49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by cciowa:
kyle got outcoached and maybe he outcoached himself. no hate. just need to do better sunday

I wouldn't say he got outcoached at all...they didn't do anything special or change anything up. If anything Kyle outcoached himself.

Part of the issue was Sanders being out. SF was rolling when he was in, you knew he was gonna be a big part of the offense on MNF. Our other WRs need to show up, beat man, all while SEA stacked the box all night. Our pass catchers for the most part didn't step up. Our tackles didn't give Jimmy time AND yes he didn't play good football.

All that s**t happened and we were a last sec FG in OT from winning the game. better days ahead.

i get sanders being out changed everything.. its like kyle thought holy f**k we are f**ked. he just looked kind of lost during the h entire game. i also get it was close. and yes if the kid would have come through it would be different. but you know had it not been for tarts smart play and a stupid play by a fat seattle lineman and heads up by aa... we would have been blown out by multiple scores. maybe i should have sided on he outcoached himself. but again. plenty of blame to go around for the game. hope they get back on track sunday and i bet they are preparing as if they will not have sanders and kittle. so we will not be blindsided. pettis and goodwin are still crap

Originally posted by cciowa:
i get sanders being out changed everything.. its like kyle thought holy f**k we are f**ked. he just looked kind of lost during the h entire game. i also get it was close. and yes if the kid would have come through it would be different. but you know had it not been for tarts smart play and a stupid play by a fat seattle lineman and heads up by aa... we would have been blown out by multiple scores. maybe i should have sided on he outcoached himself. but again. plenty of blame to go around for the game. hope they get back on track sunday and i bet they are preparing as if they will not have sanders and kittle. so we will not be blindsided. pettis and goodwin are still crap

Not really there were plays to be had, dudes just didn't make them. 9 dropped balls. That's not on Kyle. I would have liked some easy screens maybe run the ball once at the end of that last drive.

I mean you can say the same thing for Seattle's defense then. if not for Clowney bailing them out then what? Wilson didn't look like an MVP QB at all. On drives that didn't start with a TO Seattle had 7 punts, 3 fumbles, 1 INT, and 2 FGS. SO NO we wouldn't have gotten blown out.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by cciowa:
i get sanders being out changed everything.. its like kyle thought holy f**k we are f**ked. he just looked kind of lost during the h entire game. i also get it was close. and yes if the kid would have come through it would be different. but you know had it not been for tarts smart play and a stupid play by a fat seattle lineman and heads up by aa... we would have been blown out by multiple scores. maybe i should have sided on he outcoached himself. but again. plenty of blame to go around for the game. hope they get back on track sunday and i bet they are preparing as if they will not have sanders and kittle. so we will not be blindsided. pettis and goodwin are still crap

Not really there were plays to be had, dudes just didn't make them. 9 dropped balls. That's not on Kyle. I would have liked some easy screens maybe run the ball once at the end of that last drive.

I mean you can say the same thing for Seattle's defense then. if not for Clowney bailing them out then what? Wilson didn't look like an MVP QB at all. On drives that didn't start with a TO Seattle had 7 punts, 3 fumbles, 1 INT, and 2 FGS. SO NO we wouldn't have gotten blown out.

wilson made the play of the game,. after our 20 second drive. sorry.. a close loss makes me crazier than a blow out.. i am not mad at the kid kicker at all. i get how banged up we were and still fought. i love that.... i just can not see the positives from monday. my problem. not yours! they did battle.. but in over time... our offense was just not good and lot of blame to go around for it. overall defense was good but we are springing leaks in the run game and big players make big plays. people can make fun of wilson but he made the play of the game at crunch time

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by PA49ersfan:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by PA49ersfan:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Any thoughts on Wagner's comments?

My thoughts are our o line was getting owned. So that makes a linebacker job a hell of a lot easier. Screw him.

So no concerns about Wagner starting to figure out Jimmy G's checks at the LOS.

Just because Wagner said it's true? No not concerned.

kyle got outcoached and maybe he outcoached himself. no hate. just need to do better sunday

lol ok, whatever your little heart believes

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by cciowa:

i get sanders being out changed everything.. its like kyle thought holy f**k we are f**ked. he just looked kind of lost during the h entire game. i also get it was close. and yes if the kid would have come through it would be different. but you know had it not been for tarts smart play and a stupid play by a fat seattle lineman and heads up by aa... we would have been blown out by multiple scores. maybe i should have sided on he outcoached himself. but again. plenty of blame to go around for the game. hope they get back on track sunday and i bet they are preparing as if they will not have sanders and kittle. so we will not be blindsided. pettis and goodwin are still crap

Not really there were plays to be had, dudes just didn't make them. 9 dropped balls. That's not on Kyle. I would have liked some easy screens maybe run the ball once at the end of that last drive.

I mean you can say the same thing for Seattle's defense then. if not for Clowney bailing them out then what? Wilson didn't look like an MVP QB at all. On drives that didn't start with a TO Seattle had 7 punts, 3 fumbles, 1 INT, and 2 FGS. SO NO we wouldn't have gotten blown out.

The defense was great. The offense was terrible giving up 21 points.

Saleh had an A+ game.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Joecool:
So no concerns about Wagner starting to figure out Jimmy G's checks at the LOS.

The only reason you say something like that is to get into the heads of the opposing players. If McLaughlin doesn't miss that last FG, if Sanders doesn't go out, Wagner isn't saying a damn thing.

I agree. If they actually picked up anything from us they wouldn't be saying anything of the sort to us considering they have to play us at least one more time.

Honestly my biggest concern heading into the Seattle game after the Arizona game was whether our D was "figured out" or would struggle against mobile QBs.

Our D showed the hell up against Wilson who may be the best QB in terms of mobility & ability as a passer and really kept him in check.

As bad as our offense looked I'm confident Kyle will get it figured out, especially when Kittle and Sanders come back.

Our D is legit and it will keep us in games all year long. Just have to avoid mental errors and stop hurting ourselves.

Originally posted by genus49:

Honestly my biggest concern heading into the Seattle game after the Arizona game was whether our D was "figured out" or would struggle against mobile QBs.

Our D showed the hell up against Wilson who may be the best QB in terms of mobility & ability as a passer and really kept him in check.

As bad as our offense looked I'm confident Kyle will get it figured out, especially when Kittle and Sanders come back.

Our D is legit and it will keep us in games all year long. Just have to avoid mental errors and stop hurting ourselves.

One addition: please coach, leave one guy in the middle of the field in case murray takes off up the gut. That one time we didn't , RW ate our lonche.

Hey, coach, you don't need any advice from me, but here's a practice thot.:

Try all our "dropsy" WRs with using NO GLOVES. And have them practice with Jimmy but have him throw passes that aren't on the mark. ..ie, bad passes, but still catchable. It probably is nothing but when i see 9 balls bounce out of not WRs hands....but gloves...well, it makes me wonder. Gloves may not be the answer but what if it makes a difference? Even a little improvement would be appreciated.

It is just hard to believe virtually all our WRs had balls bounce off their hands ...er gloves. (And that includes Au jus also) . Just for grins, try it.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by PA49ersfan:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by PA49ersfan:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Any thoughts on Wagner's comments?

My thoughts are our o line was getting owned. So that makes a linebacker job a hell of a lot easier. Screw him.

So no concerns about Wagner starting to figure out Jimmy G's checks at the LOS.

Just because Wagner said it's true? No not concerned.

kyle got outcoached and maybe he outcoached himself. no hate. just need to do better sunday

lol ok, whatever your little heart believes

no need to get all bent out of shape. or maybe he did not as coach as well as he is capable off. a 20 second drive in overtime.. is not good coaching giving the ball back to wilson

As Herm famously said, "you play to win the game!" Not for a tie

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Hey, coach, you don't need any advice from me, but here's a practice thot.:

Try all our "dropsy" WRs with using NO GLOVES. And have them practice with Jimmy but have him throw passes that aren't on the mark. ..ie, bad passes, but still catchable. It probably is nothing but when i see 9 balls bounce out of not WRs hands....but gloves...well, it makes me wonder. Gloves may not be the answer but what if it makes a difference? Even a little difference would be appreciated.

It is just hard to believe virtually all our WRs had balls bounce off their hands ...er gloves. (And that includes Au jus also) . Just for grins, try it.

The problem was on all of them, they took their eyes off the ball. Started trying to run before they had the ball.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by PA49ersfan:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by PA49ersfan:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Any thoughts on Wagner's comments?

My thoughts are our o line was getting owned. So that makes a linebacker job a hell of a lot easier. Screw him.

So no concerns about Wagner starting to figure out Jimmy G's checks at the LOS.

Just because Wagner said it's true? No not concerned.

kyle got outcoached and maybe he outcoached himself. no hate. just need to do better sunday

lol ok, whatever your little heart believes

no need to get all bent out of shape. or maybe he did not as coach as well as he is capable off. a 20 second drive in overtime.. is not good coaching giving the ball back to wilson

As Herm famously said, "you play to win the game!" Not for a tie

Yeah, I have a hard time killing the play calling because it got us into scoring position the whole game despite everyone on the O playing below their standard.

The people arguing for a tie haven't ever played on an undefeated team trying to extend a winning streak.

I swear, some people. If "this" had happened or "that" had happened or we had done this and they had done that, the outcome would have been completely different The game was what it was, Jimmy G. could have easily had three more picks in that game but he didn't. He got bailed out on a penalty on the Seattle defenders dropped two gimmes, which is on them. Are those near misses a cause for concern, maybe, but Jimmy was battling and trying to keep the team in a really tough game without two of his best receiving options on the field and being under pretty much constant pressure all night. Most people commenting on the game have said that Clowney might have had his best game ever as a pro.

And this whole Seattle's defense is ranked so and so is just silly. When has Seattle ever not brought their best game against us. There is also something to be said for the fact that apparently they have a lot of young guys on their roster who are still learning to play together and their early season struggles are a reflection of that. The Atlanta defense, which has also been one of the worst in the league this year if I'm not mistaken, held the Saints to 9 points. 9 points.

I have always been an any given Sunday kind of guy. I think just about every team in the league is capable of beating every other team for no other reason than the stars happened to align the right way on that particular day. This was a tough game against one of our toughest rivals. It would have been great to come out of there with a win, but we didn't. Now the onus is on us to go out and prove that we deserve to win this division. It will probably mean going to Seattle for the last game of the year and winning in their house, but that's what championship team do isn't it. If we can't do that then maybe we aren't ready to be champions yet.

Wagner: "Once we started reading keys, me and KJ started hearing the calls and picked up on the checks he was making, and it allowed us to break faster."

If they have an idea on what you are doing and where to go, it's pretty tough to have success no matter how great of an X's and O's guy your head coach is.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by PA49ersfan:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by PA49ersfan:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Any thoughts on Wagner's comments?

My thoughts are our o line was getting owned. So that makes a linebacker job a hell of a lot easier. Screw him.

So no concerns about Wagner starting to figure out Jimmy G's checks at the LOS.

Just because Wagner said it's true? No not concerned.

kyle got outcoached and maybe he outcoached himself. no hate. just need to do better sunday

lol ok, whatever your little heart believes

no need to get all bent out of shape. or maybe he did not as coach as well as he is capable off. a 20 second drive in overtime.. is not good coaching giving the ball back to wilson

As Herm famously said, "you play to win the game!" Not for a tie

i never said go for the tie... number one before we did the long pass to deebo which was fine with me. we should have tried to run it.and then yes.. i would have went for it on fourth and a half yard to get the kid kicker a little closer

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by genus49:
Honestly my biggest concern heading into the Seattle game after the Arizona game was whether our D was "figured out" or would struggle against mobile QBs.

Our D showed the hell up against Wilson who may be the best QB in terms of mobility & ability as a passer and really kept him in check.

As bad as our offense looked I'm confident Kyle will get it figured out, especially when Kittle and Sanders come back.

Our D is legit and it will keep us in games all year long. Just have to avoid mental errors and stop hurting ourselves.

One addition: please coach, leave one guy in the middle of the field in case murray takes off up the gut. That one time we didn't , RW ate our lonche.

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