49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
LOL. Those bashing Shanahan need to pull their heads out of their asses.

Perhaps they should keep them in? Who knows what might happen if the all pull out at once?

Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:

LOL. Those bashing Shanahan need to pull their heads out of their asses. No one is above criticism, but any hiccups are to be expected and should not be so surprising. Yet people are somehow foolish enough to expect greatness right of the gate or foolish enough to be surprised that that greatness is not happening. This was never going to be a quick turnaround. It could be if everything goes perfectly. But clearly that hasn't happened. Shanahan cannot control if his players are inept or not, those players must perform. We have Hoyer unable to be consistent with his throws and when they are good throws we have receivers who drop those passes. The defense is undermanned, if a healthy Foster is out there last night we are talking about a win today.

Any comparison to McVay in L.A. is inapplicable because McVay walked into a roster that was loaded by comparison to what Shanahan has here. Years of great draft slotting and smart picks with those slots have put the Rams in a great position roster wise that the 49ers couldn't compare to because of bad draft slotting and even worse drafting on the part of the former regime under Baalke. McVay's experience is actually similar to Harbaugh in that they both walked into good roster situations and Shanahan did not. In spite of the roster situation Shanahan is doing great as he learns on the job.

I had no idea so many of our fans were this ignorant till this season. I know there's some trolls and CK fanatics being negative about ShanaLynch but the gameday thread yesterday was overboard.

Why are they ignorant when it comes to football? This is year one of a total rebuild. We have dozens of new players on this team. A few of the vets weren't brought in to win a super bowl they were brought in to help teach the new system to the young guys. Guys like Garcon and Juice will probably be the only ones here past 2018- out of the free agents we beought in on offense.

We were 2-14 last year. The worst team in the NFL. We were less competitive than the Browns in 2016. This isn't the 2016/2017 Rams and it's not the 2011 49ers that Harbaugh inherited. This was a decimated roster, historically bad as far as 49ers teams go. Baalke was incompetent.

Mcvay has a #1 overall pick at QB and has many weapons around him. One of the deepest WR groups in the NFL and they addressed the o-line in the offseason. WE WILL BE DOING THE SAME IN THE 2018 DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY. The Rams spent years building defense and turned to offense in 2016. We're about to do the same in 2018 in a much better draft with tons of draft capital.

100 million in cap space with five picks in the first three rounds. This offense will have at least three new starters in 2018 at QB, WR and offensive line. We'll also be able to address needs on defense via the draft and free agency. This is ShanaLynch's first year with the new team. They need to evaluate needs and address them accordingly in 2018. They were handed one of the worst rosters in the NFL for crying out loud.

If we still suck in 2018 then it would make sense to criticize the HC/GM, especially if we have a bad draft but this is week three of a total rebuild. Anyone talking serious smack right now simply has some sort of issue with the new regime. Like some emotional child that didn't get their way. Screw Harbaugh, Mcvay and Kaepernick. This is a new era and if you don't like it find another team root against. We don't need "fans" like that.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by AlexCat49er:

lol Shanahan has already lost as many regular season games as Harbaugh did his entire first year here. Our last 3 coaches, including Shanahan, have not won as many games as Harbaugh did in his worst season COMBINED. Yet, everyone seems to hate Harbaugh here. Makes no sense.

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Harbaugh walked into a great situation roster wise. Why do people not see that?

Because they're stupid.

KS has some potential.... Nothing wrong with also saying that McVay is very impressive and that the 49ers might have missed on him.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Harbaugh walked into a great situation roster wise. Why do people not see that?

What does it matter if he did come into a good roster? You need talent to win in this league, no matter who your coach is. He had a talented roster and he won a lot of games with it. Lots of coaches have talented rosters and still can't win. We may even have a good roster now and not know it. Nobody thought our roster was all that great when Singletary was the head coach either, but when Harbaugh came suddenly the roster was amazing.

Originally posted by Follower:

KS has some potential.... Nothing wrong with also saying that McVay is very impressive and that the 49ers might have missed on him.

It's three games. Way too early to say who will be better (if either), who made the right decision, and how each coach's career will pan out and how they would do with the opposing team.

I'm still content that we got Kyle. This is a board that was dead-certain we would end up with Cable.

Cue the "but we're 0-3 so we most certainly made a mistake stop being delusional!" crowd

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
lets wait till KS wins 1 game before we start proclaiming him as a coach that can win a Super Bowl...

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Shanny has yet to show he can win a game.

It took Walsh eight games to win his first and it took Belichick five games to win his first in New England.

It took Tom Landry 13 games to win his first and didn't win a single game his first season.

Bill Parcells went 3-12-1 his first season.

Our team is bad but Shanahan is not the problem. Please don't give Jed the idea that he needs to make another coaching change.

I never said KS is the problem. I said our team looks sloppy and some of his decisions I find a bit questionable. I'm very far from judging KS. But the fact is he has not shown he will be a great coach.

Even if we go 0-16, I want him back for next year.

It's ok to be envious to a certain extent, but just don't let it overwhelm you. There is also nothing wrong with acknowledging something special when you see it.... doesn't mean you hate the one you're with.... you just learn to love, and live with the limitations.

Originally posted by AlexCat49er:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Harbaugh walked into a great situation roster wise. Why do people not see that?

What does it matter if he did come into a good roster? You need talent to win in this league, no matter who your coach is. He had a talented roster and he won a lot of games with it. Lots of coaches have talented rosters and still can't win. We may even have a good roster now and not know it. Nobody thought our roster was all that great when Singletary was the head coach either, but when Harbaugh came suddenly the roster was amazing.

Harbaugh picked a poor passer to start at QB and lost our only superbowl with a stacked defense. He inherited a stacked defense and crafted a ball control/run heavy offense (relying on Greg Roman).

It took years of early draft picks to build that roster. Acting like Shanahan and Lynch walked into the same situation is just dumb. It's a dumb thing to say. A box of rocks could offer more football insight compared to that statement. Something like that is 100% disconnected from reality.

In fact, Harbaugh never would've taken the job if the 2010 49ers were the same as the 2016 49ers. He knew exactly what he was walking into. So did ShanaLynch, which is why they got six year contracts. Only a total ______ would think we can turn this around in one offseason.

It's not happening till at least mid 2018 when we get a lot more talent on this team. Till they learn the new systems. What reasonable people are looking for now is improvement from specific players that should be here long term. Mostly young guys on defense. The offense will look totally different in 2018 after the draft/free agency.

Have some god damn patience.

Originally posted by Follower:

It's ok to be envious to a certain extent, but just don't let it overwhelm you. There is also nothing wrong with acknowledging something special when you see it.... doesn't mean you hate the one you're with.... you just learn to love, and live with the limitations.

If McVay turns out to be great than sure.

But it hasn't happened yet.

Originally posted by LeProfessionnel:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by AlexCat49er:
lol Shanahan has already lost as many regular season games as Harbaugh did his entire first year here. Our last 3 coaches, including Shanahan, have not won as many games as Harbaugh did in his worst season COMBINED. Yet, everyone seems to hate Harbaugh here. Makes no sense.

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Harbaugh walked into a great situation roster wise. Why do people not see that?

Because they're stupid.

The facts are that he took a team that was 6-10 the year before and hadn't been to the playoffs in 9 years and took them to 3 straight NFC Championships and a SuperBowl. He went 8-8 the year he was fired during the season. After he left, the team went 5-11 then 2-14 and now 0-3. Results are what matter. The rest is just speculation and opinion.

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

lets wait till KS wins 1 game before we start proclaiming him as a coach that can win a Super Bowl...

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Shanny has yet to show he can win a game.

It took Walsh eight games to win his first and it took Belichick five games to win his first in New England.

It took Tom Landry 13 games to win his first and didn't win a single game his first season.

Bill Parcells went 3-12-1 his first season.

Our team is bad but Shanahan is not the problem. Please don't give Jed the idea that he needs to make another coaching change.

I never said KS is the problem. I said our team looks sloppy and some of his decisions I find a bit questionable. I'm very far from judging KS. But the fact is he has not shown he will be a great coach.

Even if we go 0-16, I want him back for next year.

Scoring 40 points with a scrub QB, poor blocking and 1 good WR is promising.

As far as sloppy play, penalties etc these are things he'll learn as he gets more experience being a HC. There's only so much you can do with such a young roster- one with so many new players.

A lack of talent would handicap the best coaches in the NFL. We need a good 2018 draft/free agency.

If our 2018 draft sucks and we're 2-6 mid season 2018 I'll jump on the "hater" wagon at that point but week 3 in year one of a total rebuild is WAY too early to judge anything or anyone.

Originally posted by BillRing49:

Originally posted by LeProfessionnel:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by AlexCat49er:

lol Shanahan has already lost as many regular season games as Harbaugh did his entire first year here. Our last 3 coaches, including Shanahan, have not won as many games as Harbaugh did in his worst season COMBINED. Yet, everyone seems to hate Harbaugh here. Makes no sense.

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Harbaugh walked into a great situation roster wise. Why do people not see that?

Because they're stupid.

The facts are that he took a team that was 6-10 the year before and hadn't been to the playoffs in 9 years and took them to 3 straight NFC Championships and a SuperBowl. He went 8-8 the year he was fired during the season. After he left, the team went 5-11 then 2-14 and now 0-3. Results are what matter. The rest is just speculation and opinion.

The facts? Our 2010 roster was full of talent. The 2016 roster was not. Denying this is dumb.

Originally posted by Follower:
KS has some potential.... Nothing wrong with also saying that McVay is very impressive and that the 49ers might have missed on him.

Both will be great coaches and have long rivalries IMO.

Its a good thing.

But to be fair to KS, he just gutted the roster to the point of being an expansion team, and has a rookie DC and ragtag team of assistants thrown together pretty much last minute.

McVay took in a pretty talented roster on paper, and also brought in some top flight talent at DC.

He will address the staff deficiencies in the offseason no doubt, and we definitely have one of the least talented rosters in the NFL its pretty clear, so a lot to do left with the roster before we can compete for the division again.

Originally posted by LeProfessionnel:

Originally posted by BillRing49:

Originally posted by LeProfessionnel:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by AlexCat49er:
lol Shanahan has already lost as many regular season games as Harbaugh did his entire first year here. Our last 3 coaches, including Shanahan, have not won as many games as Harbaugh did in his worst season COMBINED. Yet, everyone seems to hate Harbaugh here. Makes no sense.

TrumpWrong.gif

Harbaugh walked into a great situation roster wise. Why do people not see that?

Because they're stupid.

The facts are that he took a team that was 6-10 the year before and hadn't been to the playoffs in 9 years and took them to 3 straight NFC Championships and a SuperBowl. He went 8-8 the year he was fired during the season. After he left, the team went 5-11 then 2-14 and now 0-3. Results are what matter. The rest is just speculation and opinion.

The facts? Our 2010 roster was full of talent. The 2016 roster was not. Denying this is dumb.

Clearly. The 2010 defense and current roster D are night and day. And people are blaming Shanahan lol.