Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by genus49:
All of this. Kudos to the man on winning a ring but this "he's got a better resume so he's automatically better" s**t doesn't fly with me.
I will give him credit, the dude is certainly coaching and team building like a rabid dog but hearing that he may be thinking of retiring certainly adds logic to it. If that was his plan then why worry about building a team for the long haul. Yeah cash in all your draft picks to try to win it all now and let some other chump deal with the fallout when your stars leave.
But people still love to overlook that one of the major reasons McVay has won as much as he has is because he took over a much better team that had one of the best players to ever play in Aaron Donald.
he didn't have to do a full rebuild of a trash roster like Shanahan had to do here. He got a long time DC and former HC to come in and assist him on defense to the point where he almost didn't have to worry about the defense.
The situations are not comparable. The fact that Shanahan with Garopplo in the two seasons where he was actually healthy most of the year wind up in the SB and NFC Championship games and had a 10 point lead in the 4th quarter of both says he's a damn good coach.
Can anyone remind me what the great McVay did in his first trip to the SB with his #2 offense?
Yeah good for him sweet, they won....Doug Peterson won a SB before McVay and no one is saying he's better than him or Shanny lol.
their GM/owner/HC continue to go all in and it paid off for once. I agree if he doesn't plan on being there for the long haul might as well do whatever to win now and get out. Let some other HC & GM deal with the headache in a couple yrs...my thought on it is Stafford will get an extension and when he hangs it up so will McVay.
The only people that want to tout off that McVay is far superior to Kyle are the people that have always hated on Kyle, their straw man debates are funny and painfully obvious. not really worth debating with them anymore. I'm proud to have him as our HC and I think a trip to the SB and NFCC the 2 of the past 3 yrs is damn good. Not many HCs can say they did that the past couple seasons.
I think the fact that they were once peers and Shanahan was essentially his boss adds fuel to this fire.
There's two ways I look at what happened in the NFCCG and then the SB. I was embarrassed because of the 6 wins in a row thing. All the trash some of us were talking like we were guaranteed that 7th win. I was NOT one of them. As Shanahan stated in some press conference "It's tough to beat those guys one time, let alone 6." We could have owned LA in their stadium and then won the SB in their stadium. It was truly an opportunity missed. And I am SAD because of it. The Padawan beat the Master when it mattered the most. I felt shame for Shanahan. Rams, McVay, Donald, etc all got the last laugh.
Then I remember how we even got to the NFCCG. The week 18 LA game. We freakin beat Dallas and GB in their home courts respectively. I mean talk about two of our biggest rivals and what comes with all that. We took LA to the limit and honestly should have won. The Niners had an extremely respectable season that even LA fans cannot dispute. I THINK that LA fans were certainly screaming "F the Niners" after they won, but deep down they respect the hell out of them.
As another poster stated, LA won the battle this year, but not the war. If Lance is just "good," he will thrive in this offense and we will be better next year. I still think Shanahan will end with more rings than McVay and will be a HC for another 30 years or so. It sucks McVay got his first. We'll see what kind of man Shanahan is next season.
