49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Rome will not be rebuilt in a day. Losing sucks and if we end up with a bad record that will suck, but we can take solace in the fact that we end up in a better position to improve the roster with a prime draft slot. Frustrating as the process is, it will take time to rebuild the roster. I trust the new regime at the helm to find the right pieces required to restore the team to a level where we are a consistent playoff contender year in and year out. Unfortunately there will be plenty of growing pains along the way.

Shanny is helping turn this franchise in the right direction, i still believe him and lynch can accomplish this. Still the beginning stages, the learning from mistakes the growing pains. Its easy to say be patient, but we might just have to be.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Miserable loss today but if you seriously want Shanahan gone right now please do not reproduce. We could go 1-15 and I would still want him back next year. We need some coaching continuity for once in order to establish something positive.

People wanted Baalke gone, they wanted an offensive minded head coach. They got both. Together they flushed out much of the roster, brought in a bunch of new players, some long-time players, some who are merely fillers until better players can be acquired. This is not an overnight process. What I'm looking for is gradual improvement as the season goes on, improvement in the younger players especially and more competitive player overall. This is not a quick fix, anyone expecting a quick fix was merely deluding themselves.

Carolina for all its warts is still a pretty damn good team, good enough to have made the SB 2 years ago. They had a post-SB hangover last season but there's no reason to think that they won't be in the mix this year, especially with as much talent as they have on defense. Its going to be some rough sledding, especially with a pissed off Seattle team on deck but Shanahan and Lynch need to be given the time to build the roster the way they see fit. If this team still isn't somewhat competitive after three offseasons, then people can start freaking out and talking about the possibility of a change in leadership.

one sided Ref game..thats all. nothing we can do about it

Originally posted by beatherhard:

Originally posted by captveg:

I didn't see Shanny being outcoached or underprepared. I saw his players being out-performed.

Not just one, but THREE failed 4th down attempts, two of which were runs up the gut behind a s**tty OL. Hell, Carolina brought 5 or 6 men on the rush every single play in the second half. "Outcoached."

ZERO second half adjustments. Oh wait. We went into a soft zone in the second half and let Cam go to town. "Outcoached."

10 penalties. "Underprepared."

Garbage time at the half = outcoached.

You say outcouched, I say learning curve with the OL talent he has, something one doesn't truly learn until bullets are flying in real games.

I love the decision to go for it on 4th in every case. If I was a HC I would never punt unless within my own 40 or 4th down was 6+ yards.

The players need to execute the plays better, but that'll come with experience and player upgrades as time goes on. The penalties are gonna happen with so many new variables and young players. You say unprepared, I say inexperienced players. You'll notice it wasn't the vets having formation or procedural penalties.

Originally posted by susweel:

You thought he coached good today ?

Specifically tell me which concepts used you didn't like. What would you have done different? Personally this game played out like I think at least 11 more are gonna play out.

I don't give a s**t about anything that happened after going down 20-0 because the game was over at that point. Personally, I probably don't go for it on 4th to end the first half and try to go in at 10-0 Getting the ball. All in all, this is the results you get when you don't have a QB and are in the first year of an offense install.

I did like that there was guys getting open but you gotta have a guy to get it to them and then need to make the play. Hoyer missed some guys and Goodwin totally messed that deep ball up. It's gonna get worse before it gets better unfortunately.

I liked how he was aggressive in going for it on 4th down. Eventually we will be converting those, once we have a real QB and the OL in place.

Originally posted by krizay:

No one is saying this was a good showing by any means. BUTwe have to remember Brian Hoyer is our QB. Expectations should be tempered.

Who's fault is that?

How you going to tell Brian F'n Hoyer of all QBs "don't worry the job is all yours... you are the man, no competition .. don't sign with the Bills"

Brian has confidence building counceling for a reason. He calls it something different, but that is what it really is.

I've never believed in it.

Fullback dive and Line up your RB and throw a wide receiver screen aren't the best 4th down plays i've seen in my 35 years of watching football....Jus Saying

Originally posted by krizay:
No one is saying this was a good showing by any means. BUTwe have to remember Brian Hoyer is our QB. Expectations should be tempered.

Hoyer is a place marker, a guy who knows the scheme and can run it decently but that isn't going to happen if Beadles is getting blown off the line of scrimmage repeatedly. I don't have any issues with Hoyer. He's not the franchise QB, he's not a future anything, he's just a guy holding down the position for a year while they find "THE guy."

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by susweel:

That was about as bad as coaching debut I've seen the team looked totally unprepared. The in game management was amateurish.

49ers under Bill Walsh lost their first 7 games. I am sure by today's standards people would have been calling for that hack to be fired after 3 games.

Why am I not surprised its the same posters spewing the same narratives.

You thought he coached good today ?

I thought the coaching sucked.

To many penalties and that comes down to The lack of discipline of the team which is due to the coach .

We had zero push up front but go for it multiple times? Why is that? Field position is key and just keep giving the field position to The other team..

And we have zero pass rush.. zero..
let's get rid of brooks...

And how did our slot reciever do since we got rid of kerley, who can move the chains and is dependable...

Why?

People sayin. let the young boys learn and grow... really? Blow up any reliable talent we have for unknows? That is not how you build a f**king team at all...keep some good pieces around you and keep building on that..

Did they run A. Lynch in the ground enough during preseason??
That's on the HC/GM

Keep brooks, rotate a fresh brooks and lynch, keep kerly.. f**k who know, a few plays here and there in the 1st 1/2 and who knows...


This was a s**t show

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by tohara3:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:

Shanahan will straighten things out, the the offense will be crisper. Hoyer is just holding a place, if things go south quickly give Bethard a shot and see if he can play. This isn't an overnight process, be patient.

Agreed. We have to be very patient with this extremely young roster

Shanahan's first game as a HC, DC with limited experience, more new faces than any team...I guess we should not expect a juggernaut this year...

1979: 2-14; most points in a game--28--38 loss, 27--28 loss, 24--27 loss, 24--35 loss. Wins were 20--15 and 23--7...and they had many more veterans on that team.

Should have fired Walsh midseason to get that 1979 club to a couple more wins that year.

Because 4-12 or 5-11 in 1979 at the sacrifice of being patient and getting a system in place that gave the team a shot every season for nearly 20 years was clearly the thing they should have done. Right? RIGHT?

And man, that Walsh was simply too overwhelmed to be calling his own plays that year. What a scrub.

Originally posted by jeepzilla:
I thought the coaching sucked.

To many penalties and that comes down to The lack of discipline of the team which is due to the coach .

We had zero push up front but go for it multiple times? Why is that? Field position is key and just keep giving the field position to The other team..

And we have zero pass rush.. zero..
let's get rid of brooks...

And how did our slot reciever do since we got rid of kerley, who can move the chains and is dependable...

Why?

People sayin. let the young boys learn and grow... really? Blow up any reliable talent we have for unknows? That is not how you build a f**king team at all...keep some good pieces around you and keep building on that..

Did they run A. Lynch in the ground enough during preseason??
That's on the HC/GM

Keep brooks, rotate a fresh brooks and lynch, keep kerly.. f**k who know, a few plays here and there in the 1st 1/2 and who knows...

This was a s**t show

What exactly does that accomplish since he is out the door at the end of the season anyways? You cut a young player to hold on to a guy that at best might help you win a game more? Might as well throw the young guys out there, let them sink or swim. If you look at the way Seattle rebuilt, they didn't do it by holding on to a bunch of guys nearing the end of their careers. They loaded up on young players and let them play their way on or off the roster.

These young guys will either step their games up as the season goes on, and we'll know that they are keepers, or they will flush out and be replaced in the offseason.

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Who's fault is that?

How you going to tell Brian F'n Hoyer of all QBs "don't worry the job is all yours... you are the man, no competition ..

That Walsh idiot sure made a mistake telling Steve F'n DeBerg that he was the starter. Totally Walsh's fault. What a hack HC.

I don't have a problem going for it on 4th and short at midfield. I think the decision is fine with a young team, at home, with few expectations.

But I think the play calls were poor. Why make Juice run 4 yards to his left before being able to get upfield? No sense making him run 5 yards to get one so close to the LOS.