49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He needs to learn how to win the big game. Especially with a lead. Like Mcvay can.

He's won plenty of big games and with a limited QB too. We'll see If he can win the big one though. ( I believe he can )

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by captveg:
We made that blockbuster trade last offseason. It was for 2022 starting QB Trey Lance.

I was referring to an experienced veteran. Rams have made a few big moves since Mcvay became head coach and It resulted In them winning the super bowl.

The MO is for Shanalynch to make a move for a vet as well. It's how they got Ford, Tomlinson and Williams, and - as you pointed out - Sanders. Some of those worked and some of those didn't (long term). This has not been a front office afraid to make moves, but only 31/32 teams every season make the "wrong" moves because they didn't win the Super Bowl. The Bengals may have got to the SB, but since they lost it, all the moves they made this year added up to being the "wrong" moves to win the SB.

Most likely vet moves this offseason via trade/free agency: CB, OL, backup QB

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He needs to learn how to win the big game. Especially with a lead. Like Mcvay can.

McVay couldn't win the big game either... until he did. This is how every championship coach has ever been.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
OH THAT IS RICH ...NY85 WORRIED ABOUT JIMMY TAKING A SLAP IN THE FACE.....OMG.....IM ABSOLUTELY SPEECHLESS....

Anyway do you I think he'll be a backup for long? I see the odds pretty good that Trey will either get smashed or wind up playing sub 500 football. Dot-dot. If not Jimmy gets to rehab his calf shoulder and thumb for a year before jumping back in. Might not be a bad gig...

And Brodie thinking his beautiful QB is gonna take a massive pay cut to be the backup That's rich.

Jimmy can start on a handful of teams and will want an extension not a pay cut, he's not staying here and why would he? I see Trey being a rookie QB that was drafted to play...he will have his ups and downs and will develop and improve as the season goes. I see Kyle putting Lance in a good position to help this team win games, he's not gonna ask his QB to throw the ball 40+ times a game (same as Jimmy) it will be a run and play great defense team. Lance will also give this team something it hasn't had in a while and that the ability to use all three levels of the field and play 11 on 11 football.

SF did not get to this situation with the intention of not trading Jimmy...they want their compensation.

I give Jimmy being the backup QB in SF in 2022 a 1% chance of happening. NOW who do you really think they bring in as a backup?

II don't think any of the guys that you're mentioning Taylor Dalton Etc I really going to work in the game system shanny will put them in. None of them can make Jimmy's throws. They're more dink-and-dunk types throwing to the flat and screens and so on. So none of those guys are going to help us win if they have to start games. Do you agree? Those are backups that are signed on the roster to be backups with the Assumption they will never play. I'm raising the possibility that there's a good chance the starter in week 1 won't be the starter in week 8. Do you agree? And that situation I think Jimmy is the best person I can't think of to fill in a bridge role and give us a chance to win with the game plan everybody's used to.

I don't see jimmy getting traded or signed elsewhere. I think we cut him and new salary will be agreed to by aug 21.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
II don't think any of the guys that you're mentioning Taylor Dalton Etc I really going to work in the game system shanny will put them in. None of them can make Jimmy's throws. They're more dink-and-dunk types throwing to the flat and screens and so on. So none of those guys are going to help us win if they have to start games. Do you agree? Those are backups that are signed on the roster to be backups with the Assumption they will never play. I'm raising the possibility that there's a good chance the starter in week 1 won't be the starter in week 8. Do you agree? And that situation I think Jimmy is the best person I can't think of to fill in a bridge role and give us a chance to win with the game plan everybody's used to.

I don't see jimmy getting traded or signed elsewhere. I think we cut him and new salary will be agreed to by aug 21.

You can't pay a backup $20m+. It just isn't done.

So you have to roll with Lance and just cross your fingers that he holds up. Just like KC does with Mahomes, and Buffalo does with Allen, etc. etc. Backups winning the SB is super rare.

That's simply the realities of football. Holding onto Jimmy G just so he can ride the bench is never gonna happen, just like it was never a realistic scenario for Alex Smith in 2013. It just does not happen.

Originally posted by captveg:
McVay couldn't win the big game either... until he did. This is how every championship coach has ever been.

Yup. Same with Andy Reid too.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
II don't think any of the guys that you're mentioning Taylor Dalton Etc I really going to work in the game system shanny will put them in. None of them can make Jimmy's throws. They're more dink-and-dunk types throwing to the flat and screens and so on. So none of those guys are going to help us win if they have to start games. Do you agree? Those are backups that are signed on the roster to be backups with the Assumption they will never play. I'm raising the possibility that there's a good chance the starter in week 1 won't be the starter in week 8. Do you agree? And that situation I think Jimmy is the best person I can't think of to fill in a bridge role and give us a chance to win with the game plan everybody's used to.

I don't see jimmy getting traded or signed elsewhere. I think we cut him and new salary will be agreed to by aug 21.

LOL what? Jimmy isn't dink and dunk okay man.

A backup is a backup...if your starter get's hurt it's really hard to win anything meaningful regardless.

Why won't Jimmy get moved? You're damn near his #1 fan and you think the league doesn't like him?

Shows over dude.

SF isn't benching Lance good bad or whatever, he's gonna have to play through his ups and downs like any rookie.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
II don't think any of the guys that you're mentioning Taylor Dalton Etc I really going to work in the game system shanny will put them in. None of them can make Jimmy's throws. They're more dink-and-dunk types throwing to the flat and screens and so on. So none of those guys are going to help us win if they have to start games. Do you agree? Those are backups that are signed on the roster to be backups with the Assumption they will never play. I'm raising the possibility that there's a good chance the starter in week 1 won't be the starter in week 8. Do you agree? And that situation I think Jimmy is the best person I can't think of to fill in a bridge role and give us a chance to win with the game plan everybody's used to.

I don't see jimmy getting traded or signed elsewhere. I think we cut him and new salary will be agreed to by aug 21.

Pretty much any team is screwed if their starter goes down for an extended period of time. The backup is there to play a quarter, a game, a few games at most. Beyond that, short of an improbable Foles like hot streak, your season is over.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
LOL what? Jimmy isn't dink and dunk okay man.

A backup is a backup...if your starter get's hurt it's really hard to win anything meaningful regardless.

Why won't Jimmy get moved? You're damn near his #1 fan and you think the league doesn't like him?

Shows over dude.

SF isn't benching Lance good bad or whatever, he's gonna have to play through his ups and downs like any rookie.

Lex luthor read my post again. I know jimmy aint dink and dunk.

Lance aint a rookie. Next year hes rookie minus 1.

This year he was rookie minus 2.

Can you comprehend? We have to stall again.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by stefano89:
guys I really think TB12 is a possibility for us. He wants to be a niner. He's the ultimate competitor, in a month or two he's gonna want to play. We can get him. Wel have to beef up our OL big time but we can do that. We need to either go all in on 2022 with TB12 or build back resources in 2022 an go all in on 2023 with TL5 after he's gotten a year of starting experience.

Brady isn't coming to SF.

They are trading Jimmy G. Then they will sign/trade for a vet QB to be Lance's backup, someone like Dalton/Foles/Taylor who can run the offense and perhaps win some games if Lance is injured and unavailable.

never say never.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He needs to learn how to win the big game. Especially with a lead. Like Mcvay can.

McVay couldn't win the big game either... until he did. This is how every championship coach has ever been.

Truth!

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Only that's simply not true....Kittle had 70 pass blocking snaps this whole season. He ran plenty of routes and if you go watch the film from that last game was open more than enough for him to make a bigger impact. Our QB for whatever reason simply didn't pull the trigger.

If that's true, then I stand corrected.

Yeah man he ran plenty of routes....thing is SF was 29th in passing attempts this yr. He had 94 targets in 14 games.

Do delayed release routes count as pass routes? I'd bet they do.

Originally posted by captveg:
You can't pay a backup $20m+. It just isn't done.

So you have to roll with Lance and just cross your fingers that he holds up. Just like KC does with Mahomes, and Buffalo does with Allen, etc. etc. Backups winning the SB is super rare.

That's simply the realities of football. Holding onto Jimmy G just so he can ride the bench is never gonna happen, just like it was never a realistic scenario for Alex Smith in 2013. It just does not happen.

Point one: agree.
Point two: we dont 'have to' do anything. Except win.
Point three: this wont be a conventional starter/backup situation.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
II don't think any of the guys that you're mentioning Taylor Dalton Etc I really going to work in the game system shanny will put them in. None of them can make Jimmy's throws. They're more dink-and-dunk types throwing to the flat and screens and so on. So none of those guys are going to help us win if they have to start games. Do you agree? Those are backups that are signed on the roster to be backups with the Assumption they will never play. I'm raising the possibility that there's a good chance the starter in week 1 won't be the starter in week 8. Do you agree? And that situation I think Jimmy is the best person I can't think of to fill in a bridge role and give us a chance to win with the game plan everybody's used to.

I don't see jimmy getting traded or signed elsewhere. I think we cut him and new salary will be agreed to by aug 21.

The entire league believes JG will be traded and JG believes he will be traded. A deal will be had as there are teams that have the need and this is a year with a weak draft class at QB and FA won't offer much if anything.

If we cut JG, someone will offer him more than the backup deal we can offer.

There are only 2 choices, work with him and get a deal done to get something for him. Or 2, cut him and lose him for nothing. He isn't staying as a backup with his price tag.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Lex luthor read my post again. I know jimmy aint dink and dunk.

Lance aint a rookie. Next year hes rookie minus 1.

This year he was rookie minus 2.

Can you comprehend? We have to stall again.

I'm saying he dink and dunk and there's a ton of data backing that up.

Lance is a rookie as far as playing football goes. Cool he was a scout QB for a yr that's not meaningful football.

Comprehend what? You don't think Jimmy will get traded because what? He's not good enough for any team in the market? You're the one that been all about how great Jimmy is in here for how long? Now he's not? Why can't he be a bridge QB for some other team? If he's cut why can't he sign with another team? Man you really want to do Jimmy dirty lol.