49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Those are play designs, not the predominant offense Kaepernick had initial success under.

We used a lot of different formations and play designs under Harbaugh. We didn't make it predominant until the playoffs, so that wasn't why he had initial success.

There were a certain few games it was "predominant". During the 2012 playoffs I would say it was, but outside of that it wasn't full on RO all the time. It was about as "predominant" as Sea, KC, Car, and Buff currently. The RO is still here amongst mobile QBs, but cognitive dissonance makes "old school" guy's literally tell themselves it's not.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Those are play designs, not the predominant offense Kaepernick had initial success under.

We used a lot of different formations and play designs under Harbaugh. We didn't make it predominant until the playoffs, so that wasn't why he had initial success.

There were a certain few games it was "predominant". During the 2012 playoffs I would say it was, but outside of that it wasn't full on RO all the time. It was about as "predominant" as Sea, KC, Car, and Buff currently. The RO is still here amongst mobile QBs, but cognitive dissonance makes "old school" guy's literally tell themselves it's not.

It doesn't matter what designs you grab from HaRomans hodge podge playbook...the context from which Kaepernick could operate it was one-read-then-run. At best, he was a very very slow progression reader unlike the players you highlighted adove who all worked hard on their pocket craft. The RO today is just a wrinkle but by a read option design or scramble, Kaepernick was ultra successful with his legs and that was our offense (read-run) until defenses caught up to it.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Yup, defenses pretty much forced him to pass

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Baalke screwed the pooch so bad on personnel I don't know who to blame him or Kap. We had something there with Crabtree, Davis and Walker. You got mismatches vs the run or pass.

Baalke's answer. Let Walker walk for a blocking tight end then pair then replace Crabs with an old receiver. Good qb's overcome but Kap deserved better.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
If you think Kap was responsible for our downfall then I don't know what to tell you. To me, Kap was as much of a victim as the rest of us.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Baalke screwed the pooch so bad on personnel I don't know who to blame him or Kap. We had something there with Crabtree, Davis and Walker. You got mismatches vs the run or pass.

Baalke's answer. Let Walker walk for a blocking tight end then pair then replace Crabs with an old receiver. Good qb's overcome but Kap deserved better.

If you think Kap was responsible for our downfall then I don't know what to tell you. To me, Kap was as much of a victim as the rest of us.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Yup, defenses pretty much forced him to pass

But anyway, Kyle kicks ass and seems big on evolving, adjusting and adapting...he seems to have learned a lot from that first game (4th downs). We seem way more balanced esp. adapting to our personnel on the inside zone runs and activating Bolden Jr. (5th right now) and with Tomlinson. He seems to be learning more and more about the current offensive personnel. Saleh might have the biggest challenge right now with his non traditional DL esp. with Rueben out .

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Great discussion going on guys!


Its game day tomorrow!

Originally posted by frozen49er:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Great discussion going on guys!


Its game day tomorrow!

You must have missed the memo crabs.

All threads must be infected with talk to tb, kap or views about elected leaders.

Try and keep up man.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Yup, defenses pretty much forced him to pass

But anyway, Kyle kicks ass and seems big on evolving, adjusting and adapting...he seems to have learned a lot from that first game (4th downs). We seem way more balanced esp. adapting to our personnel on the inside zone runs and activating Bolden Jr. (5th right now) and with Tomlinson. He seems to be learning more and more about the current offensive personnel. Saleh might have the biggest challenge right now with his non traditional DL esp. with Rueben out .

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Yup, defenses pretty much forced him to pass

But anyway, Kyle kicks ass and seems big on evolving, adjusting and adapting...he seems to have learned a lot from that first game (4th downs). We seem way more balanced esp. adapting to our personnel on the inside zone runs and activating Bolden Jr. (5th right now) and with Tomlinson. He seems to be learning more and more about the current offensive personnel. Saleh might have the biggest challenge right now with his non traditional DL esp. with Rueben out .

I have to agree!

Originally posted by tjd808185:
Baalke screwed the pooch so bad on personnel I don't know who to blame him or Kap. We had something there with Crabtree, Davis and Walker. You got mismatches vs the run or pass.

Baalke's answer. Let Walker walk for a blocking tight end then pair then replace Crabs with an old receiver. Good qb's overcome but Kap deserved better.