49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Hey, coach, you don't need any advice from me, but here's a practice thot.:

Try all our "dropsy" WRs with using NO GLOVES. And have them practice with Jimmy but have him throw passes that aren't on the mark. ..ie, bad passes, but still catchable. It probably is nothing but when i see 9 balls bounce out of not WRs hands....but gloves...well, it makes me wonder. Gloves may not be the answer but what if it makes a difference? Even a little difference would be appreciated.

It is just hard to believe virtually all our WRs had balls bounce off their hands ...er gloves. (And that includes Au jus also) . Just for grins, try it.

The problem was on all of them, they took their eyes off the ball. Started trying to run before they had the ball.

Yeah, JD they sure did and you could definitely see some of that quite well. But there were some where i didn't see it. I guess when you see that many drops you start grabbing at straws. I still wonder tho...it's only 1 mm or so difference with a glove on but maybe the feel is 1 millisecond faster with no gloves. Some of those passes just hit gloves and kept on going. It's just a thot and would be pretty easy to test out. Probably take all of 10 minutes to test out.

I've used gloves in different sports, and not in others. Golf is a no brainer in that you can grip the club a lot better. Baseball and the bat the same. But why dont' basketball players use gloves?. They get some rockets thrown at them by teammates. Football is a different shape but close in size. I still say what would it hurt to try?

Originally posted by Niners_D:
Wagner: "Once we started reading keys, me and KJ started hearing the calls and picked up on the checks he was making, and it allowed us to break faster."

If they have an idea on what you are doing and where to go, it's pretty tough to have success no matter how great of an X's and O's guy your head coach is.

Yet, as Greg Cosell said, Garappolo still hit open receivers that would have gained huge chunks of yardage against them if they had just caught the ball. Wagner breaking faster isn't what helped them out on those plays.

Originally posted by Hurd14:
well I the problem with small receivers ,is when you play physical teams they can not take a pounding when blocking or the ability to separate.last was a indication that we need size speed and durability....

You mean like DK Metcalf, your favorite player. Get outta here Seahawk fan.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Niners_D:
Wagner: "Once we started reading keys, me and KJ started hearing the calls and picked up on the checks he was making, and it allowed us to break faster."

If they have an idea on what you are doing and where to go, it's pretty tough to have success no matter how great of an X's and O's guy your head coach is.

Yet, as Greg Cosell said, Garappolo still hit open receivers that would have gained huge chunks of yardage against them if they had just caught the ball. Wagner breaking faster isn't what helped them out on those plays.

Agreed. I can point to two specific drops that, arguably, directly effected us winning that game. Both came from Kendrick Bourne. His second one may have been worse than the tipped INT because it was on the 9 yard line setting up a first and goal with 7:09 left in the game, down by 3.

Last Monday night was probably the least clutch performance out of 49ers receivers that I can remember. That's saying something because we have had some pretty terrible receivers since TO left town.

Shanny getting ripped on radio for his clock management in ot and not having the option for a tie. They saying of niners miss out on a bye it will be because that poor coaching in ot.

So far shanny has not shown the ability to make correct decisions in big games. Hopefully he can correct this

Originally posted by susweel:

Shanny getting ripped on radio for his clock management in ot and not having the option for a tie. They saying of niners miss out on a bye it will be because that poor coaching in ot.

So far shanny has not shown the ability to make correct decisions in big games. Hopefully he can correct this

Nothing inspires a team like a coach showing that he believes so little in his players that he starts waving the white flag.



You win games, you lose games, you always play to win.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by susweel:

Shanny getting ripped on radio for his clock management in ot and not having the option for a tie. They saying of niners miss out on a bye it will be because that poor coaching in ot.

So far shanny has not shown the ability to make correct decisions in big games. Hopefully he can correct this

Nothing inspires a team like a coach showing that he believes so little in his players that he starts waving the white flag.



You win games, you lose games, you always play to win.

I understand that but should have ran it at least once to milk some clock just in case. Just wasn't handled correctly only using 17 seconds. We should have either won or tied, losing shouldn't have been an option.

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by susweel:
Shanny getting ripped on radio for his clock management in ot and not having the option for a tie. They saying of niners miss out on a bye it will be because that poor coaching in ot.

So far shanny has not shown the ability to make correct decisions in big games. Hopefully he can correct this

Nothing inspires a team like a coach showing that he believes so little in his players that he starts waving the white flag.

You win games, you lose games, you always play to win.

I understand that but should have ran it at least once to milk some clock just in case. Just wasn't handled correctly only using 17 seconds. We should have either won or tied, losing shouldn't have been an option.

a 20 second drive when you have a qb like wilson. no matter how many funny names homers call him.. is asking for trouble. of course we should have tried to run it. just giving it right back to wilson. not to mention having no faith in your team to get a half yard on fourth down before we missed the field goal also is not smart. before the game began we said. we can not have 20 second drives and allow wilson to be on the field. well we did and at the worst possible moment. oh but i get it... most nfl teams have clock management issues. most nfl teams have wide outs who can not catch the ball, even rice dropped a few balls in his first six games

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by susweel:
Shanny getting ripped on radio for his clock management in ot and not having the option for a tie. They saying of niners miss out on a bye it will be because that poor coaching in ot.

So far shanny has not shown the ability to make correct decisions in big games. Hopefully he can correct this

Nothing inspires a team like a coach showing that he believes so little in his players that he starts waving the white flag.

You win games, you lose games, you always play to win.

I understand that but should have ran it at least once to milk some clock just in case. Just wasn't handled correctly only using 17 seconds. We should have either won or tied, losing shouldn't have been an option.

a 20 second drive when you have a qb like wilson. no matter how many funny names homers call him.. is asking for trouble. of course we should have tried to run it. just giving it right back to wilson. not to mention having no faith in your team to get a half yard on fourth down before we missed the field goal also is not smart. before the game began we said. we can not have 20 second drives and allow wilson to be on the field. well we did and at the worst possible moment. oh but i get it... most nfl teams have clock management issues. most nfl teams have wide outs who can not catch the ball, even rice dropped a few balls in his first six games

This. You can play to win the game, not tie, AND still be smart about it. There's no excuses here, Kyle made a flat out dumb decision not to run more clock considering how much of a big play playground potential SEA has.

Kyle now has a track record of bad decisions in big games.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by susweel:
Shanny getting ripped on radio for his clock management in ot and not having the option for a tie. They saying of niners miss out on a bye it will be because that poor coaching in ot.

So far shanny has not shown the ability to make correct decisions in big games. Hopefully he can correct this

Nothing inspires a team like a coach showing that he believes so little in his players that he starts waving the white flag.

You win games, you lose games, you always play to win.

I understand that but should have ran it at least once to milk some clock just in case. Just wasn't handled correctly only using 17 seconds. We should have either won or tied, losing shouldn't have been an option.

a 20 second drive when you have a qb like wilson. no matter how many funny names homers call him.. is asking for trouble. of course we should have tried to run it. just giving it right back to wilson. not to mention having no faith in your team to get a half yard on fourth down before we missed the field goal also is not smart. before the game began we said. we can not have 20 second drives and allow wilson to be on the field. well we did and at the worst possible moment. oh but i get it... most nfl teams have clock management issues. most nfl teams have wide outs who can not catch the ball, even rice dropped a few balls in his first six games

This. You can play to win the game, not tie, AND still be smart about it. There's no excuses here, Kyle made a flat out dumb decision not to run more clock considering how much of a big play playground potential SEA has.

Kyle now has a track record of bad decisions in big games.

I can't disagree. I will say however, that there is no coach in the league that I would rather have for this team from an X's and O's standpoint. Hopefully he learns from this and it has a positive impact in his late-game tactics in the future.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by susweel:

Shanny getting ripped on radio for his clock management in ot and not having the option for a tie. They saying of niners miss out on a bye it will be because that poor coaching in ot.

So far shanny has not shown the ability to make correct decisions in big games. Hopefully he can correct this

Nothing inspires a team like a coach showing that he believes so little in his players that he starts waving the white flag.

You win games, you lose games, you always play to win.

I understand that but should have ran it at least once to milk some clock just in case. Just wasn't handled correctly only using 17 seconds. We should have either won or tied, losing shouldn't have been an option.

a 20 second drive when you have a qb like wilson. no matter how many funny names homers call him.. is asking for trouble. of course we should have tried to run it. just giving it right back to wilson. not to mention having no faith in your team to get a half yard on fourth down before we missed the field goal also is not smart. before the game began we said. we can not have 20 second drives and allow wilson to be on the field. well we did and at the worst possible moment. oh but i get it... most nfl teams have clock management issues. most nfl teams have wide outs who can not catch the ball, even rice dropped a few balls in his first six games

This. You can play to win the game, not tie, AND still be smart about it. There's no excuses here, Kyle made a flat out dumb decision not to run more clock considering how much of a big play playground potential SEA has.

Kyle now has a track record of bad decisions in big games.

Yup this and the choke job in the superbowl. This is not a good trend.

Back in my day we never played for a tie, and you know what we beat the Vietnamese

Originally posted by JMC52:

Back in my day we never played for a tie, and you know what we beat the Vietnamese

Originally posted by Niners_D:
I can't disagree. I will say however, that there is no coach in the league that I would rather have for this team from an X's and O's standpoint. Hopefully he learns from this and it has a positive impact in his late-game tactics in the future.

ok. but years with atlanta as a oc . super bowl experience where he was rightfully questioned with his decisions and now three years head coach here,, you would think he would have a better handle on what to do at crunch time. face it, he outcoached himself for whatever reason.. oh i know whats coming... not to compare him with bill walsh but even bill made some boo boos

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by susweel:

Shanny getting ripped on radio for his clock management in ot and not having the option for a tie. They saying of niners miss out on a bye it will be because that poor coaching in ot.

So far shanny has not shown the ability to make correct decisions in big games. Hopefully he can correct this

Nothing inspires a team like a coach showing that he believes so little in his players that he starts waving the white flag.

You win games, you lose games, you always play to win.

I understand that but should have ran it at least once to milk some clock just in case. Just wasn't handled correctly only using 17 seconds. We should have either won or tied, losing shouldn't have been an option.

a 20 second drive when you have a qb like wilson. no matter how many funny names homers call him.. is asking for trouble. of course we should have tried to run it. just giving it right back to wilson. not to mention having no faith in your team to get a half yard on fourth down before we missed the field goal also is not smart. before the game began we said. we can not have 20 second drives and allow wilson to be on the field. well we did and at the worst possible moment. oh but i get it... most nfl teams have clock management issues. most nfl teams have wide outs who can not catch the ball, even rice dropped a few balls in his first six games

This. You can play to win the game, not tie, AND still be smart about it. There's no excuses here, Kyle made a flat out dumb decision not to run more clock considering how much of a big play playground potential SEA has.

Kyle now has a track record of bad decisions in big games.

Yup this and the choke job in the superbowl. This is not a good trend.

Should we call up Tomsula or Chip? They had some trends too.

1) If the kicker makes the FG, nobody is talking about any of this.

2) If the refs spot the ball where it should've been, that's a first down, and we're running clock and giving the kicker a better chance. The RB was sitting on the line. There isn't enough attention being paid to that spot, but oh well.

Although I thought we'd have gotten a first with a QB sneak,
I can't blame Shanahan for wanting to end it right there, and trusting McLaughlin. The kid was nails before that kick, But the pressure got him.