49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

We forgot what dirtbags our previous coaches were to Alex and how Harbaugh had faith in him, respected and built Alex confidence up.

I never did...

Shanny respects his players like Harbaugh did when he was here... "Players coaches".

Faith?, we had 0 QBs. JH needed someone to start the season with

Remember Smith was on a plane to Miami

"Harbaugh has taken the opposite approach of Singletary and Nolan. He has never denigrated Smith in public. Quite to the contrary, he has referred to Smith as an "elite" player and called him worthy of a Pro Bowl selection. Shortly after getting the Niners job, Harbaugh said he wanted Smith to return to the team and was impressed that Smith wanted to return, as well.

"He's a neat guy," Harbaugh told reporters last summer. "I'm really interested in him, in just the character of Alex Smith. He's been maligned by the hometown fans there. And he's really even been thrown under the bus by his own team more than once. And the kind of character of a guy that would want to come back, prove himself with that same football team, that's rare kind of character. (It) probably falls somewhere in the endangered and extinct range. So we can win with that."

Harbaugh, it turns out, was right about that."

Judging by our previous coaches who basically were trying to destroy his career.

Yes faith because the previous coaches obviously lost faith in Alex. At that time it was a surprise to all of us how quickly Harbaugh built him up.

Talks of bust was buzzing. Let's not forget pre- Harbaugh.

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

You're cruising for a timeout, how dare you have any opinion that's negative or even remotely realistic about our team that's currently 0-3 and has very clear problems across the board.

Realistic? Who expects sweeping drastic results not even a quarter of the way through a season from a 2 win team that had 2/3rds its roster redone. We are a s**tty team and that's why we are winless.....you can call them moral victories All you want but in the real NFL this is what a full on rebuild looks like. The fact this team has competed quite well despite the depleted roster and injuries is a good sign thus far.

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
You're cruising for a timeout, how dare you have any opinion that's negative or even remotely realistic about our team that's currently 0-3 and has very clear problems across the board.

Realistic? Who expects sweeping drastic changes not even a quarter of the way through a season from a 2 win team that had 2/3rds its roster redone. We are a s**tty team and that's why we are winless.....you can call them moral victories All you want but in the real NFL this is what a full on rebuild looks like. The fact this team has competed quite well despite the depleted roster and injuries is a good sign thus far.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

That's awesome. Reid is still a better coach

So was Marty Schottenheimer. The first thing people talk about is how he never won a SB and failed in big games.


"It don't mean a thing.....if you ain't got that ring."

And as you said, making my point for me, he's better than Billick too. The point is winning a SB doesn't make you better than coaches that didn't.

Originally posted by evil:

Largely on the backs of the defense and run game. Much like the Ravens did, who also had no FQB and no elite #1 receiver.

Harbaugh appears to be a better coach than Billick but his sample size is also rather small to know how good he truly was.

He's not riding any backs when he's doing this with Kap and no elite #1 http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2017/postseason-qb-drive-stats-and-dvoa

Harbaugh also has his hand in everything. Roman and Fangio have never been anything without him, while great defenses and run games go where Harbaugh goes. He's out there with the defense, he's holding the ball for the kicker, he's THE coach. He has a way of getting through to all players, and getting them to buy in and play with immense confidence. He's just an amazing football coach.

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
You're cruising for a timeout, how dare you have any opinion that's negative or even remotely realistic about our team that's currently 0-3 and has very clear problems across the board.

Realistic? Who expects sweeping drastic changes not even a quarter of the way through a season from a 2 win team that had 2/3rds its roster redone. We are a s**tty team and that's why we are winless.....you can call them moral victories All you want but in the real NFL this is what a full on rebuild looks like. The fact this team has competed quite well despite the depleted roster and injuries is a good sign thus far.

nope i think your serious, like how serious you take other posts in NT

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by evil:

Largely on the backs of the defense and run game. Much like the Ravens did, who also had no FQB and no elite #1 receiver.

Harbaugh appears to be a better coach than Billick but his sample size is also rather small to know how good he truly was.

He's not riding any backs when he's doing this with Kap and no elite #1 http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2017/postseason-qb-drive-stats-and-dvoa

Harbaugh also has his hand in everything. Roman and Fangio have never been anything without him, while great defenses and run games go where Harbaugh goes. He's out there with the defense, he's holding the ball for the kicker, he's THE coach. He has a way of getting through to all players, and getting them to buy in and play with immense confidence. He's just an amazing football coach.

Nice cherry pick, but those stats are from games BEFORE defenses figured Kap out.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by evil:

Largely on the backs of the defense and run game. Much like the Ravens did, who also had no FQB and no elite #1 receiver.

Harbaugh appears to be a better coach than Billick but his sample size is also rather small to know how good he truly was.

He's not riding any backs when he's doing this with Kap and no elite #1 http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2017/postseason-qb-drive-stats-and-dvoa

Harbaugh also has his hand in everything. Roman and Fangio have never been anything without him, while great defenses and run games go where Harbaugh goes. He's out there with the defense, he's holding the ball for the kicker, he's THE coach. He has a way of getting through to all players, and getting them to buy in and play with immense confidence. He's just an amazing football coach.

Fallacy. Jim never touched the defense and Fangio himself confirmed that. He certainly didn't need to spend 5 minutes on the running game. We had T.Ginn and excellent kickers.

Soooo, all he really had to focus on was changing the attitude of the team (no easy task) and develop a competent NFL sustaining passing game with a veteran QB who was well studied and a good leader (Camp Alex).

He's a good coach but like McVay, he walked into a ready-made situation. In fact, McVay could have sustained success like Carrol did in Seattle because of the youth curve.

Jim's route flamed out with burnouts and retirement and his own personality. Someday I hope he comes back to the NFL because I'd like to see him build a team from scratch...to me, the true mark of greatness, and something I hope ShanaLynch can do here!

Originally posted by evil:

Nice cherry pick, but those stats are from games BEFORE defenses figured Kap out.

Lmao not sure if you're aware, but there is no "figure it out". The RO is still used by any QB that can move a little, and Kap avgd 7 yards s carry on an expansion team last year. Asking him not to run as much in 2014 then ending up with Martin bros does not equal figured out.

They knew it was coming in 2013 playoffs. He played the defense that probably studied it more than any team in round 1. He played the #1 and #2 defenses on the road, and the seahawks were very familiar with the RO. Truth is the way Harbaugh used Kap in the playoffs was just hard to stop. If it could be figured out it would have been done well before the 2013 playoffs.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by evil:

Nice cherry pick, but those stats are from games BEFORE defenses figured Kap out.

Lmao not sure if you're aware, but there is no "figure it out". The RO is still used by any QB that can move a little, and Kap avgd 7 yards s carry on an expansion team last year. Asking him not to run as much in 2014 then ending up with Martin bros does not equal figured out.

They knew it was coming in 2013 playoffs. He played the defense that probably studied it more than any team in round 1. He played the #1 and #2 defenses on the road, and the seahawks were very familiar with the RO. Truth is the way Harbaugh used Kap in the playoffs was just hard to stop. If it could be figured out it would have been done well before the 2013 playoffs.

Good post. We lost because seattle had a better gm who brought in players who could produce.

Shanny is the perfect coach for this young team. Both will grow together.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Fallacy. Jim never touched the defense and Fangio himself confirmed that. He certainly didn't need to spend 5 minutes on the running game. We had T.Ginn and excellent kickers.

Soooo, all he really had to focus on was changing the attitude of the team (no easy task) and develop a competent NFL sustaining passing game with a veteran QB who was well studied and a good leader (Camp Alex).

He's a good coach but like McVay, he walked into a ready-made situation. In fact, McVay could have sustained success like Carrol did in Seattle because of the youth curve.

Jim's route flamed out with burnouts and retirement and his own personality. Someday I hope he comes back to the NFL because I'd like to see him build a team from scratch...to me, the true mark of greatness, and something I hope ShanaLynch can do here!

I'm not saying he directed the defense, I mean he's just out there with them, with the team. He was in the meetings, he would eat with them, hang out with them in the locker room like a player. He's the one that gets the team to buy in. It's his personality that all units of his teams take on everywhere he goes. Why are we still trying to make excuses for Baalke, he flat out messed up.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Fallacy. Jim never touched the defense and Fangio himself confirmed that. He certainly didn't need to spend 5 minutes on the running game. We had T.Ginn and excellent kickers.

Soooo, all he really had to focus on was changing the attitude of the team (no easy task) and develop a competent NFL sustaining passing game with a veteran QB who was well studied and a good leader (Camp Alex).

He's a good coach but like McVay, he walked into a ready-made situation. In fact, McVay could have sustained success like Carrol did in Seattle because of the youth curve.

Jim's route flamed out with burnouts and retirement and his own personality. Someday I hope he comes back to the NFL because I'd like to see him build a team from scratch...to me, the true mark of greatness, and something I hope ShanaLynch can do here!

I'm not saying he directed the defense, I mean he's just out there with them, with the team. He was in the meetings, he would eat with them, hang out with them in the locker room like a player. He's the one that gets the team to buy in. It's his personality that all units of his teams take on everywhere he goes. Why are we still trying to make excuses for Baalke, he flat out messed up.

I see...sure. He's excellent at building that us-against-the-world with everyone and his mentality probably meshed with the defensive players a lot. Yeah, I was just noting that Fangio said he appreciates that Jim completely left him alone and let him run the show. With Fangio, I'd do the same. Nobody is talking about the B-word.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Fallacy. Jim never touched the defense and Fangio himself confirmed that. He certainly didn't need to spend 5 minutes on the running game. We had T.Ginn and excellent kickers.

Soooo, all he really had to focus on was changing the attitude of the team (no easy task) and develop a competent NFL sustaining passing game with a veteran QB who was well studied and a good leader (Camp Alex).

He's a good coach but like McVay, he walked into a ready-made situation. In fact, McVay could have sustained success like Carrol did in Seattle because of the youth curve.

Jim's route flamed out with burnouts and retirement and his own personality. Someday I hope he comes back to the NFL because I'd like to see him build a team from scratch...to me, the true mark of greatness, and something I hope ShanaLynch can do here!

I'm not saying he directed the defense, I mean he's just out there with them, with the team. He was in the meetings, he would eat with them, hang out with them in the locker room like a player. He's the one that gets the team to buy in. It's his personality that all units of his teams take on everywhere he goes. Why are we still trying to make excuses for Baalke, he flat out messed up.

+1

Like the flaming out wasn't Baalke years of flops...

I bet Shanny or Lynch would give baalke a long stare if they ever crossed paths.😒 Lol

Baalke been flamed out since 2012

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

+1

Like the flaming out wasn't Baalke years of flops...

I bet Shanny or Lynch would give baalke a long stare if they ever crossed paths.😒 Lol

Baalke been flamed out since 2012

The only reason i see for diminishing Harbaugh is to protect Baalke, which is just strange.