overcome the perfect defense. We don't.
[ Edited by Joecool on Nov 13, 2019 at 1:19 PM ]
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/130695-jimmy-garoppolo-glad-49ers-went-win-seahawks-rather/

agreed
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