49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Where is the team now? 4 years later. No qb, no offensive line, no cbs, no every down back. Draft misses and free agent misses. Is this a rebuild again? Are we looking at another 4 years of rebuild? That's 8 years of garbage? 1 superbowl loss. I can't understand how people are not angry with the state of the franchise. Shanahan was on the hot seat last year. He was lucky everything went perfect and it bought him a new contract. How many more years is this going to buy him?

Hey man If you can't look at the film and see all the yards left on the field because of trash QB play or refuse to acknowledge that theres $80M dollars on IR which is a big problem...that's on you.

Kyle is NOT the problem...that's a extremely lazy take.

How can you not place blame on kyle?

He wanted cousins over a number of other qbs that were available including mahomes.
He wanted joe williams
He wanted dante pettis
He keeps pushing for tevin coleman and mckinnon.
He built this soft team.
Jimmy was a different qb when he got here. What shanahan did to him I can't explain.
I can go on and on, but to argue that shanahan has done a fantastic job is just being blind.
He will have three out 4 years with a losing record.
He blew the superbowl by refusing to run. His 4th quarter offense was a joke.
You can't tell me these are not legitimate concerns.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

nit picking and playing down his roll in the offense is not being objective. but continue to smear

Nitpicking would be there's some small thing isn't not great at lol.

What exactly is he really great at? Awesome he can dump the ball off very quickly.

I'll tell ya what he's not amazing at.

-moving the ball downfield with his arm
-throwing past the 1st down marker (bottom in the league past two yrs)
-reading defenses pre/post snap.
-mechanics overall
-staying healthy
-mobility
-overall arm talent

He's a avg QB who was put in an an amazing situation last yr. he's better than who else they have on their roster.

That's not nitpicking it's the damn truth.

s**t I get called a homer in here all the damn time and stickup for players. Now I can't be objective on a guy lol.

Kyle is the best thing to happen to this franchise in a long time. He's part of the solution.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

How can you not place blame on kyle?

He wanted cousins over a number of other qbs that were available including mahomes.
He wanted joe williams
He wanted dante pettis
He keeps pushing for tevin coleman and mckinnon.
He built this soft team.
Jimmy was a different qb when he got here. What shanahan did to him I can't explain.
I can go on and on, but to argue that shanahan has done a fantastic job is just being blind.
He will have three out 4 years with a losing record.
He blew the superbowl by refusing to run. His 4th quarter offense was a joke.
You can't tell me these are not legitimate concerns.

I don't think Kirk is a bad QB and none of us know how he would be with kyle in SF. That was also his first off season as a HC. Still complaining about what it's from 2017 is old and stale.

He wanted Kittle, TW, Bosa and Warner as well.

Losing record with a UDFA and Hoyer as the starters lol. You lack actual depth with your complaints. Again he's taken chicken s**t and turned it into chicken salad. When he's has at the very least a serviceable QB they win.

Calling a team soft that near the league in YAC, running and has had a top end defense...what a joke lol.

As far as the SB goes...you need to actually rewatch it. Jimmy called out of running plays, missed open receivers, if not for a chris Jones block they win that game...oh and maybe Mahomes is just really freaking good. He made a play that only like one other QB could have made.

Kyle is NOT the problem. At all.

Originally posted by thl408:

Kyle is the best thing to happen to this franchise in a long time. He's part of the solution.

Thank you!!

It's so incredibly dumb & lazy to think he's the problem.

Originally posted by RidiculousJimmyBlame:

LOL, 49er fans in this thread are still indirectly calling Joe Montana an average QB because all of their claims about Jimmy apply to him as well. Yet I'll bet these same 49er fans consider Montana the "GOAT."

Regarding Kyle: While I don't blame him for losing last night, I'm really sick of all the undeserved praise he gets. His offenses never have any rhythm. He gets his QBs killed with the slow developing plays he calls. Skule was getting (sorry) schooled last night, and he never chips Smith. He thinks WRs and TEs are RBs.

Oh, and let's address probably the worst problem of all: Kyle's management of the team. HIs practices are the lightest in the league. He rushed both Jimmy and George back onto the field, and they clearly weren't healthy. They sustained bigger injuries because Kyle has no idea how to evaluate player health and obviously defies the doctor recommendations.

Now, there's obviously no way they're getting rid of him, but I'm going to bash him as long as he's still here and pulling this crap.

Comparing Montana to Jimmy hahahahahahahahaha.

Jimmy wishes he could read a defense like Joe. He wishes he could thread a pass into a tight window like Joe.

Wishes he has the mechanics as Joe
Cut the crap.

Saying Kyle is the problem is the most asinine thing...it really shows people's football knowledge in here. Slow developing plays what are you talking about? His scheme is the reason Jimmy was even looked at as "good" last yr.

Love to see Jimmy go play for the Jags and see how much he "looks like Montana" lol

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Where is the team now? 4 years later. No qb, no offensive line, no cbs, no every down back. Draft misses and free agent misses. Is this a rebuild again? Are we looking at another 4 years of rebuild? That's 8 years of garbage? 1 superbowl loss. I can't understand how people are not angry with the state of the franchise. Shanahan was on the hot seat last year. He was lucky everything went perfect and it bought him a new contract. How many more years is this going to buy him?

So I guess in your fantasy world, a new regime can take a 2-14 team with maybe 2 players worth keeping and can turn it around and make them super bowl winners in 1-2 years max?

Most logical people thought it was going to be at least a 5-6 year rebuild but not you, you gave them what 2 years?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

How can you not place blame on kyle?

He wanted cousins over a number of other qbs that were available including mahomes.
He wanted joe williams
He wanted dante pettis
He keeps pushing for tevin coleman and mckinnon.
He built this soft team.
Jimmy was a different qb when he got here. What shanahan did to him I can't explain.
I can go on and on, but to argue that shanahan has done a fantastic job is just being blind.
He will have three out 4 years with a losing record.
He blew the superbowl by refusing to run. His 4th quarter offense was a joke.
You can't tell me these are not legitimate concerns.

I don't think Kirk is a bad QB and none of us know how he would be with kyle in SF. That was also his first off season as a HC. Still complaining about what it's from 2017 is old and stale.

He wanted Kittle, TW, Bosa and Warner as well.

Losing record with a UDFA and Hoyer as the starters lol. You lack actual depth with your complaints. Again he's taken chicken s**t and turned it into chicken salad. When he's has at the very least a serviceable QB they win.

As far as the SB goes...you need to actually rewatch it. Jimmy called out of running plays, missed open receivers, if not for a chris Jones block they win that game...oh and maybe Mahomes is just really freaking good. He made a play that only like one other QB could have made.

Kyle is NOT the problem. At all.

He wanted bosa? Bosa??? Bosa was a 2nd pick that everyone wanted.

The choice of a qb lands on shanahan and no one else. He has had 4 years to get a qb that he wanted. He had garapollo. If you're arguing that garapollo sucks that's on kyle.

We are 4 years down the road and you're saying he needs to have a serviceable qb? That is such an excuse. It's 9nbkype to have already picked the qb he is going to base his team on.

You can make all the arguments you want but at the end of the day it's all about results. I'm not calling for his firing, but he should be on the hot seat of they don't produce within 2 years. How many more years are you willing to give shanahan? 3? 4? 6?

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
How can you not place blame on kyle?

He wanted cousins over a number of other qbs that were available including mahomes.
He wanted joe williams
He wanted dante pettis
He keeps pushing for tevin coleman and mckinnon.
He built this soft team.
Jimmy was a different qb when he got here. What shanahan did to him I can't explain.
I can go on and on, but to argue that shanahan has done a fantastic job is just being blind.
He will have three out 4 years with a losing record.
He blew the superbowl by refusing to run. His 4th quarter offense was a joke.
You can't tell me these are not legitimate concerns.

Please stop you are embarrassing yourself

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Shanahan has to have everything perfect to look good. He's a good OC, great offensive mind. He isn't a head coach. Look at his record after 4 years. Great coaches make their teams competitive no matter what. I've never seen this shanahan team competitive without garapollo.

Lol Shanahan's 1st year where we were in a dog fight with the Rams the team that made the SB the following year with f**king Hoyer. Then the rest of the season where this rebuilding team he got lost games by like 3 almost every game. You're acting like he took control of a SB winning team, I don't care who you are, belichick with all these injuries wouldn't have this team winning. Speaking of him look at his team now without Brady or talent he's struggling. You're such a hater bruh

Where is the team now? 4 years later. No qb, no offensive line, no cbs, no every down back. Draft misses and free agent misses. Is this a rebuild again? Are we looking at another 4 years of rebuild? That's 8 years of garbage? 1 superbowl loss. I can't understand how people are not angry with the state of the franchise. Shanahan was on the hot seat last year. He was lucky everything went perfect and it bought him a new contract. How many more years is this going to buy him?

I'm done going back and forth with you, you're clearly a hater and don't know s**t. I feel like I'm getting dumb reading your bs

Originally posted by RidiculousJimmyBlame:
LOL, 49er fans in this thread are still indirectly calling Joe Montana an average QB because all of their claims about Jimmy apply to him as well. Yet I'll bet these same 49er fans consider Montana the "GOAT."

Regarding Kyle: While I don't blame him for losing last night, I'm really sick of all the undeserved praise he gets. His offenses never have any rhythm. He gets his QBs killed with the slow developing plays he calls. Skule was getting (sorry) schooled last night, and he never chips Smith. He thinks WRs and TEs are RBs.

Oh, and let's address probably the worst problem of all: Kyle's management of the team. HIs practices are the lightest in the league. He rushed both Jimmy and George back onto the field, and they clearly weren't healthy. They sustained bigger injuries because Kyle has no idea how to evaluate player health and obviously defies the doctor recommendations.

Now, there's obviously no way they're getting rid of him, but I'm going to bash him as long as he's still here and pulling this crap.

Nice username. There aren't many HC's in the league with a better grasp of how to attack defenses. And when it comes to being able to lead a team, the way he handled the 2017/18 seasons and how he kept those locker rooms together despite the losing told me what I needed to know about his ability to earn the players' respect.

If there's a problem with the OL, draft better OL. If there's a problem with the QB, get another QB. Kyle has brought respect to the 49ers HC position that had been lacking for the several years before he came on board.

Originally posted by miked1978:

So I guess in your fantasy world, a new regime can take a 2-14 team with maybe 2 players worth keeping and can turn it around and make them super bowl winners in 1-2 years max?

Most logical people thought it was going to be at least a 5-6 year rebuild but not you, you gave them what 2 years?

I mean upgrade QB (not hard) via the draft take all that freed up money to resign a couple key pieces, upgrade via FA in a couple spots and get healthy.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
nit picking and playing down his roll in the offense is not being objective. but continue to smear

Nitpicking would be there's some small thing isn't not great at lol.

What exactly is he really great at? Awesome he can dump the ball off very quickly.

I'll tell ya what he's not amazing at.

-moving the ball downfield with his arm
-throwing past the 1st down marker (bottom in the league past two yrs)
-reading defenses pre/post snap.
-mechanics overall
-staying healthy
-mobility
-overall arm talent

He's a avg QB who was put in an an amazing situation last yr. he's better than who else they have on their roster.

That's not nitpicking it's the damn truth.

s**t I get called a homer in here all the damn time and stickup for players. Now I can't be objective on a guy lol.

you can create the same list for every QB.

You say your objective but it's all just anger. He's not great, but he's not tripping over his shoe laces out there like you try to make it be.

For someone with all these faults you say..

moving the ball downfield with his arm

-throwing past the 1st down marker (bottom in the league past two yrs)
-reading defenses pre/post snap.
-mechanics overall
-staying healthy
-mobility
-overall arm talent

Can not lead the league in 3rd conversions..

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

He wanted bosa? Bosa??? Bosa was a 2nd pick that everyone wanted.

The choice of a qb lands on shanahan and no one else. He has had 4 years to get a qb that he wanted. He had garapollo. If you're arguing that garapollo sucks that's on kyle.

We are 4 years down the road and you're saying he needs to have a serviceable qb? That is such an excuse. It's 9nbkype to have already picked the qb he is going to base his team on.

You can make all the arguments you want but at the end of the day it's all about results. I'm not calling for his firing, but he should be on the hot seat of they don't produce within 2 years. How many more years are you willing to give shanahan? 3? 4? 6?

They've drafted ONE QB on day 3 and had Jimmy fall in their laps...it was suppose to be Kirk and NO ONE knows how he would have done with kyle here.

You're cherry picking anything to find a way to complain about.

This team went from complete trash to a SB in 3 yrs, now in a Covid football season with $80M worth of players on IR your b***hing about nonsense.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
How can you not place blame on kyle?

He wanted cousins over a number of other qbs that were available including mahomes.
He wanted joe williams
He wanted dante pettis
He keeps pushing for tevin coleman and mckinnon.
He built this soft team.
Jimmy was a different qb when he got here. What shanahan did to him I can't explain.
I can go on and on, but to argue that shanahan has done a fantastic job is just being blind.
He will have three out 4 years with a losing record.
He blew the superbowl by refusing to run. His 4th quarter offense was a joke.
You can't tell me these are not legitimate concerns.

Did you know if you look back at all the drafts for every team in the NFL the last 10 years that on average teams only get about 2-3 serviceable players in each draft? That is the average. A lot of the teams get zero. ZERO. If you strike gold and get a pro bowl caliber player call that draft a win. But yet here you are nitpicking and talking about Joe Williams and Dante Pettis.